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Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
While researching these pages for my next Motor Home I saw a few threads discussing Rentals, most were Pros and Cons but very few posts from people who had purchased one.

I thought it may be a good resource and helpful to hear from these people. The good, the bad, what they liked and what they didnโ€™t. Also if they had any problems, things they changed, if they would recommend this to others or do it again.

Here is my story: I am not a novice, having owned a Class A for more than 15 years and doing the camping thing with my wife and two daughters, I can say โ€œbeen there done thatโ€ But life changes, and I sold everything so I have been away from this for several years. Starting over I lurked here for a while and got a lot of good insight then went looking.

My criteria was: A Class C within by budget, less than 30 feet so I can keep it at home, saving storage $, a rear bed, and a lot of storage space.

What fit that was Winnebago, Fleetwood and a few others, what I found mostly was Jamboree / Tioga 26Q. In the year models 2002 thru 2006. I did my home work looking at NADA and other sites to find the fair prices for the models that I was looking for.

After several months of searching the internet, Craigslist, private ads and Dealerships for a Class C that suited my budget and needs, this is what I found. Of the dozen or so I inquired about.Most were upsidedown in their payments, owing more than they were worth. All were on Ford Chassis, 7 needed tires, all had the original 7 to 10 year old tires, and they all needed repair of the awning and most needed some work inside or out and the maintenance records were sketchy, but most had low mileage. The Dealerships offerings were better but they had a profit margin to maintain so I got older models within my budget or huge up sales that didnโ€™t work for me.

My next step was looking at the rental market for sales. In my area there are 2 large companies that have rental sales, Cruise America and El Monte RV,who also sell Class A RVs.

First up was El Monte RV Their units are production RVs that are made by major manufactures, with TV antennas and hookups inside and out, Ducted A/C and heat, 2 house batteries, a rear ladder and parts are readily available from those manufactureโ€™s. I looked at their web site and it detailed their warranty and what was checked and serviced by their factory trained technicians. The unit I looked at was like new inside, the upholstery on all the seats was new as was the floor mat in the driverโ€™s area, it had a new mattress, still in plastic and a new bedspread. All of the curtains were new also. Newer (2010 mfg date) tires with 98% rubber and the mileage was ninety thousand (90,000).

Then there was Cruise America: Their units that I looked at seemed to be Spartan,no TV antenna or hookups for one,non-ducted A/C,small counter space and only one battery, no rear ladder for inspection and maintenance of roof and built just for them, they were all โ€œrefreshedโ€ their words not mine. They offered extended warranties at a huge cost. All had high mileage, one hundred and thirty thousand (130,000) or more and the price range seemed a little high. The sales staff had a take it or leave it attitude and were not very forthcoming when asked about maintenance records and service,they claim to have proprietary info in those records,It doesn't seem to be a problem for El Monte RV.

At El Monte RV I took a test ride; This Unit was a 2006 Tioga 26Q on a Chevrolet Chassis it rode
Drove and handled much better than the Fords that I had driven. It also had more leg room and was quieter. We got back and I asked about the service and maintenance on it, the salesman, Joey, handed me a 28 page single spaced document asked if I wanted some coffee or something to drink and said โ€œread this and if you have any questions I will answer themโ€.

It detailed everything that was done before and after each rental, the mileage, generator hours and hours billed. Each time it was washed and detailed inside and outside, all fluids were checked and replenished if needed, the holding tanks were washed, LP system was checked for leaks, all torque on wheel lugs were checked, brakes front and rear checked for wear and cracks, pressure in tires, all appliances, generator oil, lights inside and outside, the list goes on and on.

It also listed all oil changes,coolant change,trans service,fuel injector service and cleaning,fuel filters,air filter, new brakes, all repairs and replacements all with date, mileage and time spent in complete detail from day one to when it was pulled from the rental fleet and was refurbished. I have a complete service record on this vehicle.Also the service records on the Onan Generator,all oil changes,air filter and spark plug replacement with hours and date. I negotiated a good deal with them and am very happy with my purchase.

