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Total Rebuild of a 1979 Dodge Class C

oldtrucker63
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I would say some of you have seen the start of this build that my brother bgriffey had posted, Well I have now bought the RV from him and plan to post the pixs of the build I have found a lot of rot in this RV I have torn out everything on the inside and have the rear opened up and the skin off the lower driver side, I will be buying a camera for my wife for christmas and im sure she will take the pixs if I can learn HOW to post them on here, Please remember its winter here in Kentucky so it will be slow but we will keep the pixs coming, Like I said this will be a total build from floor to walls and roof and custom inside build so I would appreciate all the help I can get this will be my first build and I will be learning as I go so any info will help. THANKS......Tony Griffey.

A new RV can be very expensive and if you already own an outdated RV then you should just consider a complete RV remodel which can be a significant amount of money cheaper than the cost of a brand new model. If you are retired and use your RV to travel then why not save the money for your travels rather than on spending a large chunk of money on a brand new travelling vacation home. When you decide to have an RV remodel done you can have your old model completely gutted and rebuilt to look just like a newer RV and when the work is done you will not even recognize your old mobile home. Going about having a new RV to travel in this way can save you thousands of dollars and you will not have to worry about the payments on a brand new RV home. Many retired people are travelling this way nowadays so they can travel the country and be comfortable while doing it, and there are many others that own these vehicles that they will take on summer family camping trips. The RVโ€™s that are made today are unbelievable and have all of the luxuries of home at a fraction of the size, these make it great fir families and retired folks to travel comfortably, and having an RV remodel done you can make your old RV look just like a brand new one.

Statistics show that the amount of registered RV homes on the road is growing steadily every year, and much of this is due to the baby boomer generation retiring and wanting to travel the country in comfort and style. Having an RV remodel can make your RV brand new. Some things you may want to consider is having all new beds and appliances put in. Since RV appliances are smaller than your normal home kitchen appliances they are much cheaper, and a complete RV remodel will probably cost you anywhere from $5,000 to $12,000, depending on how many changes are being done. The latter price could even be a little more if you are having your RV completely gutted and redesigned. It will still save you a lot of money over purchasing a new RV home. Another thing to consider during your RV remodel is if you plan on just remodeling the inside or if you want to have the exterior redone as well, and if this is the case the project will cost more money but will still be cheaper than buying a new RV. Most of these vacationing and traveling vehicles have a type of siding on them, and the more modern ones are sometimes made of more durable fibreglasses and plastics, these materials are very nice since you do not ever have to worry about rusting.

If you plan on getting a loan out for this remodeling job then you will first want to get various estimates, much like a home remodeling project. Once you get all the estimates you want you can then apply for the amount of money through your financial institution or credit union. The amount of money you need should not be hard for you to get approved for, especially if you have good credit. If you are a retired individual you most likely can take the money out of your pension or 401 funds, and this would be your best bet due to interest rates. Usually the place where you originally bought the RV can do the remodel for you as well, and if they cannot they can usually refer you to someone who can do the job for you. With the popularity of these vehicles constantly growing there are also many new dealerships and shops that specialize in these vacation vehicles. Having a comfortable vehicle to travel year round in or to just vacation in yearly is a great asset and can also be a great stress reliever. It is also a very popular vehicle for families to use on family camping trips, and the nice thing is that if the kids want to rough it while camping they can just sent their tents up right outside the RV.
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coloradohoosier
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oldtrucker63 wrote:
I think this plastic is about 6 mil also, I have been overlapping the ends and same at the top where the wall meets the ceiling, I think this will seal everything air tight, I never thought of using Acoustic sealant to seal them I wished I would have though but its to late for that, For the most part, I can still seal it at the floor and I will do that, I'm just trying to get everything air tight.


I'm not sure if you want it all air tight. One thing I haven't seen mentioned when talking about insulation and vapor barrier in houses is that ceilings always use non-faced insulation. You want excess moisture and humidity to exit the structure (this is also partly why attics are vented at the soffits and up high). Your roof ia already a sealed membrane, so you might be best off if you end your vabor barrier six or eight inches from the top of the walls, intentionally allowing a place for vapor to exit. I can't say for certain, but suggest you do more research before sealing it all too tight. I'd hate to see you end up with unwanted water condensation inside after you're all done.
I used to backpack.
I used to drive in, then sleep on the ground in a tent.
Now I have to climb all the way up on top of the cab!

oldtrucker63
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Sorry people I could not help myself.
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oldtrucker63
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Billy Bob and Bubba were buying some lumber for a job. They asked the guy at the lumber yard for some 2x4's.
"How long do you want them?" he asked
Billy Bob and Bubba stepped away for a minute and talked to each other, then they came back.
"Quite a while, we plan to build a house with them." said Bubba.:S
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oldtrucker63
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Billy Bob and Bubba were doing some carpenter work on a house.

