Larry37 wrote:
Thanks all for the advise. I have a few shops to call on Monday.
In response to some of the discussion on this post-
Yes I know about road force balancing that's what the selling dealer keeps wanting to do over and over. And I've taken to 2 shops. I ordered a tire and rim package that was mounted and balanced and supposed to be bolt on ready but not so as it turns out
You can balance a square tire but if it's not round it won't roll smooth.
I'm sure they are centered on hubs.
I have 2 that are out round I checked them myself.
Tire truing may or may not void warranty but after you drive 20 miles on them no one would ever be able to tell. At this point the selling dealer and manufacturer isn't to interested in fixing and who's to say I won't get 2 more out of round. I'm tire of sitting in a tire shop and still not right when I'm working 70+hrs week
19.5 and larger tires are notorious for being out of round due to the thicker tread.
I live in Florida and there are a number of shops that still true tires around me. It used to be very popular with rv'ers and semi's. Unfortunately I am in Indiana working and haven't been able to locate anyone to true around here. We were looking forward to taking the long way home after we finish in late January but may have just live with it and take the short route.
Thanks
Larry,
Boy you said a mouthful when you stated the part about balancing a "square" tire but, it still won't roll smooth. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! An Egg is an EGG, PERIOD! It's really too bad that there's no truing service in your area. Yep, they're still around but, apparently not in the abundance they used to be. So, not sure what to tell you at this point. No one is happy on eggs. Like I stated in my earlier post to you. We picked up our coach in Sparks NV and drove about 5 miles on the very smooth, California 395 in that area and I could really feel some issues with the front tires.
So, we pulled off at Carson City, into a Walmart parking lot. Since the tires on the coach were less than a year old, and were purchased from a Les Schwab dealer, I thought I'd look up a Les Schwab dealer in the area. Well, they were only about 3 blocks from our location at the time. So, of to them we went.
An hour and half later, it was all better. I was not going to drive, almost 700 miles with eggs for front tires. And yes, they did have tons of weights. One could have "Road force balanced" them for the rest of their life and still, come out with an egg. So, anyway, hope you get them trued soon. Most shops that really know about truing will tell you that you will get increased mileage AFTER it's done. That's due to a perfectly round tire that's rolling as smooth as possible down the road with no imperfections. Good luck.
Scott
Tire "shaving" or "truing" has been done since the 70s and is still being done today. The OP apparently knows what he's asking for and doing. While out of round tires are not as prevalent today as they have been in the past, THEY STILL EXIST! If one is smart enough to determine that tire is out of round and doesn't try fifty zillion ways of balancing because he KNOWS the tire is out of round, then, there's primarily only two choices.
One is, if the tire is under some form of warranty, then you do what you can to get it replaced. Whether or not the selling company complies is a whole 'nother subject. Most will.
Your second choice is, GET IT TRUED!!! I've had many tires trued. Truck tires, car tires, and motorhome tires. The last time I talked with Discount tire on the subject, they claimed that tire with over .060 runnout (right close to an 1/16" of an inch), it is labeled as out of round. I've performed my own tests on my coach and have found more than that figure. I then had them trued and it was like GLASS from that point on. They were done ON THE COACH and then, rebalanced. Each time it took less than 1/2 the original weight to rebalance the tire.
Is it possible to have a tire/wheel mounted "off center" on a hub"? Damn near impossible. Since 100% of todays tires and wheels are either "hub piloted" or "stud piloted" which means, one method or the other is CENTERING the wheel on the hub. Now, can a tire be mounted "off center" of the wheel, again, almost impossible but, it can happen in extremely rare circumstances. It happened to us when we first picked up our present coach, an Itasca Horizon 36GD with the 330 CAT. It's got 255-80R-22.5 tires. Both front tire were slightly miss-mounted. Les Schwab of Carson City NV, re-mounted them and again, they took about 1/3 the amount of weight that was previously on them.
So, yes, tires CAN BE OUT OF ROUND. Just how you choose to deal with it, is up to you. And the part about "dishonoring" warranty if a tire is trued, not so true. I've had Discount "Pay" for truing due to the fact that they had no tires to replace the ones they just sold me and one or two were out of round. Yes, they still kept the warranty on them.
Scott
One is, if the tire is under some form of warranty, then you do what you can to get it replaced. Whether or not the selling company complies is a whole 'nother subject. Most will.
Your second choice is, GET IT TRUED!!! I've had many tires trued. Truck tires, car tires, and motorhome tires. The last time I talked with Discount tire on the subject, they claimed that tire with over .060 runnout (right close to an 1/16" of an inch), it is labeled as out of round. I've performed my own tests on my coach and have found more than that figure. I then had them trued and it was like GLASS from that point on. They were done ON THE COACH and then, rebalanced. Each time it took less than 1/2 the original weight to rebalance the tire.
Is it possible to have a tire/wheel mounted "off center" on a hub"? Damn near impossible. Since 100% of todays tires and wheels are either "hub piloted" or "stud piloted" which means, one method or the other is CENTERING the wheel on the hub. Now, can a tire be mounted "off center" of the wheel, again, almost impossible but, it can happen in extremely rare circumstances. It happened to us when we first picked up our present coach, an Itasca Horizon 36GD with the 330 CAT. It's got 255-80R-22.5 tires. Both front tire were slightly miss-mounted. Les Schwab of Carson City NV, re-mounted them and again, they took about 1/3 the amount of weight that was previously on them.
So, yes, tires CAN BE OUT OF ROUND. Just how you choose to deal with it, is up to you. And the part about "dishonoring" warranty if a tire is trued, not so true. I've had Discount "Pay" for truing due to the fact that they had no tires to replace the ones they just sold me and one or two were out of round. Yes, they still kept the warranty on them.
Scott
