CW generator - Champion 4000

[mhawk4]

Just bought a new generator for the TT, it is the Champion 4000 from CW. We were going for the inverter but the price was too high for our budget; for $300 hundred got the champion and will be able to run the AC( 13500btu) when too hot outside and the wife will be very happy 😉

I am planning to attach (bolted) it to the rear cargo carrier when needed. We are planning to do some short road trips and not depend on staying in CGs. Where do you guys stay when using this type of generator? Any issues? Do you have it mounted to your trailer?

If for any reason i have to mod the unit to make it quieter, any suggestions?

I will have more questions about it; Thanks for your input.

[96Bounder30E]

Time to close this one...

[mhawk4]

Thank you for all the feedback and sharing your knowledge and experiences.
To make it clear, the generator is not intended to be use in CGs. When we travel we spend time in rest stops and/or truck stops and it can get very hot here in the south specially trying to take a nap before getting back on the road. Also with my job schedule, sometime i would like to pick up and go ( maybe to the beach or the mountains) without the need of having to look for a campground.
The generator fits our budget and our plans of travel. Hope we do not keep you awake when you hear the ice dropping from our portable ice maker. Lol

Hope you guys are having a great night where ever you are.

Luis

PS. NC Hauler, we are two hours away - we are in the Grenville/Anderson area. let me know if you come down to lake Hartwell.

[NC_Hauler]

Desert Captain wrote:
"No, I don't see your point, nor did you catch mine..The "snippet" you quoted wasn't directed at you.. If you didn't like my post, you should have skipped over them, you could block me and never see any of them...I spoke to post being made about "obnoxious" people who run their LOUD generators and some comments were down right spiteful...Forgive me for having caused you to have read through all the muck...and that you deemed them worthless to the original post...Glad you're in here to judge what can and cannot be said by others and rate them on your scale of approval...goes back to the looking down one's nose at others when they....., (pick a topic or a reason that suits you".


As the one who you did direct your tirade at permit me to point out that the only timeI I used the word "obnoxious" in any of my posts was:

"Yes, folks with a red or blue can be just as obnoxious (excessive running and quiet time violations), as the folks running the yellows but that is not about generators as much as it is about being less than considerate."

Wow, was that spiteful or what???

Generator selection comes down to how and where you are going to use it, not to mention pay for it. Since folks often actually come here to learn things differing opinions will always have value. The $300 Champion may be perfect for someone's use but it will never be the equal of a $1,000 generator. If it were there would be nothing but Champions and Honda, Yamaha etc., would be out of the generator business which clearly is not the case.

My Computer, TV and C-Pap machine (along with lots of other appliances and electronics), all warn against the use of anything less than the clean power provided by quality inverter generators. They also warn against using non sine wave inverters but that would/could be a whole new thread.

Once again I will point out:

As always Opinions and YMMV.

:C

I'm glad my computer, television and sound system didn't read those warnings:)...I apologize for the bother, you are correct and I am wrong...I've misspoken and clearly don't know what I'm talking about. I'm sorry for the derailing of this thread....Again, if you block me you will never have to read another one of my post.....MMWD.

[Desert_Captain]

"No, I don't see your point, nor did you catch mine..The "snippet" you quoted wasn't directed at you.. If you didn't like my post, you should have skipped over them, you could block me and never see any of them...I spoke to post being made about "obnoxious" people who run their LOUD generators and some comments were down right spiteful...Forgive me for having caused you to have read through all the muck...and that you deemed them worthless to the original post...Glad you're in here to judge what can and cannot be said by others and rate them on your scale of approval...goes back to the looking down one's nose at others when they....., (pick a topic or a reason that suits you".


As the one who you did direct your tirade at permit me to point out that the only timeI I used the word "obnoxious" in any of my posts was:

"Yes, folks with a red or blue can be just as obnoxious (excessive running and quiet time violations), as the folks running the yellows but that is not about generators as much as it is about being less than considerate."

Wow, was that spiteful or what???

