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2018-19 Nexus Viper Class C

2CAJUNS
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Does anyone have one and what are your impressions, good or bad? Would appreciate your comments. Thanks
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ron_dittmer
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rockhillmanor wrote:
Currently have the 450 albeit on a 31 ft. Handling is much better. AND I tow a toad with power to spare climbing grades AND I get 12 mpg.
I can understand better handling with an improved wheelbase to over-all length ratio. But 12 mpg? Really?

I suppose I could say that our ScannGauge-II says we get near 14 mpg when conditions are ideal. But my mpg numbers stated a few replies up, are trip averaging from the time we leave home, to the time we return home. I consider combined city, mountain, canyon, highway, park sightseeing, everything experienced throughout our trips from the Chicago area out to our national parks and back home.

And it seems that Murphy always has his way with us providing a significant headwind when heading west to our destinations, and also east when it's time to get back home.

rockhillmanor
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Desert Captain wrote:
Rock hill manor, Methinks you are confused about the E-350/450’s. The 350 has a superior ride as in smoother vs the stiff ride of the 450. It also has more power as the engine/trans are the same but the 450 is packing an addition 2,000 pounds everywhere it goes.

The 450 gets worse mileage with its 4:56 rear end vs the 350’s 4:10. The 450 is a great chassis but on any Class C 25’ or under it is overkill at the expense of comfort and economy. If you are going to tow heavy they are worth a look but have less available power due to the extra weight.....


No, sorry I am not confused!
I've had both. Currently have the 450 albeit on a 31 ft. Handling is much better. AND I tow a toad with power to spare climbing grades AND I get 12 mpg.

We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.

irishtom29
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Several years ago at the Tampa show we looked at a large Viper and the payload was low, under 1000 pounds. Something to consider.

Dusty_R
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We had a 2002 24' Itasca E-350. Now a 2015 27' Itasca E-450, and don't see/feel much difference.

Dusty

ron_dittmer
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Desert Captain wrote:
Rock hill manor, Methinks you are confused about the E-350/450’s. The 350 has a superior ride as in smoother vs the stiff ride of the 450. It also has more power as the engine/trans are the same but the 450 is packing an addition 2,000 pounds everywhere it goes.

The 450 gets worse mileage with its 4:56 rear end vs the 350’s 4:10. The 450 is a great chassis but on any Class C 25’ or under it is overkill at the expense of comfort and economy. If you are going to tow heavy they are worth a look but have less available power due to the extra weight.

Also as noted E-350’s often come with the 55 gallon fuel tank. Mine does and after 5+ years and 52k+ miles I could not be more pleased with the ride and performance of my E-350.
Desert Captain said it very well.

You want the RV manufacture to select the appropriate chassis for the application. Have you ever rented a U-Haul truck? When empty, it rides horribly. When full, the ride smooths out. It's kind-of like that. You want to match the chassis to the load it will carry. When all loaded up for a good long trip, you want the over-all weight to be close to the chassis limit. Significant margin will yield a rougher ride. And as we all know, motor homes stay together better with a smoother ride. If using an E450 chassis on a smaller & lighter RV model, it will shake and bang down the road, rather than offer a smooth ride.

And like Desert Captain said, there is also a change in fuel economy. The E350 4.1 axle ratio yields roughly a 10% improvement in fuel economy. The reduced weight of a shorter motor home improves fuel economy further.

Our 2007 E350 motor home HERE is less than 24 feet long, weighs near it's capacity of 11,500 pounds when on trips considering 2 adults, 55 gallons of gas, 10 gallons of propane, and 42 gallons of fresh water, and our rig is very aerodynamic. We average 10.5 MPG when not towing, and 9.2 when towing our Jeep Liberty. The quality of ride is quite nice.

Desert_Captain
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Rock hill manor, Methinks you are confused about the E-350/450’s. The 350 has a superior ride as in smoother vs the stiff ride of the 450. It also has more power as the engine/trans are the same but the 450 is packing an addition 2,000 pounds everywhere it goes.

The 450 gets worse mileage with its 4:56 rear end vs the 350’s 4:10. The 450 is a great chassis but on any Class C 25’ or under it is overkill at the expense of comfort and economy. If you are going to tow heavy they are worth a look but have less available power due to the extra weight.

