โDec-28-2016 03:01 PM
โJan-05-2017 06:23 PM
โJan-05-2017 05:37 PM
โJan-05-2017 11:02 AM
msmith1199 wrote:Sully2 wrote:rgatijnet1 wrote:
Don't look for TRAILERS. Look for, or do what I did, ask the State Police, what the requirement is for a "VEHICLE IN TOW".
Then try to remember when you saw any tow truck operator put a supplemental braking system in a car that they were towing. TRAILER requirements are what the people put in the ads to fool people in to buying their braking system. It works, so they keep doing it. msimth1199 is ex-police and he is telling you the truth.
As I mentioned, I contacted most States that I would travel in and never found a single one that required brakes in my toad. I posted the names of the people that I contacted. Here is a typical reply from Florida. NOTE that no weight limit is ever mentioned. Compare this with what BrakeBuddy tries to tell you:
A vehicle towed behind a motor home would be exempt from the braking requirements in Florida statute 316.261 as a drive away, tow away operation. Please contact me if you have any other questions.
Lt. Jeff Frost
Florida Highway Patrol
Public Affairs Officer
Commercial Vehicle Enforcement
2900 Apalachee Parkway, MS 45
850-617-2279
Tallahassee, Florida 32399
www.flhsmv.gov/fhp
Jefffrost@flhsmv.gov
Which is why I went to my state police and inquired. Was told that "the book" says if the vehicle was never DESIGNED to be towed ( and cars ARENT) then no Aux braked are needed. A TRAILER which IS designed to be towed...DOES require braked.
And again, as far as I know there is no state that has a law that says aux brakes are never needed. All the states have a braking performance requirement and if your motorhome and toad can't meet that requirement then yes aux brakes are mandated as it's the only way you'll be able to comply with the law. If your motorhome is a 21 foot Class C and your toad is a Ford F-250 4x4 crew cab long bed truck, then I assure you every state in the land will have a law requiring you to have aux brakes on your toad because you'll never be able to stop that combination with just the brakes on the motorhome.
โJan-04-2017 08:38 PM
Sully2 wrote:rgatijnet1 wrote:
Don't look for TRAILERS. Look for, or do what I did, ask the State Police, what the requirement is for a "VEHICLE IN TOW".
Then try to remember when you saw any tow truck operator put a supplemental braking system in a car that they were towing. TRAILER requirements are what the people put in the ads to fool people in to buying their braking system. It works, so they keep doing it. msimth1199 is ex-police and he is telling you the truth.
As I mentioned, I contacted most States that I would travel in and never found a single one that required brakes in my toad. I posted the names of the people that I contacted. Here is a typical reply from Florida. NOTE that no weight limit is ever mentioned. Compare this with what BrakeBuddy tries to tell you:
A vehicle towed behind a motor home would be exempt from the braking requirements in Florida statute 316.261 as a drive away, tow away operation. Please contact me if you have any other questions.
Lt. Jeff Frost
Florida Highway Patrol
Public Affairs Officer
Commercial Vehicle Enforcement
2900 Apalachee Parkway, MS 45
850-617-2279
Tallahassee, Florida 32399
www.flhsmv.gov/fhp
Jefffrost@flhsmv.gov
Which is why I went to my state police and inquired. Was told that "the book" says if the vehicle was never DESIGNED to be towed ( and cars ARENT) then no Aux braked are needed. A TRAILER which IS designed to be towed...DOES require braked.
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โJan-02-2017 10:34 AM
rgatijnet1 wrote:
Don't look for TRAILERS. Look for, or do what I did, ask the State Police, what the requirement is for a "VEHICLE IN TOW".
Then try to remember when you saw any tow truck operator put a supplemental braking system in a car that they were towing. TRAILER requirements are what the people put in the ads to fool people in to buying their braking system. It works, so they keep doing it. msimth1199 is ex-police and he is telling you the truth.
As I mentioned, I contacted most States that I would travel in and never found a single one that required brakes in my toad. I posted the names of the people that I contacted. Here is a typical reply from Florida. NOTE that no weight limit is ever mentioned. Compare this with what BrakeBuddy tries to tell you:
A vehicle towed behind a motor home would be exempt from the braking requirements in Florida statute 316.261 as a drive away, tow away operation. Please contact me if you have any other questions.
Lt. Jeff Frost
Florida Highway Patrol
Public Affairs Officer
Commercial Vehicle Enforcement
2900 Apalachee Parkway, MS 45
850-617-2279
Tallahassee, Florida 32399
www.flhsmv.gov/fhp
Jefffrost@flhsmv.gov
โJan-02-2017 09:57 AM
wallynm wrote:
Ours has failed twice. How did I know. The last time we were leaving Flaming Gorge Bridge and Dam. On the steep grades I could feel that the DP was not slowing down as it normally did. On inspection it had failed and I returned it to the factory for servicing.Rice wrote:msmith1199 wrote:
So before all the hate starts I have to add the disclaimer here, I'm just telling you what the law is. Brakebuddy and all those others know good and well they are lying on their websites but they do it anyway. I would recommend that if you have a heavy toad or a light motorhome or a combination of the two, that you get aux brakes on your toad. But if you have a heavy DP and a light toad, do what you feel comfortable with.
