Mar-31-2014 04:25 PM
Apr-04-2014 04:56 PM
JimM68 wrote:
Thanks for your thanks.
Important to note that the DP vs gasser discussion really doesn't have anything to do with how many miles you drive. It's really a question of how much you are willing to spend. while newer gassers are better than the '99 F53 we had, it's still factual that a DP is better. Stronger, quieter, better on the road and more highly optioned and appointed. That is simply why they cost more. Not putting down any of my gasser brothers, we all buy what fits us best, for any number of reasons.
Floorplan is gonna be the key. Us, we wanted a separate bath, not a walkthrough, and considered anything with a TV covered by a slideout or 2 TV's in the same room to be simply silly. And that is how we ended up with out Monaco 40 SKQ. Others will have different needs and different opinions. Not wrong, just different.
Apr-04-2014 03:49 PM
Apr-04-2014 02:47 PM
JimM68 wrote:
Good post. good questions and some good answers.
You mentioned quality. Thor and forest River are generally though of as "entry level manufacturers"
Fleetwood, Winnebago, Itasca, and Tiffin are a step above.
Monaco & Newmar another step above.
Foretravel, Bluebird, and prevost, top of the chart.
It is true that most RV's use all the same systems and appliances.
It's also true that an ISB chassis, even a newer 6.7, is not in the same league with an ISC or ISL based chassis.
And Monaco... well you asked the wrong guy about that. I am a huge fan of Monaco's Roadmaster 8 air bag chassis. Unlike a skinny truck chassis with a trailing arm suspension, Roadmaster air bags are way out at the road. Foretravel uses a similar design at a much higher price point. Our Knight rides smooth and solid, and laughs at crosswinds and trucks we are passing.
On the emissions stuff, DEF fluid came in in 2010. In 2008 they started DPF particulate filters. We have that one and I hate it.
when we were shopping, we saw floorplans my DW liked in a new Itasca that we couldn't afford, and a new Berkshire and a sportcoach that we could.
I found a 3 year old Monaco with a similar floorplan and bought it for the same price, and never looked back.
Apr-04-2014 12:58 PM
hanko wrote:X-2
getting pretty deep on this thread
Apr-04-2014 12:53 PM
Apr-04-2014 12:44 PM
Apr-04-2014 12:37 PM
hershey wrote:
Tiffin has probably the best customer service of any. Plus they make really nice looking MH's.
Apr-04-2014 12:07 PM
Apr-04-2014 11:21 AM
FordDiesel250 wrote:
Oops! I thought they meant a diesel engine for a power plant in a towing vehicle. My bad
THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT
Apr-04-2014 08:24 AM
OhhWell wrote:
Interesting. When would you say the 90's fleetwoods stopped being fecal matter, when the F53 V10 came out? Ours is nothing luxurious but it is very well built and I believe was considered a best-buy in the late 90s / early 2000s.
Apr-04-2014 07:40 AM
Apr-04-2014 04:33 AM
Bruce Brown wrote:J-Rooster wrote:RayChez wrote:I owned a Fleetwood in the 90's and there shop service was excellent!Dollo wrote:
The kids, we have a 9 year old and a 13 year old, want the 38 ft bunkhouse. I would like the extra half bath that comes with the 38ft non-bunkhouse model.
We looked at the Itasca Meridan and the Solei models, in the same 38ft length. The 2014 Itasca's come in white seating, only. Not a godo mix with kids.
I am looking for a manufacturer that is known for quality. We would like to stay around 38 feet. I am hoping for a consus like "Tiffen is the way to go" and/or Avoid Fleetwood diesels, or guidance like that.
We were offered the Red in the bunkhouse model for $200k, and wonder if we could do better than that if we go that direction also.
Not true about avoiding Fleetwood. I have never owned one but Fleetwood like any other company makes entry level coaches and then they also manufacture high end coaches such as the Eagle. You can not find a better coach then a Eagle. Tiffin does not even come close to the quality of the high end Fleetwood coaches which used to be American coach lines.
The "avoid Fleetwood" was a question guys - not a statement.
Having said that Fleetwood of the 90's has nothing to do with Fleetwood of today - two totally seperate companies.
We owned a Fleetwood back in the 90's, biggest turd ever made. By most accounts the new Fleetwood is doing a nice job. I wouldn't touch an older Fleetwood, even an American, I wouldn't be afraid of a new Fleetwood at all.
Apr-04-2014 04:28 AM
J-Rooster wrote:RayChez wrote:I owned a Fleetwood in the 90's and there shop service was excellent!Dollo wrote:
The kids, we have a 9 year old and a 13 year old, want the 38 ft bunkhouse. I would like the extra half bath that comes with the 38ft non-bunkhouse model.
We looked at the Itasca Meridan and the Solei models, in the same 38ft length. The 2014 Itasca's come in white seating, only. Not a godo mix with kids.
I am looking for a manufacturer that is known for quality. We would like to stay around 38 feet. I am hoping for a consus like "Tiffen is the way to go" and/or Avoid Fleetwood diesels, or guidance like that.
We were offered the Red in the bunkhouse model for $200k, and wonder if we could do better than that if we go that direction also.
Not true about avoiding Fleetwood. I have never owned one but Fleetwood like any other company makes entry level coaches and then they also manufacture high end coaches such as the Eagle. You can not find a better coach then a Eagle. Tiffin does not even come close to the quality of the high end Fleetwood coaches which used to be American coach lines.
Apr-03-2014 10:12 PM