Generator selection comes down to how and where you are going to use it, not to mention pay for it. Since folks often actually come here to learn things differing opinions will always have value. The $300 Champion may be perfect for someone's use but it will never be the equal of a $1,000 generator. If it were there would be nothing but Champions and Honda, Yamaha etc., would be out of the generator business which clearly is not the case.

My Computer, TV and C-Pap machine (along with lots of other appliances and electronics), all warn against the use of anything less than the clean power provided by quality inverter generators. They also warn against using non sine wave inverters but that would/could be a whole new thread.

Once again I will point out:

As always Opinions and YMMV.

:C

[NC_Hauler]

BubbaChris wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

It's obvious you have decided to look down your nose at those who have one of these units...

I'd like to respectfully disagree with your follow-on posts.

When you open up a multi-day old thread with a line like this and then proceed to use an "only at home, in a real emergency, away from anyone who can hear" example, it took this particular discussion into half-again as many pages that were worthless to the original post.

I sincerely hope you can see my point.

Best regards,
Chris

No, I don't see your point, nor did you catch mine..The "snippet" you quoted wasn't directed at you.. If you didn't like my post, you should have skipped over them, you could block me and never see any of them...I spoke to post being made about "obnoxious" people who run their LOUD generators and some comments were down right spiteful...Forgive me for having caused you to have read through all the muck...and that you deemed them worthless to the original post...Glad you're in here to judge what can and cannot be said by others and rate them on your scale of approval...goes back to the looking down one's nose at others when they....., (pick a topic or a reason that suits you".

[NC_Hauler]

2oldman wrote:

JiminDenver wrote:
So why is louder and red so much more acceptable? Why aren't the people using the twin reds not being jumped on for not using the quieter EU3000is? I guess expensive noise is just more acceptable. Maybe having your nose in the air changes the angle of the ears and that makes it quieter. lol

As I may have mentioned earlier, it's not necessarily the dbs, it's the kind of noise that cuts through everything.

The 3000 won't run what 2 2ks will. Expensive noise is slightly less annoying at full throttle, and when the a/c is off, we know we're going to get much quieter than the open-frames running full bore all the time. It's really not very common to see inverter gens running at full throttle for very long. I won't comment on the nose in the air.

It's good for me if I do my best to avoid being within earshot of any open-frames because complaining is going to get me nowhere. I'll try to be happy for them that they saved a few hundred dollars.

Don't have to comment on the "nose in the air"....wasn't directed at you....I merely stated that some can afford the Honda's and the Yamaha's and some can only afford the champions at a fraction of the cost....I would only use mine in a power loss situation, and only when I'd absolutely have to....It wouldn't be in a campground unless I just happen to be at a campground when that happened....I doubt there would be a revolt and one would be thrown out of the campground because a Champion Generator was keeping someones' fridge going and providing electricity for them....

I"ve heard "open frame commercial gen's", which the champion 3500/4000 isn't....The one that was about a 1/2 mile from my campsite, (give or take a couple hundred yards), was loud, but I sure didn't begrudge the people for using it....guess you had to be in that disaster area to understand.....

[BubbaChris]

NC Hauler wrote:

It's obvious you have decided to look down your nose at those who have one of these units...

I'd like to respectfully disagree with your follow-on posts.

When you open up a multi-day old thread with a line like this and then proceed to use an "only at home, in a real emergency, away from anyone who can hear" example, it took this particular discussion into half-again as many pages that were worthless to the original post.

I sincerely hope you can see my point.

Best regards,
Chris

[2oldman]

JiminDenver wrote:
So why is louder and red so much more acceptable? Why aren't the people using the twin reds not being jumped on for not using the quieter EU3000is? I guess expensive noise is just more acceptable. Maybe having your nose in the air changes the angle of the ears and that makes it quieter. lol

As I may have mentioned earlier, it's not necessarily the dbs, it's the kind of noise that cuts through everything.

The 3000 won't run what 2 2ks will. Expensive noise is slightly less annoying at full throttle, and when the a/c is off, we know we're going to get much quieter than the open-frames running full bore all the time. It's really not very common to see inverter gens running at full throttle for very long. I won't comment on the nose in the air.