Thanks for the info about what the laws actually are. It's interesting.
My issue with braking systems is that nobody ever acknowledges that braking systems can and do break or cause problems. So it's never, as a lot of people seem to assert, just a case of "Will it do any good whatsoever?" Instead, the question should be, "Will it do enough good to outweigh the cost and the possible problems it could actually cause?"
โDec-31-2016 07:04 PM
Rice wrote:msmith1199 wrote:
So before all the hate starts I have to add the disclaimer here, I'm just telling you what the law is. Brakebuddy and all those others know good and well they are lying on their websites but they do it anyway. I would recommend that if you have a heavy toad or a light motorhome or a combination of the two, that you get aux brakes on your toad. But if you have a heavy DP and a light toad, do what you feel comfortable with.
Thanks for the info about what the laws actually are. It's interesting.
My issue with braking systems is that nobody ever acknowledges that braking systems can and do break or cause problems. So it's never, as a lot of people seem to assert, just a case of "Will it do any good whatsoever?" Instead, the question should be, "Will it do enough good to outweigh the cost and the possible problems it could actually cause?"
THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT
โDec-31-2016 03:05 PM
Rice wrote:msmith1199 wrote:
So before all the hate starts I have to add the disclaimer here, I'm just telling you what the law is. Brakebuddy and all those others know good and well they are lying on their websites but they do it anyway. I would recommend that if you have a heavy toad or a light motorhome or a combination of the two, that you get aux brakes on your toad. But if you have a heavy DP and a light toad, do what you feel comfortable with.
Thanks for the info about what the laws actually are. It's interesting.
My issue with braking systems is that nobody ever acknowledges that braking systems can and do break or cause problems. So it's never, as a lot of people seem to assert, just a case of "Will it do any good whatsoever?" Instead, the question should be, "Will it do enough good to outweigh the cost and the possible problems it could actually cause?"
โDec-31-2016 02:54 PM
โDec-31-2016 02:09 PM
msmith1199 wrote:
So before all the hate starts I have to add the disclaimer here, I'm just telling you what the law is. Brakebuddy and all those others know good and well they are lying on their websites but they do it anyway. I would recommend that if you have a heavy toad or a light motorhome or a combination of the two, that you get aux brakes on your toad. But if you have a heavy DP and a light toad, do what you feel comfortable with.
โDec-31-2016 12:45 PM
xctraveler wrote:
Not sure I have a dog in this fight since I have had a supplemental tow system installed and in use for the past 13 years. I towed for 3 years without one and was grateful when I finally got around to installing it. Crossing the b order into British Columbia they require a brake system for any towed vehicle in excess of 1500 kg (3300 lbs). Not everyone is headed into BC, but. . .
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โDec-31-2016 12:28 PM
โDec-31-2016 10:35 AM
Mr.Mark wrote:rgatijnet1 wrote:
Don't look for TRAILERS. Look for, or do what I did, ask the State Police, what the requirement is for a "VEHICLE IN TOW".
Then try to remember when you saw any tow truck operator put a supplemental braking system in a car that they were towing. TRAILER requirements are what the people put in the ads to fool people in to buying their braking system. It works, so they keep doing it. msimth1199 is ex-police and he is telling you the truth.
As I mentioned, I contacted most States that I would travel in and never found a single one that required brakes in my toad. I posted the names of the people that I contacted. Here is a typical reply from Florida. NOTE that no weight limit is ever mentioned. Compare this with what BrakeBuddy tries to tell you:
A vehicle towed behind a motor home would be exempt from the braking requirements in Florida statute 316.261 as a drive away, tow away operation. Please contact me if you have any other questions.
Lt. Jeff Frost
Florida Highway Patrol
Public Affairs Officer
Commercial Vehicle Enforcement
2900 Apalachee Parkway, MS 45
850-617-2279
Tallahassee, Florida 32399
www.flhsmv.gov/fhp
Jefffrost@flhsmv.gov
RG, I'm not looking for 'trailers'. It is what came up when I punched in 'towing'. It is hard to navigate TDOT.
I want to see it in writing what TN says about towing a car behind a motorhome and the requirements.
I'll find it. I haven't given up.
MM.
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2019 Ford Ranger 4x4
โDec-31-2016 08:58 AM
doc brown wrote:
People are driving a motor home that costs in excess of 100k in many instances, and they are not willing to spend 1k to minimize potential liability or injury to someone else? As said, forget what is required by law, lets use some common sense.