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kemer
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We are going to pull our fishing boat to the lake with our 36' class A. DW thinks we should be able to back the class A with boat down a boat ramp to launch. I said "never seen that done, must be a reason". Closest I've seen is a class C with a hitch on front end to go down a boat ramp to launch a boat. Assuming the launch area is open enough without tight corners, etc is there some reason I shouldn't try this?
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mowermech
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Jim_Arndt wrote:
How wide is you trailer/fishing boat. If it's to narrow to see in your mirrors, it will be very difficult and you won't be successful...


I did not find that to be true.
the boat: Vintage Bell Boy 16 foot fiberglass, on a tandem axle trailer.
The motorhome: 1995 Class C. No rear view camera, no rear window.
Could not see the boat when it was straight behind the motorhome.
Taking it slow, I could see the boat in the left or right mirror as soon as it got out of line. It was easy to correct. When the boat disappeared from the mirrors, continue backing.
Not very problematic at all!
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liborko
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I have been pulling 19 foot boat for 13 years with class C and for the last 12 years with gas class A. No problem whatsoever.

427435
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I've had no problem doing it, including some not so good launch sites like this Canadian camp. Yes, bad things can happen if you don't know what you're doing----------------just the same as when launching with any other vehicle.


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RayChez
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Pogoil wrote:
Jim_Arndt wrote:
Pogoil wrote:
Jim_Arndt wrote:
How wide is you trailer/fishing boat. If it's to narrow to see in your mirrors, it will be very difficult and you won't be successful...


Are you kidding?????

Pogoil.



Lol, no, I was not kidding. I had a 17'center console towed by a class c with a 10foot overhang. I could not see the trailer when it was straight behind me. By the time I saw it, it was too late to correct. I ended up bungee cording a broom hanging off the left of the boat, and a mop on the other side, so at least I could see those. Wasn't fun... 🙂


I have no problem at all.



I have to agree with Jim. If you can not see the fenders of the trailer, you do not know if your trailer is backing straight or going in an angle. My boat is 24' and the trailer is wide, so that makes it easy to see how the boat trailer is tracking.
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Groover wrote:
I have only launched once so far with my 35' DP and 21' dual console, no problems were encountered and I expect to do it again. I became very aware of turbo-lag on the way up. I did it many times with my previous rig, and 1991 F250 and very large slide-in camper with 4' of overhang from the rear bumper. At least the air brakes on the DP give a very secure parking brake and the batteries are handy for my electric winch. The DP has backup cameras that make seeing much easier than it was with the slide-in camper. I found it handy to plan a curving approach so that I was not having to guess which mirror I needed to look at to see the trailer. That also let me watch for things getting behind the boat while backing up.

As noted earlier I use an electric winch to pull the boat up the trailer so I don't have to get it so deep. In fact, I keep the axles dry. I have seen many people put their truck in deeper than I put my trailer in.


Just wondering, you say you "Keep your axles dry", correct? If so, how does the boat launch when the trailer is that far out of the water? And, on the flip side, you must have to have a fair amount of winch cable out to retrieve the boat. And, while I'm not familiar with your boat and trailer, it would see that, if you're intent on keeping the axles dry, (which I personally don't see why but, that's me) then your boat almost seems like it would have to "climb" onto the rails of the trailer, all because you don't want to get your axles wet.

I mean, it's yours so, you can launch and retrieve in which ever manor works for you but, I was just wondering why it's so important to keep those axles dry when they're made to get wet.
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Groover
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I have only launched once so far with my 35' DP and 21' dual console, no problems were encountered and I expect to do it again. I became very aware of turbo-lag on the way up. I did it many times with my previous rig, and 1991 F250 and very large slide-in camper with 4' of overhang from the rear bumper. At least the air brakes on the DP give a very secure parking brake and the batteries are handy for my electric winch. The DP has backup cameras that make seeing much easier than it was with the slide-in camper. I found it handy to plan a curving approach so that I was not having to guess which mirror I needed to look at to see the trailer. That also let me watch for things getting behind the boat while backing up.

As noted earlier I use an electric winch to pull the boat up the trailer so I don't have to get it so deep. In fact, I keep the axles dry. I have seen many people put their truck in deeper than I put my trailer in.

Pogoil
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Jim_Arndt wrote:
Pogoil wrote:
Jim_Arndt wrote:
How wide is you trailer/fishing boat. If it's to narrow to see in your mirrors, it will be very difficult and you won't be successful...


