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Price for 2016 motorhome

jamharrison
Explorer
Explorer
Looking to buy my first Class A Diesel Pusher. I'm looking at 2016 Thor Tuscany XTE 40 BX which MSRP at $307,269. What would be a good price off sticker, like 33-37%. Just wondering how far they will come down. Thanks
Thor Tuscany XTE 40BX
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kalynzoo
Explorer
Explorer
I purchased a 2015 Tiffin on it's way to the 2015 RV show in Pomona discounted 25%. There were lots of reasons for the discount (none of them being family) just they couldn't complete the previous deal (they crashed the coach before delivery). Anyway 25% appears to be a good feel good number.
I won't disparage Thor, but after long careful inspection and research I purchased Tiffin.

Bruce_Brown
Moderator
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bullydogs1 wrote:
For that kind of money you might be able to get a 2015 Entegra Aspire, as the 2016's are just about to come out..A 2 yr warranty and unparalled support and customer service...along with a side radiator...I have had first hand dealings with Entegra and a dealer and Entegra will be the next new one.

Another excellent choice.

IMO Comfort Drive is what sets Newmar apart from Entegra - other than that I'd put those 2 in the same sentence when discussing quality build and engineering. Those 2 have a lot in common when it comes to building design.
There are 24 hours in every day - it all depends on how you choose to use them.
Bruce & Jill Brown
2008 Kountry Star Pusher 3910

smacdiesel
Explorer
Explorer
Effy wrote:
Here we go with the Thor bashing again - by folks who don't own one. Scwintek slides are used by a lot of manufacturers. I remember seeing a few threads where Winnie slides failed too. Fixes were incorporated into the design and I haven't seen a failed slide thread in months. .


Effy, it's not that I'm bashing Thor, I agree with you, the manufacturers you have listed have problems as well. My opinion is that $300,000 is a lot of money to throw at a poorly built depreciating asset. That is a fact, motorhomes for the most part are built pretty flimsy. They lose value like crazy and for many middle income earners especially younger families, they could/should put their money into some better investment opportunities.

I'm saddened how quickly these rv's rot just after a few years, but the payments stay the same for the majority of those who finance and get locked into something they cannot afford. Having owned my Rv(which I love and would buy again) for about a year I know how much it costs to enjoy it, boy is it expensive! I'm just glad I bought it later in life and can afford it, 20 years ago this same experience really could have curtailed my retirement portfolio.

Just my two cents.
2015 Winnebago Vista 35B
1983 Jeep CJ 8 Scrambler

webslave
Explorer
Explorer
I'm one of those that own a "pig with lipstick"... I've had far fewer problems with my '14 Tuscany 40RX than I've ever had from any RV that I've owned from popups, bumper pulls to 5th wheels. Thor had some transition problems from Damon to Thor, but, mine at any rate is worth every penny I paid for it. Freightliner XCR chassis with 60 degree turn, 450 HP/1250 torque Cummins ISL...every option in the book for that year. Granted, I'm not familiar with XTE version, but, I'll keep my 40RX and I'd do it over if I had to.

As far as discount? A lot depends on the dealer. Some dealers will balk at much of a discount on the newest models on the lot, and 16's are just that. They haven't sat long enough for the dealer to want to turn them over and they are thinking that some folks will pay a premium to own a '16 since 2015 is barely half over. Other dealers will take a deal just to move those expensive coaches. If it is what you want, make your best offer...the worst they can do is say "no" and they may come back with a counter offer that is close and still something that you can live with. The important thing is to keep your head and walk away if you can't get a price that has "value" to you and "value to you" can't be stated as a black and white percentage. Whether it be a Tuscany or any other brand. A "perfect match" in floor plan and features is surely worth a few more bucks than driving a "hard bargain" on something that is lacking in that "perfect coach".
My 2 cents, your mileage may vary...

Don
Bronwyn
Down to 1 kitty...J-Lo, the princess


2014 Thor Tuscany 40RX
2015 Jeep Cherokee TrailHawk Towed

sandblast
Explorer
Explorer
Bruce Brown wrote:
I won't agree with those saying no big discount on a '16. We did 30% off the new one and $5K over NADA Trade for our trade-in when we ordered our last one. That was in June of '07 on a new '08.

Just because it's new doesn't mean they won't discount.