Billy Bob who was nailing down house siding, would reach into his nail pouch, pull out a nail and either use it or throw it over his shoulder.

Bubba, figuring this was worth looking into, asked, "Why are you throwing those nails away??

Billy Bob explained, "When I pull out a nail out of my pouch, about half of them have the head on the wrong end, so I throw them away".

Bubba went ballistic and yelled, "You moron! Those nails aren't defective! They're for the other side of the house!":B
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oldtrucker63
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John H wrote:
A sketch of an idea can be very deceiving once that idea is then made into reality. But take real measurements of the length & width, TOP view & SIDE view, leaving nothing out in the surrounding area, that would pertain to the idea. Then put those measurements to a scale drawing. It often brings out problems that the idea/sketch/ would have never seen until into the construction phase. Erasing a line or lines on a piece of paper, is a whole lot cheaper than tearing down/out walls, Flustered, or the extra labor & expense of time. A architect scale ( triangle/three sided different scale sizes), a 30/60/90 degree plastic triangle (Only one triangle with the three degrees), a reasonable size drawing pad, honest & true measurements & a kitchen table. Can and does bring an idea into a reality focus. With out ever lifting a hammer. Putting a idea together, threw ones mind & a pencil there on that paper, makes the whole job easer. Then when a person gets to the stage of assembly with a hammer & sweat. You have in reality, all ready done it once, there in that kitchen. Oh one more thing, even if a person did not buy the bigger pad & has to tape sheets together, use the biggest scale on that ruler 3"= 1' 0". The idea/s will jump of the paper, once you get to going. On the scale 3"=a foot, (12") if you need, oh say,,, 4' 7" the scale is thus big enough, right there on that ruler's end because at this larger size the 7" can be easly seen & thus marked.


Have you ever herd the expression,," figures do not lie, but lairs figure", or,," junk in, junk out". It means how careful you do it the better off & honest will be the results. I promise you this, if you are true to taking very careful measurements ~~~~of say the length & width of your inside floor. EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING just as a bird above would see it. (Its called a plan view) Draw this onto you sheet first. Then the equipment, walls,,,what ever on to this floor plan, you will save your self in the long run a LOT of time, money, problems, and anger & then you will know if you idea will fit into the space you have. Use this drawing as a plan of assembly, take it out there and tape it to a wall, use it to chalk out on the floor where every thing goes. You will find it rewarding, and it WILL give you further ideas just by looking it over there on that kitchen table. My gosh Trucker sitting there is the whole Class C put together right there and you havent lifted a nail.
I know what your saying here and it is the best way of doing work like this, But when I started to put all this down on paper That is when all of my problems would start, You have to remember I got my education from the Interstate News.....LOL And would be lost with this all on paper, Although it is all in my head and I can lay it out with hammer and nails without getting half way through and saying OH Sh*t:S...LOL And then having to tear it apart and start over, It just takes a little of what I call simply Planing, I take all of the measurements time and time again, Only there stored in my head instead of on paper, It's the only way that I know how to do it and do it right, If someone was to lay out a blue print and say here build this, well there house would be a Outhouse...LOL But if someone sat down and said OK I would like to have this built like this and this to look like that, OK I can do this and make it look good and it would be built straight and strong and even up to code, I was raised building and remodeling houses and My Dad and my uncle was the two that was my teachers and this is the way they would build also the only time pen and paper was used was to do an cost estimate other that that a big carpenter pencil a good tape measure and a good brain with lots of storage, It's the only way I know.:B
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oldtrucker63
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Harveyj wrote:
First, let me say what a great job you are doing in bringing an older rig back to life.
I just finished reading the last few posts. That rear window that is going to be partially blocked......is that an emergency exit window?? I don't recall seeing another exit window in any of the pics..
If it is, you may want to re-think that wall.
Thanks for doing this "Blog"...fun to watch the progress.
Thank you,........No it's not an emergency exit, This old 79 did not have one to start with, But just in case, any one of the windows are big enough to climb out not counting the side windows on the overhead bunk and the rear window will still have enough room to climb out in the bath area and the bunk bed area, Would just have to break out the glass, Maybe with the good Lords will that will not come to pass.
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John_H
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A sketch of an idea can be very deceiving once that idea is then made into reality. But take real measurements of the length & width, TOP view & SIDE view, leaving nothing out in the surrounding area, that would pertain to the idea. Then put those measurements to a scale drawing. It often brings out problems that the idea/sketch/ would have never seen until into the construction phase. Erasing a line or lines on a piece of paper, is a whole lot cheaper than tearing down/out walls, Flustered, or the extra labor & expense of time. A architect scale ( triangle/three sided different scale sizes), a 30/60/90 degree plastic triangle (Only one triangle with the three degrees), a reasonable size drawing pad, honest & true measurements & a kitchen table. Can and does bring an idea into a reality focus. With out ever lifting a hammer. Putting a idea together, threw ones mind & a pencil there on that paper, makes the whole job easer. Then when a person gets to the stage of assembly with a hammer & sweat. You have in reality, all ready done it once, there in that kitchen. Oh one more thing, even if a person did not buy the bigger pad & has to tape sheets together, use the biggest scale on that ruler 3"= 1' 0". The idea/s will jump of the paper, once you get to going. On the scale 3"=a foot, (12") if you need, oh say,,, 4' 7" the scale is thus big enough, right there on that ruler's end because at this larger size the 7" can be easly seen & thus marked.


