MH Tire Balance

[bigred1cav]

What should one pay for balance of each tire on a MH? Where is it best to have this service completed and what should an alignment cost on a MH?

[bigred1cav]

How does one calculate the number of dynabeads to put in each tire? 19.5 inch then how does one know what psi to inflate to? Where may I get this service done? I have no air compressor large enough for 6 tires would take a month to inflate them.

[RayChez]

rgatijnet1 wrote:

Airstreamer67 wrote:
Quote: "Equal has a similar applicator to add the balancing powder through the valve stem. If you use Equal, make sure you also use the special valve stem cores with the attached screen to insure you do not get a grain of the powder trapped in the valve core seal and loose air pressure. Dynabeads are much larger so you do not have that problem with them." End of Quote.

Actually, the Dynabeads folks do recommend the use of special valve cores with screens on them to keep the beads from obstructing the cores. They sell such cores for that use. However, I have found Dynabeads work very well without problems with regular unscreened valve cores. In fact, ironically, the only valve cores I ever had problems with while using Dynabeads were the screened ones I bought from Dynabeads for use with their
product. Several of those screened stems leaked air over a several year period, and I replaced each of them with regular cores with no further problems whatsoever. Kind of funny the way it worked out for me.

Dynabeads come in different sizes. The ones specifically for RV's are the largest beads and are designed to work with standard valve cores and with any TPMS system. A lot of shops do not stock the larger RV beads and they then recommend the special valve cores with the smaller beads. The best bet is to just order the right Dynabeads and take them with you when you get new tires.
Equal POWDER works fine if there is no moisture in your tires. Any moisture tends to cause clumping with is not a problem with the Dynabeads. Some tire installers use way too much lubricant when mounting tires and this can affect the balancing powder.

Equal comes in small bags. You have to drive like ten miles for them to break open and the powder then comes out. No way lubricant can wet the powder. I have changed tires three times now and with the modern equipment they have to change tires 22.5 they do not need much lubricant.

[rgatijnet1]

Airstreamer67 wrote:
Quote: "Equal has a similar applicator to add the balancing powder through the valve stem. If you use Equal, make sure you also use the special valve stem cores with the attached screen to insure you do not get a grain of the powder trapped in the valve core seal and loose air pressure. Dynabeads are much larger so you do not have that problem with them." End of Quote.

Actually, the Dynabeads folks do recommend the use of special valve cores with screens on them to keep the beads from obstructing the cores. They sell such cores for that use. However, I have found Dynabeads work very well without problems with regular unscreened valve cores. In fact, ironically, the only valve cores I ever had problems with while using Dynabeads were the screened ones I bought from Dynabeads for use with their product. Several of those screened stems leaked air over a several year period, and I replaced each of them with regular cores with no further problems whatsoever. Kind of funny the way it worked out for me.

Dynabeads come in different sizes. The ones specifically for RV's are the largest beads and are designed to work with standard valve cores and with any TPMS system. A lot of shops do not stock the larger RV beads and they then recommend the special valve cores with the smaller beads. The best bet is to just order the right Dynabeads and take them with you when you get new tires.
Equal POWDER works fine if there is no moisture in your tires. Any moisture tends to cause clumping with is not a problem with the Dynabeads. Some tire installers use way too much lubricant when mounting tires and this can affect the balancing powder.

[Airstreamer67]

Quote: "Equal has a similar applicator to add the balancing powder through the valve stem. If you use Equal, make sure you also use the special valve stem cores with the attached screen to insure you do not get a grain of the powder trapped in the valve core seal and loose air pressure. Dynabeads are much larger so you do not have that problem with them." End of Quote.

Actually, the Dynabeads folks do recommend the use of special valve cores with screens on them to keep the beads from obstructing the cores. They sell such cores for that use. However, I have found Dynabeads work very well without problems with regular unscreened valve cores. In fact, ironically, the only valve cores I ever had problems with while using Dynabeads were the screened ones I bought from Dynabeads for use with their product. Several of those screened stems leaked air over a several year period, and I replaced each of them with regular cores with no further problems whatsoever. Kind of funny the way it worked out for me.

[RayChez]

I have used Equal since 2008 which was my first tire change of all six tires.
At that time I had the new Toyo tires installed at a place called Discount Tires in Las Vegas, Nev. Then my third tire change was in 2013 in Barstow, Ca at Pete's tire, and again I had six Toyo tires installed with the Equal balancing bags and air filtered valve stems.

You can not ask for a better ride, smooth and the tires wear out perfectly smooth. None of that cupping or rivering that a lot of coaches have problems with.

[bigred1cav]

What national company installs this balance product? Does any of you have long term experience with this product? What is your evaluation of the product and its prevention of tire wear?

[Fleet_Man]

QUOTE: "Actually using a small applicator, available from Dynabeads, you do not even have to take the wheels off of the coach. You just deflate the tire, pull out the valve core, pour in the Dynabeads, insert the valve core, and inflate the tire again."

Equal has a similar applicator to add the balancing powder through the valve stem. If you use Equal, make sure you also use the special valve stem cores with the attached screen to insure you do not get a grain of the powder trapped in the valve core seal and loose air pressure. Dynabeads are much larger so you do not have that problem with them.

[phnguyk]

Dyna beads.

[wildmanbaker]

When you deflate a 19.5" tire, one side of the tire will almost always come off the rim. This why most tire techs don't use a mount/dismount machine to change 19.5 tires. Its more trouble to lift the tire/rim on and off the machine the to use manual tire irons, and faster too. Actual wheel weights are the way to go, if they have a balancer to handle that size rim.

[bigred1cav]

19 inch rims F 53 Gas V 10 2000 Pace Arrow

[rgatijnet1]

DSDP Don wrote:
You still didn't say what size rims you have. To add the Equal beads or Dyna beads, they'll have to remove the tires and rims, break down one bead and insert a bag of beads. If they're 22.5" tires, I'm guessing about $35-$50 per tire. A little less if they're 19".

Actually using a small applicator, available from Dynabeads, you do not even have to take the wheels off of the coach. You just deflate the tire, pull out the valve core, pour in the Dynabeads, insert the valve core, and inflate the tire again. Dynabeads applicator

[FIRE_UP]

Well Sir,
You still haven't described what year/make/model/engine of coach you have. On gas coaches, the suspension and front end components most of the time are not quite as expensive to align as the diesel versions. As far as balancing is concerned, as you'll find out, there's different forms of balancing for automotive tires.

I've used the manual style, (attaching weights to the rims) for decades and, it's always worked well for me. But, others will differ and use balancing beads, powders, and more that are introduced to the inside of the tire. It's been suggested that you get four wheel alignment. Well, that's fine if, IF, the rear is adjustable.

On many gas coaches, as in the F-53 chassis, the rear is set from the factory (usually leaf springs) and that's it, there's no adjustment. I could be wrong on this but, I had no rear adjustment on my previous coach, a '99 Fleetwood Bounder 34V with the F-53 and V-10. But, on diesel units, depending on the chassis maker, there are adjustment rods that can be turned and, that will allow for the rear differential to be pointed in the right direction.

Scott

[DSDP_Don]

You still didn't say what size rims you have. To add the Equal beads or Dyna beads, they'll have to remove the tires and rims, break down one bead and insert a bag of beads. If they're 22.5" tires, I'm guessing about $35-$50 per tire. A little less if they're 19".

[RayChez]

trop-a-cal wrote:
If you use Equal for balancing you never need to have tires balanced, as it is a powder that moves to the spot needed as you drive down the road.

X2 on Equal, that is all I have used and the tires wear perfect. I have never had any problems with uneven wear on the tires.