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Got a new Toad

traveylin
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Finally retired the 13 year old S-10 toad as it was getting to unreliable for use away from the home base. The last couple trips I made a point of bringing the title with use so that I could abandon it if necessary at a junkie.

The new toad is a 2012 GMC Canyon with 4 wheel drive. Its relatively lite compared to full size vehicle yet the cabin is large enough to allow the wife and I easy access. Setting up to tow requires pushing a couple of buttons to putt the transfer case in neutral. The steering wheel is not locked so no need to leave the key in acc. drawing down the battery.

After 20000 miles of towing the s-10 and a lot of research, the Canyon fit my needs better than any other vehicle. As they are no longer made by GM, I did a nation wide search through Carmax to find the exact vehicle. Located it in Denver, shipped it to San Antonio and took about 20 minutes to complete the deal. 19 minutes of which was required to clear the check for the purchase.

Base plate has arrived and will be installed by auto repair shop next Monday. I installed the last one and just do not feel like working underneath vehicles anymore.

Blue ox tow bar was sent off to Blue ox customer service yesterday for refurbishment.

All thats left is figuring out the running lights. The s-10 I had added bulbs to the original tail lite fixtures but the new canyon does not appear to have enough room. Might make some bolt on trailer lite mounts with the cable run to close proximity. When not in toad use, they would be dismounted.

2014 is looking up to be a good year


pops
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bocanut50
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I have a 2008 Roadmaster Even Brake for sale for your new toad, although it was only used for 2 years. Excellent condition, all parts included, great price. Contact me directly via instant message.
Bill Stiles
2003 Discovery 38T
2013 Ford Edge SEL

Heisenberg
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The Wranglers on my Wrangler are a good quiet ride.
2013 Winnebago Sightseer
2017 Colorado

traveylin
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The 4 wheel drive canyon will be a huge improvement as the DW and I like traveling the roads less frequented. Tires are highway style and I will be looking for something with a bit more grip but not noisey nobbies

pops

traveylin
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I have seen the kits to adapt the OEM lites to RV signal sourcing and accept that they work...But they use them things called diodes, which were not part of the curriculum in the 60's when I took the required 2 semesters of electrical engineering. I also do not like household wiring circuits with parallel switches and am very careful in wiring 230 volt circuits in Y or delta configuration.
A parallel boat trailer type toad liting circuit is very simple to understand and trouble shoot, esp under the gaze of a DPS trooper asking why the lites are not functioning. Mounting the additional bulbs/fixtures using magnets/removable brackets are reasonable workarounds.
To each his own solution

imgoin4it
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I would go ahead and use the OEM lights on the truck, but I thought I might do in the future is mount lights on the truck using the hitch receiver.(If you have one) would have to make up a bar arrangement to go into the receiver and plug into the motor home like mag lights. Then just take it out when not in tow
Howard,Connie,& Bella,
One spoiled schnauzer
2007 Newmar KSDP
4dr Jeep Wrangler

pa_traveler
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Sounds like a nice toad

FIRE_UP
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Ka Ron wrote:
The Texan wrote:
Ka Ron wrote:
Why not use the existing lights?
We tow a Pontiac Sunfire and the rear lights of the car are wired to a plug on the front that plugs into the back of the motor home.
Quick, easy and neat.
Probably because GM will void the electrical portion of the warranty if you cut into the wiring to hook up toad lights. Have that in writing from GM, when we bought out new toad and asked the dealer to install the lights.


Well, there you go, I never even thought of that in 2002 when we bought the car. Guess we were lucky or had a good mechanic do the wiring as we never had a problem.

Good idea to check though.


I don't know why people panic when the suggestion to use the stock tail lights is mentioned. There's probably thousands of RVers out there that do it that way, including myself. I've towed 10 different toads utilizing the stock tail light bulbs and never, repeat NEVER, FRIED any portion of any wiring. Not to mention, the entire planet is "fused" so, even if there's the slightest chance of a short, the fuse takes care of it. It's incredibly easy to do and, when done, anyone following your toad sees "Natural" action of the lights which, include all the correct brake lights and AMBER turn signals if and when equipped.

Everyone's got their own choice in how a toad's wired so, it's a matter of preference.

To the OP, wiring your new toad utilizing the stock tail lights is phenomenally easy and, you'll have no need to "disconnect" or remove any auxiliary lights when it's not a toad. Your choice.
Scott

P.S. The cost of doing it this way is about as minimal as it gets.
Scott and Karla
SDFD RETIRED
2004 Itasca Horizon, 36GD Slate Blue 330 CAT
2011 GMC Sierra 1500 Ext Cab 4x4 Toad
2008 Caliente Red LVL II GL 1800 Goldwing
KI60ND

Ka_Ron
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The Texan wrote:
Ka Ron wrote:
Why not use the existing lights?
We tow a Pontiac Sunfire and the rear lights of the car are wired to a plug on the front that plugs into the back of the motor home.
Quick, easy and neat.
Probably because GM will void the electrical portion of the warranty if you cut into the wiring to hook up toad lights. Have that in writing from GM, when we bought out new toad and asked the dealer to install the lights.


Well, there you go, I never even thought of that in 2002 when we bought the car. Guess we were lucky or had a good mechanic do the wiring as we never had a problem.

Good idea to check though.

lanerd
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What!!! No supplemental brakes???? Shame, shame, shame.
Ron & Sandie
2013 Tiffin Phaeton 42LH Cummins ISL 400hp
Toad: 2011 GMC Terrain SLT2
Tow Bar: Sterling AT
Toad Brakes: Unified by U.S. Gear
TPMS: Pressure Pro
Member of: GS, FMCA, Allegro


RETIRED!! How sweet it is....

The_Texan
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Ka Ron wrote:
Why not use the existing lights?
We tow a Pontiac Sunfire and the rear lights of the car are wired to a plug on the front that plugs into the back of the motor home.
Quick, easy and neat.
Probably because GM will void the electrical portion of the warranty if you cut into the wiring to hook up toad lights. Have that in writing from GM, when we bought out new toad and asked the dealer to install the lights.

Bob & Betsy - USN Aviation Ret'd '78 & LEO Ret'd '03 & "Oath Keeper Forever"


2005 HR Endeavor 40PRQ, '11 Silverado LT, Ex Cab 6.2L NHT 4x4, w/2017 Rzr 4-900 riding in 16+' enclosed trailer in back.
Where the wheels are stopped today

Ka_Ron
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Why not use the existing lights?
We tow a Pontiac Sunfire and the rear lights of the car are wired to a plug on the front that plugs into the back of the motor home.
Quick, easy and neat.

mleekamp
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I don't tow a toad, but the Canyon is a decent vehicle. I have the cousin -- the Colorado. Reliable and actually not bad to drive.

The_Texan
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I bought a set of "wireless magnetic" lights to use on our toad. They do cost a little more, but work very well and are easy to store when not in use.

Bob & Betsy - USN Aviation Ret'd '78 & LEO Ret'd '03 & "Oath Keeper Forever"


2005 HR Endeavor 40PRQ, '11 Silverado LT, Ex Cab 6.2L NHT 4x4, w/2017 Rzr 4-900 riding in 16+' enclosed trailer in back.
Where the wheels are stopped today