โMar-22-2016 02:08 PM
โApr-07-2016 10:24 AM
ken56 wrote:
Funny thing, I worked at the plant where they make the GM HD's....2500, 3500, and never saw where they were weighed to get that door sticker. Hummmm......I saw everything else about the manufacture of these vehicles from frame, axles, box, cab and engines but never saw where there was a scale to weigh each and every one of them. I never thought about it.
โMar-29-2016 08:37 PM
Gdetrailer wrote:IDoMyOwnStunts wrote:Gdetrailer wrote:
gasoline weighs about 8.2 lbs per gallon so I divide 288 by 8.2 and I get 35.12.. Which HAPPENS to be the size of my gas tank of 35 gallons!
Minor correction. Gas weighs about 6.3 lbs per gallon. If you're running a diesel rig, that weighs about 7.1 lbs per gallon.
Your pickiness kind of reminds me why I typically don't bother reading this forum..
Close enough for my example.
However one should note that the actual weight of gasoline VARIES, A LOT depending on the exact blend of additives and formulations..
I have seen numbers from 6.03 to 8.2 lbs and depending on which "version" of gallons you can get different answers.
even using YOUR example we ARE only talking a huge difference of 67.5 lbs..
With a vehicle weighing in at 6011 lbs I would say that amounts to nothing in the whole scheme of things.
If you are down to counting ounces then you ARE overloaded..
My point is that the MANUFACTURER BY LAW CERTIFIES ALL THE NUMBERS ON THE DOOR STICKERS AS GOOD AND TRUE AT THE TIME THE VEHICLE LEFT THE FACTORY FLOOR.
If you use the cargo weight on the yellow sticker as the max payload you cannot go wrong. Typically you WILL run out of PAYLOAD before you reach the gross combination weight.
But in my case 15% of 3451 is 23,006 lbs worth of TT (exceeds my Gross Combination and will exceed my drivers license class) or in the case of a 5th or goose neck 25% pin is 13,804 lbs (under my gross combination).
I don't need the curb weight to determine what I can tow the payload tells me what I can tow.
โMar-29-2016 03:09 PM
IDoMyOwnStunts wrote:Gdetrailer wrote:
gasoline weighs about 8.2 lbs per gallon so I divide 288 by 8.2 and I get 35.12.. Which HAPPENS to be the size of my gas tank of 35 gallons!
Minor correction. Gas weighs about 6.3 lbs per gallon. If you're running a diesel rig, that weighs about 7.1 lbs per gallon.
โMar-29-2016 06:13 AM
ken56 wrote:
Funny thing, I worked at the plant where they make the GM HD's....2500, 3500, and never saw where they were weighed to get that door sticker. Hummmm......I saw everything else about the manufacture of these vehicles from frame, axles, box, cab and engines but never saw where there was a scale to weigh each and every one of them. I never thought about it.
โMar-29-2016 05:56 AM
โMar-28-2016 08:01 PM
Gdetrailer wrote:
gasoline weighs about 8.2 lbs per gallon so I divide 288 by 8.2 and I get 35.12.. Which HAPPENS to be the size of my gas tank of 35 gallons!
โMar-24-2016 03:45 PM
valhalla360 wrote:rhagfo wrote:
You do realize the "Yellow Sticker" is specific to that vehicle. The yellow sticker is the difference between that vehicles "Curb Weight" and it's listed GVWR.
Once you start adding after factory accessories that payload starts going only one direction DOWN!
Yes, it is specific to the vehicle but just lists the overall max ratings. You have to go find the curb weight online or somewhere else.
Obviously, if you start adding things aftermarket, you have to account for them but that's true no matter what.
โMar-23-2016 11:23 AM
valhalla360 wrote:
Yes, it is specific to the vehicle but just lists the overall max ratings. You have to go find the curb weight online or somewhere else.
Obviously, if you start adding things aftermarket, you have to account for them but that's true no matter what.
โMar-23-2016 09:16 AM
rhagfo wrote:
You do realize the "Yellow Sticker" is specific to that vehicle. The yellow sticker is the difference between that vehicles "Curb Weight" and it's listed GVWR.
Once you start adding after factory accessories that payload starts going only one direction DOWN!
โMar-23-2016 08:11 AM
valhalla360 wrote:rhagfo wrote:azdryheat wrote:
Trailer Life Towing guide has what you're looking for.
Yes, but they also only list maximum.
On EDIT: Really most point to the beloved "Yellow Sticker" my feeling it is nice for on the lot comparison, BUT in reality, load the TV up as you would ready for a trip and get it weighed, Front axle and rear axle.
I am not the weight police, I run over GVWR, but within all other ratings.
Yes, I do believe a 1/2 ton can pull a 5er, more safely than a TT. The right TV and Right trailer and it will work well.
Even the beloved yellow sticker doesn't solve it because it doesn't list the curb weights. Big difference between a shortbed regular cab vs a longbed 4 door with the same sticker.
I don't believe the SXT and other trim levels typically have much impact (the HD rating does) but 10 different ratings usually sort themselves out when you enter the cab type, box length and engine.
Trailer life calculator is a good start but drops the ball at the end and totally cops out on the 5th wheels. After that, you have to pull up the PDF and read it checking all the footnotes.
โMar-23-2016 06:16 AM
rhagfo wrote:azdryheat wrote:
Trailer Life Towing guide has what you're looking for.
Yes, but they also only list maximum.
On EDIT: Really most point to the beloved "Yellow Sticker" my feeling it is nice for on the lot comparison, BUT in reality, load the TV up as you would ready for a trip and get it weighed, Front axle and rear axle.
I am not the weight police, I run over GVWR, but within all other ratings.
Yes, I do believe a 1/2 ton can pull a 5er, more safely than a TT. The right TV and Right trailer and it will work well.
โMar-22-2016 05:12 PM
azdryheat wrote:
Trailer Life Towing guide has what you're looking for.
โMar-22-2016 04:43 PM
โMar-22-2016 02:44 PM