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Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

fulltimin
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Started to look into some water damage in the kitchen of our 83 Pace Arrow. The more I looked, the more I found. I have some pics of the damage so far. Anyone interested in following a rebuild thread?
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fulltimin
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I needed something to hold up the shower floor, so I figured left over wood should work just fine. It turns out, putting 2 of them together is exactly the height that I need for said floor.

Yes, I left a "hole" in the one corner so I can run a water line through there to the kitchen side. That should work just fine.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Hope your weekend is going well. Everybody out spending money on things we don't need..... Ah, yea, no.

Anyhow, anyone remember this?







Yea, that's the pattern I used for the the sides of the sink. I took that apart so I could use the wood.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Well, I decided to change my plans just a bit, in the bathroom. After considering my options, I went back to an earlier design where the toilet is at the rear, and the shower area will be next to the kitchen area.

Biggest reason is the height of the ceiling. It is higher towards the front than it is at the back, since the roof is tapered towards the rear a few inches.

That allows me to raise the shower floor a little more towards the front.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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sundancer268 wrote:
I love the off beat thoughts and experiments, and hope they continue to get posted.




I am sure there will be a couple more in the future, hopefully useful for someone.

Thanks.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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LouLawrence wrote:
Wow you do know how to get off track! Glue as a long term waterproof finish material? Why do you insist on reinventing the wheel at every turn? Do you have any actual plans to ever complete this project or are you just posting random thoughts to drag this out as long as possible?




Just looking at options for the future. I figured wood and glue kind of go together, since I have used a bunch of both so far in this project.

I wish I was much farther along than I am. No sense quitting now.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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navegator wrote:
Remember that some glues brake down with long exposure to water or moisture, that is the difference between regular plywood and marine plywood.

If you are thinking of using it for the sink, "do not!" In the long run you will have a real mess, stick to tne epoxy and the fiberglass, that sink will be ausome and a work of aft.

navegator




Definitely not using that on the sink. I already have what I think will be enough Epoxy for that job. I do need to add a curve at the bottom of the sides of the sink, to make cleaning easier before adding the Epoxy.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

sundancer268
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I love the off beat thoughts and experiments, and hope they continue to get posted.
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LouLawrence
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Wow you do know how to get off track! Glue as a long term waterproof finish material? Why do you insist on reinventing the wheel at every turn? Do you have any actual plans to ever complete this project or are you just posting random thoughts to drag this out as long as possible?

navegator
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Explorer
Remember that some glues brake down with long exposure to water or moisture, that is the difference between regular plywood and marine plywood.

If you are thinking of using it for the sink, "do not!" In the long run you will have a real mess, stick to tne epoxy and the fiberglass, that sink will be ausome and a work of aft.

navegator

fulltimin
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Nomad
After that dried, I added a second coat over the first one, and then coated most of the rest of the cedar.

In this pic, the area in between the arrows has 2 coats, and the rest has only one.

Like I said, I was surprised how much the grain came through.

Why was I looking at this? A gallon of glue is less than $30.







Not sure I will end up using this, but it might be an option.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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As you know, if you have followed this thread for a while, I am an inquisitive person. I like to examine some things for myself and make my own decision.

Such was the case, with wood and glue. No, not to join 2 pieces of wood together. I was curious as to how it would work to cover a piece of wood to make it water proof.

So, I took a piece of cedar, and coated part of it with the Titebond 3 that I have just to seed how it would darken the wood.

Titebond doesn't dry fully clear, so I was expecting it to really cover the grain of the wood.

Well, it did darken it a little, but not nearly as much as I thought it would.

The center section here, is where the glue was applied. The rest of the wood has no finish on it at all.



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If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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With that properly lined up, I was able to glue and nail the walnut to the face. Yay!

I also cleaned this area out, and started playing with a water tank to see where I want to locate it.

In the background, with the blue arrow, I also started a platform for the shower floor.

It's starting to feel better, more like I am actually getting something done. Wahoo!



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Here is what happened. The plywood wasn't quite flush as the space shows here.







When I to put the walnut up here, this is what happened. It would not stay flush top or bottom. Oops.







So, I removed the screws holding the plywood up, and re-aligned the plywood and the 2x3 and screwed it fast again.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Here is what I screwed up the other night.

When I put the plywood frame in place I didn't get it correctly lined up here.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.