Are you kidding?????

Pogoil.



Lol, no, I was not kidding. I had a 17'center console towed by a class c with a 10foot overhang. I could not see the trailer when it was straight behind me. By the time I saw it, it was too late to correct. I ended up bungee cording a broom hanging off the left of the boat, and a mop on the other side, so at least I could see those. Wasn't fun... 🙂


I have no problem at all.

Jim_Arndt
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Pogoil wrote:
Jim_Arndt wrote:
How wide is you trailer/fishing boat. If it's to narrow to see in your mirrors, it will be very difficult and you won't be successful...


Are you kidding?????

Pogoil.



Lol, no, I was not kidding. I had a 17'center console towed by a class c with a 10foot overhang. I could not see the trailer when it was straight behind me. By the time I saw it, it was too late to correct. I ended up bungee cording a broom hanging off the left of the boat, and a mop on the other side, so at least I could see those. Wasn't fun... 🙂
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DonBaja
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I have a 36' Monaco Dynasty and a 24' Sea Ray Sun Dancer. I have launched all over the place. Your brakes will likely screech backing down a steep ramp as they aren't used to be used in that direction. On a flat ramp make sure you know where to stop. If you go into the water too deep you could dunk your side radiator fans which would likely damage them.

Pogoil
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Jim_Arndt wrote:
How wide is you trailer/fishing boat. If it's to narrow to see in your mirrors, it will be very difficult and you won't be successful...


Are you kidding?????

Pogoil.

Jim_Arndt
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How wide is you trailer/fishing boat. If it's to narrow to see in your mirrors, it will be very difficult and you won't be successful...
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TugCamp
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I have a 34' Class A and have used it to launch my 20' boat many times. Being a gasser I have a long rear overhang which actually helps keep the wheels on the dry part of the ramp (this depends on the ramp obviously). Here is the kicker though, I launch at a private resort where the ramp is normally really quiet. I could not imagine launching at a busy public ramp on a weekend in the summer with a large class A, I take a lot of room to line everything up. I can be done though...
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RayChez wrote:
You can do it if it is a gasoline motorhome. You can not do it if it is a diesel pusher. Your engine would be under water in some launch ramps with a diesel pusher.


Well,
Much of it depends on both the style of boat, i.e. pontoon/tri-toon, fishing, flat bottom, deep V etc. and, also the boat ramp angle. We live in Lake Havasu City AZ and have seen many, many class A's back boats into the water there. And, quite a few of them have been diesel pushers. Not one of the pushers had the water in the engine area. Now, our boat ramp angles are such that, in about 99.99% of the cases, the boat, at least most designs, float off the trailer as the fenders just duck under the water level.

Yep, the tires come close and or, do get wet but, the engine is not harmed. The area of concern is, how long your class A or even C is. Angle preparation for backing is of great importance. Not many can articulate 36'-40' of coach, and, 25'-30' of boat trailer into the correct position for backing, in most given boat ramp prep areas unless, there's a fair amount of open, un-restricted, turning and straight area for prep, for backing up.

Backing a boat in at an angle is perfectly Ok if, you begin at even a 90 degree angle backing but, the boat ends up floating off the trailer, while it's perpendicular to the water line. That is of course, making sure that, there's nothing to inhibit the swing of the coach, in its total operation of backing. If it's an un-crowded boat ramp, and there's plenty of area, no problem. But, in many popular boating areas, the use of a full sized Class A for manipulating a boat in to position for launching, is severely restricted.

The ultimate of course is to be straight as can be, when backing it all up. I've launched at many boat ramps where this is possible, even with the 36' coach and, the 22' boat we presently have. But, I've also seen (and we have some where we live now) some that will not accommodate that length in prep for backing.

There are some vehicles, i.e. trucks, SUVs, cars etc. that are lower and therefore, might tip the body into the water as the boat nears floating stage.

Anyway, as stated, there's lots of variables that come into play in launching a boat. You'll just have to take them all into account when you arrive at your next boat ramp. Good luck.
Scott
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fuzzyface
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When I was pulling my boat with the MH, I had a hitch fabricated for the front of the MH....I simply unhooked at the ramp, turned the MH around and hooked the boat up to the front hitch. Worked like a dream. Except for the time my friend forgot to latch the trailer down to the front hitch -- we launched the trailer too.
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