X2 Bruce Brown

If they won`t listen to 30%discount Walk away

fredbon
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Explorer
Lots of 2016 here:

Motor Home Specialist

Fred
Fred and Bonnie
Frankie & Scarlett, (The Cats)
2005 Dolphin LX 6375
2006 Saturn VUE

As I've Matured... I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

bullydogs1
Explorer
Explorer
For that kind of money you might be able to get a 2015 Entegra Aspire, as the 2016's are just about to come out..A 2 yr warranty and unparalled support and customer service...along with a side radiator...I have had first hand dealings with Entegra and a dealer and Entegra will be the next new one.
Stuart and Stella Denning
2016 Entegra Aspire 42RBQ
The 3 Bulldogs (Daisy, Sylvie and Stashie)
2018 Equinox Diesel (TOAD)

dsteinman
Explorer
Explorer
We have a 2012 Fleetwood Discovery 40G. Very similar floor plan and price to the Thor. One difference is our Discovery has the Cummins ISC instead of the ISB-XT. Current ones have a detuned ISL.

If nothing else, it might help in negotiations.

We did have a 2007 Four Winds 34H super-c before and it was fine. But comparing them isn't an apples to apples comparison.

David
2012 Fleetwood Discovery 40G
2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
2019 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited

Bruce_Brown
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Effy wrote:
Here we go with the Thor bashing again - by folks who don't own one. Scwintek slides are used by a lot of manufacturers. I remember seeing a few threads where Winnie slides failed too. Fixes were incorporated into the design and I haven't seen a failed slide thread in months.

Not bashing, just saying be aware. The major engineering flaws on our Thor TT were something a 10th grade BOCES Class wouldn't have done. Having said that, thats a TT, not a MH - big difference for sure.

As to the slides, we were in Gettysburg last weekend and there was a beautiful new Winne Tour parked off to the side, with one slide 1/2 in and twisted like no slide should ever be twisted. It was bad. I just looked up "Schwintek slides" and sure enough - that was the system on the one that failed.

On a side note, I'm glad your ACE has treated you well. I hate to see horror stories and quality issues. Case in point, the Winnie mentioned above - what a crappy way to end a trip - and their trip isn't over. They still need to get it fixed and get it back on the road. It's too bad not every MH or TT doesn't work as they should.
There are 24 hours in every day - it all depends on how you choose to use them.
Bruce & Jill Brown
2008 Kountry Star Pusher 3910

Ranger_Smith
Explorer
Explorer
et2 wrote:
Being a previous owner of a couple Thor products,they are nothing more than lipstick on a pig. As many have indicated here, it would be a wise decision to consider all your options.


That is a compliment for them . . . Sorry couldn't resist.
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et2
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Explorer
Being a previous owner of a couple Thor products,they are nothing more than lipstick on a pig. As many have indicated here, it would be a wise decision to consider all your options.

Ranger_Smith
Explorer
Explorer
jamharrison wrote:
Looking to buy my first Class A Diesel Pusher. I'm looking at 2016 Thor Tuscany XTE 40 BX which MSRP at $307,269. What would be a good price off sticker, like 33-37%. Just wondering how far they will come down. Thanks


You can probably get a nice winnebago for that price. I have had Thor's and would not buy another one. Just my opunion.
Where we are now

Amateur Radio Operator WW1SS . . . Flex 6500 PGXL and TGXL
Steve and Joy
2014 Itasca Suncruiser 38Q . . . 2016 Lincoln MKX
The Doodles, Abbie & Abel
Baby and Kissie the Chihuahuas and Lucy the Biewere Yorkie

Effy
Explorer
Explorer
Here we go with the Thor bashing again - by folks who don't own one. Scwintek slides are used by a lot of manufacturers. I remember seeing a few threads where Winnie slides failed too. Fixes were incorporated into the design and I haven't seen a failed slide thread in months. But none of that matters because the Tuscany doesn't use the Schwintek slides on any of the full walls. - More evidence people don't know what they are talking about. Winnie's roofs come off. I have read threads about the famed Newmar quality being just as bad as anyone else's. I remember going through a Newmar at a show and seeing first hand things like bin doors coming away from the hinges, shades falling down from screws not properly anchored, the infamous Amish quality cabinetry having stapled and glued veneer wall panels and cheap glides. Heck on one the wall panel was pulling away. This was a brand new coach. I would challenge anyone to go to a show, walk through several brands of similar model coaches without looking at the manufacturer and see if you can tell me what brand it is. They all use the same cheap stuff and I haven't been overly impressed with anyone's quality. I have had zero issues with my entry level Thor. And I have to say it's one of the best companies I've dealt with in terms of customer service and support. The Tuscany is no entry level coach and I have seen nothing but praise from folks on this forum that own them. Hopefully they will chime in as they actually know what they are talking about. I would expect 25-35% off MSRP.
2013 ACE 29.2

Bruce_Brown
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I won't agree with those saying no big discount on a '16. We did 30% off the new one and $5K over NADA Trade for our trade-in when we ordered our last one. That was in June of '07 on a new '08.

Just because it's new doesn't mean they won't discount.
There are 24 hours in every day - it all depends on how you choose to use them.
Bruce & Jill Brown
2008 Kountry Star Pusher 3910