Have you ever herd the expression,," figures do not lie, but lairs figure", or,," junk in, junk out". It means how careful you do it the better off & honest will be the results. I promise you this, if you are true to taking very careful measurements ~~~~of say the length & width of your inside floor. EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING just as a bird above would see it. (Its called a plan view) Draw this onto you sheet first. Then the equipment, walls,,,what ever on to this floor plan, you will save your self in the long run a LOT of time, money, problems, and anger & then you will know if you idea will fit into the space you have. Use this drawing as a plan of assembly, take it out there and tape it to a wall, use it to chalk out on the floor where every thing goes. You will find it rewarding, and it WILL give you further ideas just by looking it over there on that kitchen table. My gosh Trucker sitting there is the whole Class C put together right there and you havent lifted a nail.
John H

Harveyj
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First, let me say what a great job you are doing in bringing an older rig back to life.
I just finished reading the last few posts. That rear window that is going to be partially blocked......is that an emergency exit window?? I don't recall seeing another exit window in any of the pics..
If it is, you may want to re-think that wall.
Thanks for doing this "Blog"...fun to watch the progress.

Biscuit1001
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oldtrucker63 wrote:
Glad to hear your RV is staying dry.


Me too! Especially since I'm (mostly) living in it. ๐Ÿ˜„

I'll defer to your experience on the tinted rear window legalities. I use my side mirrors but also use the windows, especially in a parking lot.

oldtrucker63
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John H wrote:
Is the drawing above to scale ?


I'm not sure what you mean Is it Scale... The drawing itself is about 1/4 scale,...LOL But still not sure what the question is.:h
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oldtrucker63
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Biscuit1001 wrote:
Amazing work! Thank you so much for taking the time to post all the photos, seeing the progress really helps. My concern would be being able to see out of the back window enough to be street legal. Obviously I can't speak of what the laws are in your state, but here in CA it's illegal to have any windows tinted/blacked out that are necessary to drive safely.

Thanks again for sharing your work with us, you're quite an inspiration. I'm still waiting to start mine, though I did get a 12x20' tarp over my RV which has stopped the leaks (yahhh!).

Thanks and your welcome, Glad to hear your RV is staying dry.


As with MOST States Kentucky has a law about window tint, But here it is only the driver and passenger side windows, You can Black out all of the rest of the windows, As for safety,..?? There is no need to see through that rear window from the driver seat, There is two west cost mirrors on the old dodge to see behind when your driving or backing so there should be no use for a rear window, Just my Opinion if someone is backing a RV and trying to look through the rear window to do so, It is a wreck waiting to happen, The west coast mirrors should be used at all times not a back window so myself I have no use for a rear window, After 25 years and 3.5 million miles in a tractor trailer its just a habit I never use the rear window Even in a car. And also the law can not say anything about a rear window being blocked, As long as the Vehicle has TWO Mirrors, One on the driver side and one on the passenger side. In Kentucky and most other states too.
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oldtrucker63
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OK Maybe this will explain how the rear will be built into the bath/shower and the bunk beds, Hope this helps to see what I can see.

RV Bath build plan
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John_H
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Is the drawing above to scale ?
John H

Biscuit1001
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Amazing work! Thank you so much for taking the time to post all the photos, seeing the progress really helps. My concern would be being able to see out of the back window enough to be street legal. Obviously I can't speak of what the laws are in your state, but here in CA it's illegal to have any windows tinted/blacked out that are necessary to drive safely.

Thanks again for sharing your work with us, you're quite an inspiration. I'm still waiting to start mine, though I did get a 12x20' tarp over my RV which has stopped the leaks (yahhh!).

oldtrucker63
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I'm going to do a Video today, It will show a lot better what is going on here, I will post it tonight.:h
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