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Somebody educate me on "Nitrogen" in the tires ?

NanciL
Explorer II
Explorer II
We just bought a new Travel trailer and I never noticed at the dealers, but saw a sticker on the side today that said there is nitrogen in the tires.
Someone please explain what this is for.

Jack L
Jack & Nanci
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Turtle_n_Peeps
Explorer
Explorer
mike-s wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
rbtglove wrote:
Nitrogen is used in A/C tires and some race cars primarily because it is not flammable like the oxygen in air.
Oxygen is flammable?
In a literal, pedantic sense, no. But the GP's statement should be taken to mean that nitrogen doesn't support combustion like oxygen does.


If my tires or race car is on fire, the last thing I'm going to worry about is the 20% of O2 in the tires because there is a whole bunch of it around the car to support combustion
~ Too many freaks & not enough circuses ~


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dave54
Nomad
Nomad
Put helium in your tires. Your rig will seem to float down the highway.
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buta4
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Explorer
safeman wrote:
I keep a precise mixture of 78 percent nitrogen in all my tires:B


LOL! Me too.
Ray

fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
rbtglove wrote:
Nitrogen is used in A/C tires and some race cars primarily because it is not flammable like the oxygen in air. It also has a slight advantage in stability/leakage expansion. It is pretty much a waste of money to use in RVs.
BTW, oxygen isn't flammable.
Howard and Peggy

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mike-s
Explorer
Explorer
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
rbtglove wrote:
Nitrogen is used in A/C tires and some race cars primarily because it is not flammable like the oxygen in air.
Oxygen is flammable?
In a literal, pedantic sense, no. But the GP's statement should be taken to mean that nitrogen doesn't support combustion like oxygen does.

Turtle_n_Peeps
Explorer
Explorer
rbtglove wrote:
Nitrogen is used in A/C tires and some race cars primarily because it is not flammable like the oxygen in air.


Oxygen is flammable? :h
~ Too many freaks & not enough circuses ~


"Life is not tried ~ it is merely survived ~ if you're standing
outside the fire"

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."- Abraham Lincoln

d3500ram
Explorer III
Explorer III
LOL... I was also going to add that the N works better in high altitude states like the one in which we live... that also provides for less density resulting in better mileage
:B
Sold the TC, previous owner of 2 NorthStar pop-ups & 2 Northstar Arrows...still have the truck:

2005 Dodge 3500 SRW, Qcab long bed, NV-6500, diesel, 4WD, Helwig, 9000XL,
Nitto 285/70/17 Terra Grapplers, Honda eu3000Is, custom overload spring perch spacers.

Clay_L
Explorer
Explorer
d3500ram wrote:
Nitrogen is slightly less weight than normal compressed air therefore the slightly less weight on the tires provides for less rolling resistance resulting in better fuel millage.

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rbtglove
Explorer
Explorer
Nitrogen is used in A/C tires and some race cars primarily because it is not flammable like the oxygen in air. It also has a slight advantage in stability/leakage expansion. It is pretty much a waste of money to use in RVs.
Bob/Beavercreek OH
2011 Silverado 1500 LTZ/Trail Lite 8230

d3500ram
Explorer III
Explorer III
Nitrogen is slightly less weight than normal compressed air therefore the slightly less weight on the tires provides for less rolling resistance resulting in better fuel millage.





























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Sold the TC, previous owner of 2 NorthStar pop-ups & 2 Northstar Arrows...still have the truck:

2005 Dodge 3500 SRW, Qcab long bed, NV-6500, diesel, 4WD, Helwig, 9000XL,
Nitto 285/70/17 Terra Grapplers, Honda eu3000Is, custom overload spring perch spacers.

ktmrfs
Explorer
Explorer
wolfe10 wrote:
There are actually THREE "what can/should I use to inflate my tires" answers:

Nitrogen

DRY air (with air dryer to remove moisture from air)

WET air (you know-- those coin op machines with water dripping from the air chuck)

Nitrogen and dry air both follow the Ideal Gas Law (PV=nRT). For a given temperature change, there WILL BE a given change in PSI.

Wet air is NOT an ideal gas and will give more PSI change for a given temperature change.


yup, excellent summary.

And a common and easy way to remove moisture uses a permiable barrier will remove the moisture and remove most of the oxygen giving you dry nitrogen.

hence likely the nitrogen fill. But filling with dry air is for all practical purposes for most applications just fine.
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bikendan
Explorer
Explorer
sold tires for 10 years and this is the biggest scam the Tire Industry has ever come up with.:S
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wolfe10
Explorer
Explorer
There are actually THREE "what can/should I use to inflate my tires" answers:

Nitrogen

DRY air (with air dryer to remove moisture from air)

WET air (you know-- those coin op machines with water dripping from the air chuck)

Nitrogen and dry air both follow the Ideal Gas Law (PV=nRT). For a given temperature change, there WILL BE a given change in PSI.

Wet air is NOT an ideal gas and will give more PSI change for a given temperature change.
Brett Wolfe
Ex: 2003 Alpine 38'FDDS
Ex: 1997 Safari 35'
Ex: 1993 Foretravel U240

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Bill_Satellite
Explorer II
Explorer II
For what we do, be it RV or car, this is just snake oil. If you find you need air in your tires fill them up anywhere air is available.
What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
Can't we all just get along?

dave54
Nomad
Nomad
For ordinary vehicle use the advantage is negligible. If you can get the tires filled with nitrogen for free, then go ahead. Won't hurt and a very small benefit. If you must pay for nitrogen you will never recoup the cost over the lifespan of several sets of tires.
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