Difference between a B and a B+ and C+

[barnrt]

I know that a Class B is on a van chassis and a C is on a truck chassis. But what is the difference between a B and B +? I am told that the difference between a C and C + is that the C+ does not have the bed extension over the windshield. Is this correct? So it seems that a c+ and a B are similar . Are they?

[quietjake]

I recently saw (and LUSTED after) a "C class" that had 4 slides & was mounted on an OTR diesel rig. Think it was around 32' long. Way spendy as well, but probably could easily go full time with 3 generations of my family in it.

[Davydd]

wildtoad wrote:
Technically, there is no such thing as a B+. Winnebago came up with the A,B,C classifications years ago based on how the MH is constructed.

A. Built from the ground up using a truck chassis.

B. A converted/gutted/extended van, can have extended roof.

C. Starting with the cab of a van or truck, perhaps the chassis, build the living quarters. Many C's have a "Cab over" bed but this is not a requirement. All B+'s are in reality Class C's.

An example is The old Winnebago Rialta which was based on a VW van front end (and only the front end) delivered to Winnebago who added the living area. Look at Winnebago's website and you will see the Aspect which is a class c but is similar to what others sell as a B+.

Marketers came up with the B+ to differentiate the style from the cab over bed look but it is still a C.

The C+ term I suspect refers to what some call a Super C which is a class c MH based on a big diesel truck cab and chassis, with the living area added on just like any other class c.

That is sanity in explaining it all. So much of the rest in this thread is wishful thinking, IMO.

[quietjake]

I just bought a "B plus" Trail Lite R-vision. Maybe it all is marketing hype, but here's what I found in my own research:

The "B" class I looked at all were single rear wheels;
The "B" cab was all the same width from front bumper to rear.
The "B" cab was typically 1/2-3/4 ton chassis;
The "B" cab usually was of lesser head room inside, having a lower outside roof clearance;

The "B plus" all had duals built on "one ton chassis" so I'm told.

The "B plus" widens behind driver door, so the side-to-side from there to the rear bumper has more inside space;

The "B plus" universally was taller inside headroom, and typically up to 10'8" or so outside roof clearance;

The "B plus" typically has a slightly more aerodynamic front roof shape because there isn't a bed over the front seats, being used for other things. Mine has entertainment center & storage, with extra clearance to access drivers seat.
Perhaps the Cs are like this too.

I do see some very long B+ styles, and even now with slides.

I'm not making claim to accuracy, just listing what I observed.

I was searching far & wide for a tremendous deal on a Road Trek, but never found what we were after.

In any case, my 23' "B plus" fits exactly what we were after.

Handles like a sports car, parks like a mini Cooper, got mileage 13+ on first outing.

So far so good.

[Gene_in_NE]

mlts22 - I was always led to believe the reason the PW Excel and the RT 210 is a Class B is because of the way Pleasureway and Roadtrek purchased the unit from Ford or Chevy. If the unit was purchased as a van and then was chopped, stretched, raised, or lowered and then converted, it remained a Class B. If they would have purchased the unit as a cab/chassis without the rest of the body, it would be a Class C. The key to the Class of the motorhome is how did the unit leave the factory, not the converter.

[Arizona_Kid]

mlts22 wrote:
There are some arguments on "B"s which can be argued are "C"s. The PW Excel, or the RT 210 Versatile have fiberglass bodies past the cab area, so some consider these models class Cs.

But there not, because they started out as a van, and that is the definition this forum, and RIVA have used for years.
It's just a way to keep the Types/Classes organized between the B and C forums.
Otherwise it would be more confusing than it is.

[mlts22]

There are some arguments on "B"s which can be argued are "C"s. The PW Excel, or the RT 210 Versatile have fiberglass bodies past the cab area, so some consider these models class Cs.

[mumkin]

GENECOP wrote:
IMO LTV is a good example of the differences between a B and B+ go to the LTV website and compare the Free Spirit to the Libero......

As a Libero owner... it is a C... and that is what LTV correctly called it until they were purchased by Triple E. EEE decided that they would adopt the 'salesman term' of B+, rather than follow RVIA designations... and I correct them regularly - at their rallies, visiting the factory, and on their Facebook page. :B

Yes... they ignore me too...

[retraite]

wildtoad wrote:
From a marketing perspective, B+ sounds a lot better than C-.

Ditto on your child's, or grandchild's transcript.

Cheers.

[loving_retireme]

As for class categories beyond A, B or C, it is whatever it takes the manufacture to sell the rig. I expect to be seeing class B++ in the near future, but not B-- or C--.

[wildtoad]

WyoTraveler wrote:
Thank you. Great point. As the population is getting older I suspected they wanted to open up the market on B and C RVs to some of the older RVers that couldn't crawl up into the cab over bed and their rug rats had grown up so over the cab beds were wasted space.

That might be why they make C class RV's with the entertainment system in the cab over area and bed in the back. I also suspect older generation folk can figure this out and didn't need a new designation.

From a marketing perspective, B+ sounds a lot better than C-.

[rvten]

Other than the over head. The chassis is the same with the E450.

[WyoTraveler]

GENECOP wrote:
While it's probably true Technically, many manufacturers use these + terms. So if we are discussing classes technically we must consider what terms exist whether technically they are correct or not...

Thank you. Great point. As the population is getting older I suspected they wanted to open up the market on B and C RVs to some of the older RVers that couldn't crawl up into the cab over bed and their rug rats had grown up so over the cab beds were wasted space. Now we can be real technical saying there is no B+ or C+ but the fact is, there Is a difference between the two that makes a difference for sales to the older generation. JMHO.

[rvten]

RVIA set the designation.
B+ was just a marketing ploy. Still made on a cut await chassis like the C with a Rug Rat room over the cab.

A B is on a van chassis.

[GENECOP]

While it's probably true Technically, many manufacturers use these + terms. So if we are discussing classes technically we must consider what terms exist whether technically they are correct or not...