Pet peeve, neighbors leave porch light on

[DC_MC]

This drives us crazy. Nice night and we’d like to leave windows open for air but are forced to close shades tight because of a porch light aiming right at us. You’d think in the close quarters of most RV parks that people could be more considerate

[qtla9111]

Boondocking eliminates all these issues.

[fj12ryder]

mooky stinks wrote:

toedtoes wrote:
But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground. So, if the campground has no artificial lighting then leaving a porch light on all night would be a no-no. If there are lights outside the restrooms that are on all night, then a porch light would be reasonable. If there are "street lights", then additional lighting would be acceptable.

And the campground may have different sections that differ in what's acceptable. A campground I visit often is like that. When you drive in, there is a long stretch with full hookup sites and "street lights". Around a corner is a loop with just electric and water. This loop has no " street lights" but has an outdoor light at the restrooms. Another section is dry, but has the outdoor bathroom light. The loop I stay at is dry, no "street lights", and a vault toilet with no lights at all. Across the road are three group sites with varying degrees of lighting.

If someone came to " my" loop and left their porch light on all night, I'd take issue. But it'd be fine in the other sections.

I can’t believe what I just read

Seemed pretty straight forward and reasonable. Can't wrap your head around that?

[ktmrfs]

dedmiston wrote:

ktmrfs wrote:
Every campground we have been at "quite time" means that and nothing more. Doesn't mean "no lights" doesn't mean "must be inside" doesn't mean "campfire out" doesn't mean you and friends can't be outside playing cards, or conversing around the campfire. Just means being polite and conversing in a normal voice and no music.

My understanding is "no generators and no loud voices".

yup, exactly, forgot to mention the generator. It's quite time, not "Silent night"

[dedmiston]

ktmrfs wrote:
Every campground we have been at "quite time" means that and nothing more. Doesn't mean "no lights" doesn't mean "must be inside" doesn't mean "campfire out" doesn't mean you and friends can't be outside playing cards, or conversing around the campfire. Just means being polite and conversing in a normal voice and no music.

My understanding is "no generators and no loud voices".

[ktmrfs]

cummins2014 wrote:

kfp673 wrote:

mdcamping wrote:
Had an similar issue with a neighbors light that was shining through our tent end when we were tuning in for the night. I politely asked them turn off the light as they were fine with it. problem solved.

I'll put up a string of lights, I just unplug when I turn in, notice most other folks do the same, no worries.

Mike

I think this type of polite communication is key, but it is important to remember it is a 2 way street. My family (kids included) are night people. So if your "turn in" time is 9 or 10, I'm sorry but my light is staying on. 11 or 12 when we go in and they 100% go off. Everyone should be flexible, but also willing to communicate. Now if a neighbor leaves it on all night (we have all forgotten and done it), a quick reminder and I'm sure 99% will say no problem.

Quiet time in most RV parks I have been in is 10 pm. I would think that means sitting out talking ,lights on etc. I suppose if you guys are whispering sitting in the dark that works, but its doubtful you do . Most expect whatever is going on until quiet time, but after that its time to shut it down . We are talking about outside lights here, I'm sure whatever lights are on inside is not a problem.

Every campground we have been at "quite time" means that and nothing more. Doesn't mean "no lights" doesn't mean "must be inside" doesn't mean "campfire out" doesn't mean you and friends can't be outside playing cards, or conversing around the campfire. Just means being polite and conversing in a normal voice and no music.

And in 30+ years of camping we have NEVER EVER had a camp host, ranger, camp host, or another camper complain or express ANY issues about our "behavior" during quiet hours.


In the evenings we keep some outside lights on, and in campgrounds w/o electric or any lights near dark we turn on the outside porch light even if we are at another campsite. Helps find your way home if you forget a flashlight! On a moonless night it can get real dark. But once we retire inside, outside porch light is off for the night. And by "porch light" I'm referring to the single (in our case yellow) lamp by the door, not a string of LED lights under the awning or big white outdoor lights.

[dedmiston]

NRALIFR wrote:

dedmiston wrote:
………I've never been so glad to see a pump though.

That’s why I always carry me a little extra. It’s saved my bacon more than once.

Little can is for the generator, big can is for the truck.



:):)

Yep. I keep two yellow jugs in the bed of my truck: an old nasty one for starting campfires and a clean(er) new(er) one for filling the truck. It's a booger to remember to cycle it through and keep the fuel fresh though.

Our toy hauler also has two fuel tanks and a pump. One tank is for the generator and the other is for the fuel station to refill the off-road car. Or in a pinch, I can pump from the aux tank to fill the gen tank. Those tanks don't do my pickup any good though, because the truck takes diesel.

[NRALIFR]

dedmiston wrote:
………I've never been so glad to see a pump though.

That’s why I always carry me a little extra. It’s saved my bacon more than once.

Little can is for the generator, big can is for the truck.



:):)

[dedmiston]

mooky stinks wrote:

toedtoes wrote:
But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground. So, if the campground has no artificial lighting then leaving a porch light on all night would be a no-no. If there are lights outside the restrooms that are on all night, then a porch light would be reasonable. If there are "street lights", then additional lighting would be acceptable.

