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Anyone heard about this?

raindove
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September 09, 2013


Possible New Deadly Canine Virus - Canine Circovirus


This is positive in two states so far - Ohio and California but only have seen these two articles out of Ohio. No matter what, be on the lookout for any possible signs of this Canine Circovirus. The Circovirus is a virus typically found in pigs, not dogs. Symptoms include vomiting, bloody diarrhea, weight loss, neurological problems, a lack of appetite and lethargy. This is serious because if it is left untreated a dog can die within 48 hours.
If your dog shows any of these symptoms, contact your veterinarian immediately. Please have them tested for canine circovirus – if they have any questions they can contact Ohio Department of Agriculture/Division of Animal Health for details. All reports of illness should be reported to your Department of Agriculture for proper monitoring of this virus.



Here are the two articles so far:

1st article

2nd article
Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

Wanda

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Code2High
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Definitely good to know what's going on. We just have to control that urge to freak out :E Which I think we all have where the fuzzheads are concerned.
susan

Fuzzy Wuzzy was a wabbit, Fuzzy Wuzzy had a dandelion habit! RIP little Wuz... don't go far.

dturm
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Brief to vets I got today wrote:
Veterinarians caution against quick conclusions in Ohio deaths
As experts in Ohio are studying a number of dog deaths and the possibility that a novel virus is involved, veterinarians are fielding calls from concerned owners and telling people to be cautious but not panic. Circovirus, a pathogen only recently identified in dogs, was found in a fecal sample from one dog, but biological samples from two dogs in different parts of the state tested negative. However, experts cautioned that very little is known about circovirus in dogs. "There is no way of saying 'This dog is positive, this dog is negative' yet with circovirus because we don't know the best tissue to sample," said veterinarian Patricia Pesavento of the University of California, Davis. And Ohio state veterinarian Tony Forshey noted it's not even clear whether circovirus was the cause of illness in the animals that tested positive
Doug & Sandy
Kaylee
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raindove
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It sounds to me like this is pretty severe. I know my friend in OH, whose dog got sick -- she was fine when they went to bed.
I don't remember if she woke them up during the night or if they found it in the morning, but there was explosive diarrhea and lots of it. It was pretty obvious from the git go, that this wasn't just an ordinary case of the runs.

I originally posted this, just so ppl are aware. With folks traveling and coming into contact with strange dogs it's good to know what's out there.
Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

Wanda

1998 Fleetwood Bounder

dturm
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CA POPPY wrote:
I wonder what the treatment would be, if they don't yet know what they're fighting. IV fluids? We don't use the dog park, but do visit a park with many dog walkers all the time.


A majority of the time we treat vomiting/diarrhea without really knowing what is causing it. You always institute treatment before any lab work or cultures have results (if they are done at all).

Supportive care is what it's called, IV's, antibiotics (intestinal and or systemic), anti-emetics etc.

As far as waiting to seek vet care, we really don't know what we're dealing with here, so it's kind of hard to make hard and fast rules or recommendations. Don't get too frightened yet, it's still pretty isolated. Most of us have dealt with the occasional vomiting/diarrhea. If this looks like a more severe form or your dog is "more sick" that usual then get help quickly.

Doug, DVM
Doug & Sandy
Kaylee
Winnie 6 1/2 year old golden
2008 Southwind 2009 Honda CRV

raindove
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More info - clicky
Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

Wanda

1998 Fleetwood Bounder

Code2High
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If I took my dogs to the vet every time someone spit something up, we'd all be living on the street. Predators/scavengers are put together in a way that they eat first and ask questions later (survival mechanism since the kind of food they eat can be stolen by other animals) and barf at the drop of a hat. Mine have a fine disregard for what is actually "edible" vs what "can be swallowed" and things will get spit up.

However.... there's vomiting and there's vomiting. If a dog throws up a meal and re-eats it, or spits something up that never should have been eaten and seems fine, that's one thing. A little bile before breakfast but then eats like a horse.... no problem. But people have to really use their heads. Repeated vomiting, not eating, seeming "off" and other symptoms of stomach distress or illness should be attended to quickly. If I think one is sick, there is zero waiting time before I start considering my options. Listen to your gut.

Keep in mind though, that as scary as this is, this is a very small number of dogs. That's not to say that there isn't some cause for concern, but the odds of any given dog being exposed to this or catching it are still quite small. Don't be driving yourselves crazy. (I know for some of us, that isn't much of a trip, but still.... )
susan

Fuzzy Wuzzy was a wabbit, Fuzzy Wuzzy had a dandelion habit! RIP little Wuz... don't go far.

AZPops
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dturm wrote:
Until we have more information, probably best to avoid dog parks, pet stores (with your dog) and big social gathering of dogs.



Thanks for the advise Doc. I guess no more washing the kid at Petco's self wash!

CA_POPPY
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I wonder what the treatment would be, if they don't yet know what they're fighting. IV fluids? We don't use the dog park, but do visit a park with many dog walkers all the time.
Judy & Bud (Judy usually the one talking here)
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corgi-traveler
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Dr Doug, is it fair to say at this point, that going in to the vet at the first sign of vomiting or diarrhea, rather than waiting the usual 24 hours, would be a "better safe than sorry" practice?
Samantha (the poster)
Tim, DH and driver of the CorgiMobile
Dexter and Dora - Pembroke Welsh Corgis
Gone but never forgotten -
Beth 1/11/94-6/3/09
Pippin 3/16/05-11/4/15
Buddy 11/7/05-10/24/16
Diva 1/9/09 - 8/20/20

dturm
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Until we have more information, probably best to avoid dog parks, pet stores (with your dog) and big social gathering of dogs.
Doug & Sandy
Kaylee
Winnie 6 1/2 year old golden
2008 Southwind 2009 Honda CRV

AZPops
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Thanks for the heads up! Posting this in a few other forums I'm on to give the member's the two links provided!

Pops

Btw, how do you keep this type of virus from spreading? ... Or can you?

dturm
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Yes. The symptoms are like parvo. There are isolated cases in Ohio, similar cases in California - no virus isolation confirmation yet.

I hope this does not progress live parvo did in the early 80's. I hope people are working on isolating the virus and creating a vaccine.

Doug, DVM
Doug & Sandy
Kaylee
Winnie 6 1/2 year old golden
2008 Southwind 2009 Honda CRV