It came with a 1 yr. 12000 mile power train warranty and 30 day on all appliances. It also came with a 28 page maintenance record that detailed everything. Also the original sales packet from Fleetwood with the manual and serial numbers on all appliances,refrigerator, microwave,furnace, AC, water heater, etc. and the manual for the Chassis. I have had no problems with it so far.

(ON EDIT) 5 Years and close to 14000 miles.Just Scheduled Maintenance and new tires,old ones were at the 5 year mark and I wanted new Michelin LTX M/S2s.

There were a few things that it didnโ€™t have as it was a rental and the ones from private parties did have.
โ€ข Power steps, outside Stereo/CD donโ€™t need or want them.
โ€ข An Awning, this I wanted and had installed. A Swivel Seat and a new Window in The Door that I installed.
โ€ข Wheel Simulators, I like the looks so I had them installed and at the same time had Tire Man valve stem kit put on.
โ€ข Replaced the Chinese WFCO with a US Made converter/charger
โ€ข It came with mini blinds and not the day/night that most have, these are more practical and have a lot less failure.
  • It also came with Stainless Steel sinks,easier to maintain than the cheap plastic ones that come in the noncommercial units.

I am very happy with my Rig, it suites my needs and it was in my Budget range, I think I got a good deal.

So if you bought a rental please share your experience here for others to use as a resource.
Or if there are any other questions that have not been covered in these pages, just ask, there are many helpful people on this thread.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C
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EMD360
Explorer
Explorer
Happy Thanksgiving! Iโ€™m planning a February trip to Mesa, AZ for my sonโ€™s wedding. Hope to get south as quickly as possible and go through Las Cruces and back up through Safford. Booked campsites already.
Also hoping to keep mice out I bought fresh cab and two 12 volt ultrasonic repellers, one for the engine compartment and one for the inside. Will wire a 12 volt plug to that one. Also Peppermint rodent repeller spray for around the tires. Had mice in the house this year so worried about the rv.
Staying home through the holidays though. Although we are taking a little vacation without the rv after Christmas.
I added lithium batteries and a lithium converter and 360 watts of solar and an inverter. Iโ€™m not sure about winter charging of the lithium battery. The battery management system is supposed to stop charging at 32ยฐ. I bought a 120 volt battery warmer for if we get really cold weather. New stuff comes with new rules to learn. But Iโ€™m excited about these upgrades.
2018 Minnie Winnie 25b New to us 3/2021
Former Rental Owners Club #137
2003 Itasca Spirit 22e 2009-2021

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
Happy Thanksgiving to all the members of the Former Rental Owners.

Just getting ready for my 10th Annual week long Thanksgiving Trip,we even did it last year during the pandemic,last year it was a lot different because of Covid,much smaller,all outside and social distance and mask rules were in place. We had 20mph winds late in the day after the early meal,just got it cleaned up before it got real bad. We all survived and no one has gotten sick.


Everything on my RV works just as good as it did 10 years ago.

I am very happy with my choice of this Former Rental and its performance, it has given me great confidence in its use and dependability. I look forward to many more years of trouble free trips with family and friends or on my own.

I hope others on this thread have had the same luck and dependability and would share with us how it is going with your Former Rental.Many have and by all reports most if not all have had the same luck and dependability.

Everyone out there stay safe and healthy,we will get thru this and return to our camping ways.

So what are your plans this Holiday?
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

TwistedGray
Explorer
Explorer
IAMICHABOD wrote:
TwistedGray wrote:
Does anyone have recommendations on where to try and sell their 19G? I've been told RV Trader is a good place. It's just on Craigslist and FB Marketplace now, but I've only gotten a few tire kickers there.


When I was looking I found the most that I was interested were found at Smart RV Guide

There are some 19Gs listed there.


Thanks - I tossed it up there : )

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
TwistedGray wrote:
Does anyone have recommendations on where to try and sell their 19G? I've been told RV Trader is a good place. It's just on Craigslist and FB Marketplace now, but I've only gotten a few tire kickers there.


When I was looking I found the most that I was interested were found at Smart RV Guide

There are some 19Gs listed there.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

TwistedGray
Explorer
Explorer
Does anyone have recommendations on where to try and sell their 19G? I've been told RV Trader is a good place. It's just on Craigslist and FB Marketplace now, but I've only gotten a few tire kickers there.

