What constitutes a "new" tire?

[fijidad]

I was dealing with a local supplier of Toyo tires and had an appointment set...until I told him I wanted the tires to be within 1 month of manufacture. That did not go over well and he said Toyo probably hasn't even made tires in 2021 yet, and that all that are available are tires from 2020.

So, why would one pay for new tires if they are not new?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[valhalla360]

Matt_Colie wrote:
I recently had to buy replacement tires ahead of schedule because of damage. I ordered them on line my long time supplier has changed hands and is now "Trucks Only". Of the two tires shipped, one was 8 months old and the other 13 months old. They were much less expensive than I last paid, but I am going to be looking for a new supplier when the oldest pair comes up for replacement.

Matt

13 months is getting a little old but with a sufficient discount, I would probably take them and just plan to replace them a year sooner.

[fijidad]

Ivylog wrote:
I would settle for tires up to 6 months old as new. Requiring one month, especially on a tire not made in the US is probably impossible. Only RVers are obsessed with the age of tires, especially if you replace at 6-7 years.

Thanks Ivylog. This is the first time I'll be replacing tires on a MH, so appreciate the well-reasoned response.

[ksg5000]

When I purchased my Toyo's I told the dealer that they should not be older than 3 months. Dealer told me I would have to wait a week or so - NBD.

[Matt_Colie]

valhalla360 wrote:

CapriRacer wrote:
It is a commonly held belief within the tire industry that any tire within 6 years of the manufacture date can be sold as "NEW". I say "belief" because I know of no data that supports (or denies) this.

6 yrs or 6 months.

I seriously doubt you could get a manufacture to go on record saying a 6yr old tire is like new.

Also, are you talking about legally or realistically? Legally, new products that have not been sold before are considered "new". Find a dealer with a 1985 Ford Ranger that's been sitting at the back of the lot never sold, the dealer can legitimately sell it as new but realistically, they aren't going to lie and say it's a 2021 model.

I recently had to buy replacement tires ahead of schedule because of damage. I ordered them on line my long time supplier has changed hands and is now "Trucks Only". Of the two tires shipped, one was 8 months old and the other 13 months old. They were much less expensive than I last paid, but I am going to be looking for a new supplier when the oldest pair comes up for replacement.

Matt

[valhalla360]

CapriRacer wrote:
It is a commonly held belief within the tire industry that any tire within 6 years of the manufacture date can be sold as "NEW". I say "belief" because I know of no data that supports (or denies) this.

6 yrs or 6 months.

I seriously doubt you could get a manufacture to go on record saying a 6yr old tire is like new.

Also, are you talking about legally or realistically? Legally, new products that have not been sold before are considered "new". Find a dealer with a 1985 Ford Ranger that's been sitting at the back of the lot never sold, the dealer can legitimately sell it as new but realistically, they aren't going to lie and say it's a 2021 model.

[CapriRacer]

It is a commonly held belief within the tire industry that any tire within 6 years of the manufacture date can be sold as "NEW". I say "belief" because I know of no data that supports (or denies) this.

However, the tire manufacturer I worked for did test 3 year old tires and could find no performance difference to freshly made tires.

So not only is a month a deal breaker from the tire dealer's perspective, I doubt that the tire dealer could actually get a tire that fast through normal channels.

[valhalla360]

dodge guy wrote:
How many people have bought a new car that was sitting on the lot for 9 months to a year?
Tires 6 months old sitting in a warehouse will b just fine!

Assuming the OP is buying trailer tires (no idea if toyo makes any), it's relevant....but the OP going way beyond the pale with a 1 month requirement.

For cars/trucks, most tires wear out when the tread is gone long before they age out. It would be unusual to get to 5yrs before wearing out a pair.

Trailer tires on the other hand often have good tread at 6-8yrs old but the material has aged out to the point they are no longer reliable.

But again, expecting 1 month is silly and unrealistic.

[Ranger_Smith]

fijidad wrote:
I was dealing with a local supplier of Toyo tires and had an appointment set...until I told him I wanted the tires to be within 1 month of manufacture. That did not go over well

Good Luck with that . . . 6 Months no problem.

[JoeH]

Tires I purchased in November were made in Germany ( Michelins) and 3 months old when I got them... that was OK by me.

[GDS-3950BH]

fijidad wrote:
I was dealing with a local supplier of Toyo tires and had an appointment set...until I told him I wanted the tires to be within 1 month of manufacture. That did not go over well.

Really?

[dodge_guy]

How many people have bought a new car that was sitting on the lot for 9 months to a year?
Tires 6 months old sitting in a warehouse will b just fine!

[grldst]

Bill.Satellite wrote:
They are new! Where is Toyo manufactured? If it's still Japan, how would you expect to find tires that are a month old? I have not looked into Toyo in many years so if they are now US built (not just distributed) I apologize!

Big TOYO tire plant about 20 miles north of Atlanta. Don't know just what tire sizes are made there but its a big plant.

Tires date stamped 6-9 months old are fine.

[rhagfo]

MarkTwain wrote:
I would go another dealer. I buy all my tires from Les Schwab. I won't buy a tire older than 6 months.

OP is looking at a max of ONE month, tough order.
I agree six months is new.

[MarkTwain]

I would go another dealer. I buy all my tires from Les Schwab. I won't buy a tire older than 6 months.

[opnspaces]

Yeah one month is unreasonable.