It's good for me if I do my best to avoid being within earshot of any open-frames because complaining is going to get me nowhere. I'll try to be happy for them that they saved a few hundred dollars.

[NC_Hauler]

^^^^Pretty good analogy Jim:)

[JiminDenver]

I find that double standard interesting too Mr Wizard. One poster tested a pair of Honda 2000i running the Air vs a Champ. The twins were actually louder at 70 Db than the Champ at 68 Db. (put a supergen ten on the Champ and it's 65 Db)

So why is louder and red so much more acceptable? Why aren't the people using the twin reds not being jumped on for not using the quieter EU3000is? I guess expensive noise is just more acceptable. Maybe having your nose in the air changes the angle of the ears and that makes it quieter. lol

All I know is you can spend a small fortune to be as quiet as a mouse, in our case silent with solar. That just means you get to listen to someone else run their generator.

[NC_Hauler]

MrWizard wrote:

The Champion can NOT do the same job as a Honda or Yamaha. It is not an inverter type generator and will fry sensitive electronics/appliances

This Is Pure B.S.

and has been proven wrong too many times to count

are they louder than a honda 2000i charging batteries ? yes

are they louder than (2) synced 2000i's running an A/C unit ? ..not enough to matter

the Honda Holy grail crowd needs to get their collective heads out of the honda cool aid glass and listen to the real world

Thank you MrWizard...(I watched him on TV when I was a kid:))....

[MrWizard]

The Champion can NOT do the same job as a Honda or Yamaha. It is not an inverter type generator and will fry sensitive electronics/appliances

This Is Pure B.S.

and has been proven wrong too many times to count

are they louder than a honda 2000i charging batteries ? yes

are they louder than (2) synced 2000i's running an A/C unit ? ..not enough to matter

the Honda Holy grail crowd needs to get their collective heads out of the honda cool aid glass and listen to the real world

[NC_Hauler]

JiminDenver wrote:
The Champs are unreliable? New one on me. I see more "my Honda wont start" threads than issues with Champions.

The Champion will fry the electronics? Actually there is a scope of one of the Champion 3500/4000 120v only units in the 3000w generator thread. It is cleaner/ smoother than you would expect. Much cleaner than the inverter generator that HF sells. The dual voltage units do have a ugly wave.

I will say that after spending the money I didn't waste on the big red generator on a solar system and batteries, that it is funny to watch someone with a generator thump their chest because their noise maker is slightly less annoying than the next one.

I see people say that they would be knocking on doors if their neighbor uses something louder than they have. So what happens when a person with solar comes knocking on your door? Gee dude, I don't care what color it is, it's time to shut her down. We'd like some peace and quiet, not peace and quieter.

The problem with jumping on a soap box is there is always someone with a bigger one. There plenty of people that can go a week on battery alone or have solar. To them any generator is annoying.

Jim, don't waste your breath....I basically stated the same thing, going on first hand usage..3 yrs old 3500/4000 that was used for a solid week, running at some times 24 hrs a day because it was EXTREMELY hot and humid....Never an issue with the $300 generator.

good post..

[NC_Hauler]

spoon059 wrote:

Desert Captain wrote:
The many issues have been addressed and I have yet to see any reasonable objections to them being used while boon docking or for emergency power during natural catastrophes. Bang for the buck they work quite well in those applications.

The problems arise when folks trying to justify their use in campgrounds influence others who don't know any better.

:C

And I don't recall anyone advocating for using them in a campground with others around. The question was using it in non-campground settings. I think everyone understands your thoughts and feelings on the Champion generators. Your point has been made.

Can we allow this thread to get back on topic now please?

Exactly....nor did "I" recommend it...I was just talking about a generator to use in case of emergency usage...like I do....I don't need to spend 2 or 3k for a generator when I rarely, if ever use it....I now have the champion 7500/9000 that IF need be...it'll power entire 5er and it works great at my stick built also in case of power outage.