Also as noted E-350’s often come with the 55 gallon fuel tank. Mine does and after 5+ years and 52k+ miles I could not be more pleased with the ride and performance of my
E-350.

:C

ron_dittmer
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THIS VIDEO compares a Phoenix Cruiser 2351 to a 2015 brand X. The exterior and interior features of the brand X model seems to be a Viper model with a floorplan no longer offered.

Much of the criticism is very trivial to me, but it does make some points worth noting.

jasonleigh
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I have a 2013 Viper 29V

Here's the short list:

Steel cage/ instead of aluminum or wood
Azdel in the walls and ceiling
lower profile than a standard C
No over cab bunk/wind trap
29 ft
3 slides
Walk around queen
plenty of storage
Plenty of extra cargo carry capacity
One piece front and rear cap
one piece shower

Almost all the appliances are the same in the newer units

My personal preferences of why I like this model:
No residential refrigerator- tons of weight, big inverter, and extra batteries that won't last overnight.
Mine does not have high -maintenance leveling system. A box of Lynx levelers is all I use. Those are 400+ plus
NO stove, although they do have some models w/a stove
Super easy to winterize
E450 chassis is rock solid w v10
30 FT and handles my Jeep toad very well
Roomy shower, but not so roomy bathroom
plenty of storage w pass thru areas (This was one reason I chose it over the Phoenix cruiser- another very nice class b+)

Downsides- I wish the furniture (couch and dinette) was a bit higher end
28 gal black and grey tanks

Hope this helps. There is a Nexus owners forum on Facebook if you are interested in more

IAMICHABOD
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rockhillmanor wrote:

Where it allstops no one knows!

Is it a Class B, Class B+, or just a Class C without a cab over?!! :B


My Vote is a C-,Class C without the cabover bed.......:S
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

rockhillmanor
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captcha strikes again. Wouldn't let me put link in my above post so here it is.
https://www.nexusrv.com/check-our-rv-coach-motorhome-dealership-motorhomes--viper

IMHO, JMHO I think they are overpriced and description inaccurate as the new Class C's cabover are now built without windows and are designed to be more aerodynamic. So that's a moot point and not sure what the comment about the Viper having running boards and C's don't? Don't even know what that means.

E350 chassis is a deal breaker for me on any of them. Once you've driven aand experienced the ride/handling on a E450 Super Duty with a V-10, you will never go back. :C

We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.

rockhillmanor
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2CAJUNS wrote:
2018-19 Nexus Viper Class CDoes anyone have one and what are your impressions, good or bad? Would appreciate your comments. Thanks


Per their website the Viper is classified as a Class B+

""Viper
Class B+ Motorhome

Viper Class B plus gas motorhomes by NeXus RV are very similar to Class C motor homes except they are built without the overhead sleeping area and they are aerodynamic as they are built with pre-molded front cap wing and runningboards....""

Where it allstops no one knows!

Is it a Class B, Class B+, or just a Class C without a cab over?!! :B

We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.

ron_dittmer
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Explorer II
bobndot wrote:
I would look at a 450 with 55 gals of fuel opposed to 350 with 40 gals. especially with a v-10 gasser. Good engine but thirsty, especially coupled with 4.10 or 4.56 gears.
The E350 RV-prep'd chassis also has a 55 gallon fuel tank.

Having a lot of gas is great, not just for driving, but also for running the generator.

If buying a brand new rig like the OP is considering, I agree with your other comments. Don't worry about quality so much. Especially if you like to make vehicles changes often. But if hanging on to it for many years, or buying an older used rig, then "quality" will become a factor.

bobndot
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All brands can have issues. If you spend thousands more for a certain brand of rv and have issues with it, then you will have a lot less money while beating yourself up.
A good rv mechanic can make any rv work, find a good mechanic and buy whatever floorplan will work for you to be comfortable.

The Nexus Viper might be a class B+ with no cabover bed.
If you have the room to park a longer floorplan when you store it, I would look at a 450 with 55 gals of fuel opposed to 350 with 40 gals. especially with a v-10 gasser. Good engine but thirsty, especially coupled with 4.10 or 4.56 gears.