And the campground may have different sections that differ in what's acceptable. A campground I visit often is like that. When you drive in, there is a long stretch with full hookup sites and "street lights". Around a corner is a loop with just electric and water. This loop has no " street lights" but has an outdoor light at the restrooms. Another section is dry, but has the outdoor bathroom light. The loop I stay at is dry, no "street lights", and a vault toilet with no lights at all. Across the road are three group sites with varying degrees of lighting.

If someone came to " my" loop and left their porch light on all night, I'd take issue. But it'd be fine in the other sections.

I can’t believe what I just read

I don't follow you. What's wrong with his post?

[dedmiston]

toedtoes wrote:
For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground.

We stayed at a quirky little place in the middle of nowhere called Rusty's RV Ranch near Rodeo, NM that had a weird "lighting protocol". They literally prohibited any exterior lighting and required you to draw your blinds at night to contain any interior light sources. They catered to amateur astronomers and guaranteed no light pollution. They even loaned everyone in your group a red flashlight to help you find your way to the hot tub at night.

There was only one astronomer there, but he was pretty hardcore. He had a toy hauler with tens of thousands of dollars worth of gear in the garage of his hauler. Pretty impressive.

Rusty's was one of the coolest RV parks we ever saw. The spaces were massive and you were nowhere near your nearest neighbor. My only gripe was how remote the place was. We coasted into Rusty's on fumes and found out that the closest place to fill up was ten miles away at a place that wasn't even really a gas station. It was just a pump in the middle of a lot. No canopy, no c-store, no nothing. It just had a light post and a CCTV camera pointed at you. I've never been so glad to see a pump though.

[toedtoes]

Why? What is so unreasonable with what I said?

[mooky_stinks]

toedtoes wrote:
But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground. So, if the campground has no artificial lighting then leaving a porch light on all night would be a no-no. If there are lights outside the restrooms that are on all night, then a porch light would be reasonable. If there are "street lights", then additional lighting would be acceptable.

And the campground may have different sections that differ in what's acceptable. A campground I visit often is like that. When you drive in, there is a long stretch with full hookup sites and "street lights". Around a corner is a loop with just electric and water. This loop has no " street lights" but has an outdoor light at the restrooms. Another section is dry, but has the outdoor bathroom light. The loop I stay at is dry, no "street lights", and a vault toilet with no lights at all. Across the road are three group sites with varying degrees of lighting.

If someone came to " my" loop and left their porch light on all night, I'd take issue. But it'd be fine in the other sections.

I can’t believe what I just read

[BCSnob]

toedtoes wrote:
But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?
.

imo it’s both

[toedtoes]

But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground. So, if the campground has no artificial lighting then leaving a porch light on all night would be a no-no. If there are lights outside the restrooms that are on all night, then a porch light would be reasonable. If there are "street lights", then additional lighting would be acceptable.

And the campground may have different sections that differ in what's acceptable. A campground I visit often is like that. When you drive in, there is a long stretch with full hookup sites and "street lights". Around a corner is a loop with just electric and water. This loop has no " street lights" but has an outdoor light at the restrooms. Another section is dry, but has the outdoor bathroom light. The loop I stay at is dry, no "street lights", and a vault toilet with no lights at all. Across the road are three group sites with varying degrees of lighting.

If someone came to " my" loop and left their porch light on all night, I'd take issue. But it'd be fine in the other sections.

[BCSnob]

Does one go to a campground to experience that campground’s environment or does one go to a campground and expect that campground to change its environment to meet your expectations?

Just like don’t move to the country and expect it to feel like the suburbs.

If the campground has closely spaced sites expect neighbors to be close and they may leave their lights on.

[toedtoes]

BCSnob wrote:
You all have missed the point; they’re motel 6 and have left the light on for you. Go check in.

In over 20 years of traveling with our TTs we’ve never stayed in a campground. If there is a flood light where we stay while eventing we put up something against the window where the light is coming in; we’re not going to ask the host to turn off their flood light. We use the same procedure when we sleep overnight in a parking lot in route to or from events.

We listen to barking dogs every night; it’s their job. Good luck to any neighbor who tries to get them to stop barking (we live where there are “right to farm” ordinances.

We are around off leash dogs at every event (including ours); they’re all under verbal control.

I agree with you, but I also think you are talking about different things.

RV parks and parking lots are not the same as a traditional public campground. People don't expect to have total darkness in an RV park or parking lot like they do in most public campgrounds.

Living in an agricultural area is different than living in a residential area. People expect to hear animals. And dogs will rarely bark through the night out of boredom and frustration. And the distance between the animals and a neighbor's bedroom are going to be far greater.*

A dog trial event is a lot different than a local park. The dogs are at these events specifically because they have been trained far beyond the average pet dog and are showing that training.

*Unfortunately, there are many many idiots who move into an agriculural area because of the "atmosphere" and then proceed to try to eliminate the atmospere because it's "bothersome". But that's a different problem.