Booner
Explorer
Explorer
eldel wrote:
Update for prospective purchasers of CA vehicles - they are no longer fitting awnings. Apparently the ones they were using were 'too difficult to use' and causing customer issues.

In my case it was 'too difficult to install' and CA are returning my money.


I'm assuming you are referring to the Denver CA. If so, I wouldn't be too upset that they don't want to install awnings anymore. I travelled back to Denver this past April to have them install my awning on my 23A that I purchased in Sept. 2020 as they couldn't get awnings at that time.

I was less than thrilled with their installation. The installers were not very well informed in how to do the installation or it's operation and did a hack job. I'm going to have to do some "southern engineering" to make sure the awning will stay on my coach. By the time I drove back home (central Missouri) from Denver, all of the screws that hold the awning to the top of the coach had backed out. I'm happy that these screws don't have to hold the weight of the awning as I probably would have lost it somewhere in Kansas. After they got the awning installed, they didn't know how to deploy it, but I was able to figure it out before they broke something.

eldel
Explorer
Explorer
Yeah - I'm going to get one done during the winter refit. We were supposed to get all the outside stuff last year - ah well. Hopefully come spring we'll be finished . Yeah right ๐Ÿ™‚

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
WOW that dealer seems to just not be interested in doing the job and is blowing smoke up you know where

That awning is one of the easiest to install and work,I have done both.

Parts for this awning are readily available from multiple sources ,Amazon.E bay and many RV Parts houses,I bought a part I need on E Bay,it was cheaper that all the others.

It is to bad that that CA dealership treated you this way,I would suggest looking for a RV shop around you and have them install an awning. I had mine put on by Camping World and they did an excellent job.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

eldel
Explorer
Explorer
I don't remember to be honest. I'll dig through some paperwork and see if I can find the details.

Edit: Dometic LL Sunchaser

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
What Brand Name/Make and Model that CA seems to find to difficult to use and install? It seems that they can't install it correctly if they put yours on backwards,pretty incompetent in my opinion.

The manual ones are fairly easy to install,I helped my Son In Law install one on his trailer not long ago.Plenty of YouTube videos out there that show how to do it.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

eldel
Explorer
Explorer
TwistedGray wrote:
eldel wrote:
Update for prospective purchasers of CA vehicles - they are no longer fitting awnings. Apparently the ones they were using were 'too difficult to use' and causing customer issues.

In my case it was 'too difficult to install' and CA are returning my money.


Are you sure that this is nationwide and not site specific?


The sales droid at Denver didn't say it explicitly - but he did say they didn't know where to get the parts from to complete the installation (they installed the original back to front and broke the internals trying to make is work backwards) and that they didn't have a replacement.

TwistedGray
Explorer
Explorer
eldel wrote:
Update for prospective purchasers of CA vehicles - they are no longer fitting awnings. Apparently the ones they were using were 'too difficult to use' and causing customer issues.

In my case it was 'too difficult to install' and CA are returning my money.


Are you sure that this is nationwide and not site specific?

eldel
Explorer
Explorer
Update for prospective purchasers of CA vehicles - they are no longer fitting awnings. Apparently the ones they were using were 'too difficult to use' and causing customer issues.

In my case it was 'too difficult to install' and CA are returning my money.

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
RVandHD wrote:
I wanted to say how much I appreciated this thread. I have finished reading all 157 pages.

It has been a great help.

Thanks to @iamichabod for starting it, and to all the folks that added value with their many posts over the years.


That is great that got thru it all. The real thanks does go to all those that have contributed.

That is one thing that is so great about this Forum,all the members here that want to help others and share their experiences. Their wealth of information in invaluable.

I may have started it but all the other members have kept it going,of that I am very appreciative,so keep it up you all
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
gotsmart wrote:
all of a sudden I feel old


AW don't say that! After all you were one of the first to respond to this thread and it has been only 9 years.....Your many informative posts over the years have no doubt helped many others,I know they helped me,keep them commin.
Once I passed that 70 mark I thought the same but I am still truckin along.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C