Dog urinating and defecating on your site while owners watch

[ernie1]

The other evening while I was sitting outside of my rv and about ten feet from the 4x4 post that has numbers indicating site numbers, a woman walking two dogs casually slowed down so that one of the dogs could urinate against the 4x4 post. I was dumfounded at the gall of that person but didn't say anything because she was quickly down the road.

Tonight, I was inside my rv when a woman stopped and let her dog **** on the gravel of my site. She then dutifully took her plastic bag and picked up the stuff like everything was okay!

Just curious about what you guys think about people that do this? Last time I had a dog, I thought his stuff stunk really bad. Maybe the owners think their own stuff doesn't?

[colliehauler]

Deb and Ed M wrote:

DOTLDaddy wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
Typical pet owner responses. My dog is special and different. It's despicable behavior

Gee . . . . kinda harsh.:E

Especially on the Pet Forum! Can we go over to the Class A forum and complain about how noisy and stinky the diesels are?? 😉

Not unless you have a death wish.:E. It would be like throwing a rock at a hornets nest.

[colliehauler]

Wow 12 pages about dog waste.

[My_Roadtrek]

dturm wrote:

Pinworm (Enterobius vermicularis) infections are the most common worm infection in America. Although any individual may develop a case of pinworms, the infection occurs most frequently in school children between 5 to 10 years of age. Pinworm infections occur in all socioeconomic groups; however, human-to-human spread is favored by close, crowded living conditions. Spread among family members is common. Animals do not harbor pinworms - humans are the only natural host for this parasite.

Get your facts straight.

Drsolo
Not all his facts are Scientifically correct as our Mod, who is a Vet, has pointed out.
I have seen a lot more campers, and their kids doing unsanitary things, that I would be way more worried about than some dog pee, or poop that was picked up my the owner.
As was pointed out by a another poster, most dogs are treated for worms, along with other things, when they get their shots/checkup. Some people have irrational fears of many things, and I think catching a desease from dogs in a Campground is one of them.

"Current evidence supports the fact that pet dogs pose a minimal zoonotic risk to their human companions. Your risk may be slightly higher if you have a compromised immune system from disease or medication."

I'm not a Doctor, but I do have a degree in Zoology.

[DOTLDaddy]

drsolo wrote:
I agree with the the well reasoned and scientifically supported facts of ernie1. I am really dismayed by the many ad hominem attacks flung around like caged monkey scat. But it got me to thinking about the evolution of science, medicine and cultural anthropology in the area of human wastes. In some parts of the world people like to go off into the bush and relieve themselves even when there are sanitary facilities available. This is very much a cultural difference and it is difficult to change how people are "used" to doing things. I dont think anybody disputes that it is not civilized nor healthy for human beings to pee or defecate in populated areas both for reasons of health as well as smell. And our disgust at happening upon errant human defecation in situ or in progress is irregardless of possible wildlife defecation in the same area. Culturally we differentiate between the two. The proximity of dogs and cats to humans present a higher risk in the transmission of disease (zoonosis) by their raw wastes. And within the US we differ socially in our tolerance of the site and smell of animal dung. So farmers are probably not going to be bothered by dog dung while city folk just go ballistic by the sight or smell of it on the cityscape. It is why signs are posted "curb your dog" meaning dont let them take a dump on the sidewalk and it is much easier to walk a dog down the middle of the road at a CG than in a city.

So back to the CG where we have a mix of people from farm/country, the city and everything in between converge with different tolerances, preferences, expectations and experiences. It doesnt make anyone wrong or right. No need for attacks.

Thank you, professor. 🙂 I have never heard the subject of "picking up poop" sound so . . . . . scientific!:C:W

[drsolo]

I agree with the the well reasoned and scientifically supported facts of ernie1. I am really dismayed by the many ad hominem attacks flung around like caged monkey scat. But it got me to thinking about the evolution of science, medicine and cultural anthropology in the area of human wastes. In some parts of the world people like to go off into the bush and relieve themselves even when there are sanitary facilities available. This is very much a cultural difference and it is difficult to change how people are "used" to doing things. I dont think anybody disputes that it is not civilized nor healthy for human beings to pee or defecate in populated areas both for reasons of health as well as smell. And our disgust at happening upon errant human defecation in situ or in progress is irregardless of possible wildlife defecation in the same area. Culturally we differentiate between the two. The proximity of dogs and cats to humans present a higher risk in the transmission of disease (zoonosis) by their raw wastes. And within the US we differ socially in our tolerance of the site and smell of animal dung. So farmers are probably not going to be bothered by dog dung while city folk just go ballistic by the sight or smell of it on the cityscape. It is why signs are posted "curb your dog" meaning dont let them take a dump on the sidewalk and it is much easier to walk a dog down the middle of the road at a CG than in a city.

So back to the CG where we have a mix of people from farm/country, the city and everything in between converge with different tolerances, preferences, expectations and experiences. It doesnt make anyone wrong or right. No need for attacks.

[DOTLDaddy]

roam1 wrote:
We were eating breakfast outside on our site while a lady walked up and relieved both of her dogs in front of us....

One time I was sitting outside my camper, reading a book. I did not have the awning out, as it was a very nice day.

A bird flying over pooped right on my head! :M

[jake2250]

Ever spend time on any of the Coasts camping?? We had a flock of Pelicans, Sea gulls and some other big ugly bird try to dive bomb us one week!! Turns out I threw out some meat trimmings in the garbage and these things wanted it,, they made a mess of the picnic table,my trailer and my PU!! We laughed because they would actually try to poop on our heads when we went out!! We have learned NOT to get a spot any where near a dumpster!! Oh well,, I hear that in some countries,,getting pooped on by a bird is good luck??

[AZPops]

Harlee picked up worms once. When we were staying at a RV Park. Does that count?

Had to give her this chalky white medicine via a extry large syringe.


Pops


PS glad you'all nevur mentioned wabbits. They are to cute to have worms, ... right? .... I read somewhere that some dogs really like eating the stuff, ... kind of like a delicacy, e.g. wabbit caviar.


PPS what was the question, again?

[roam1]

We were eating breakfast outside on our site while a lady walked up and relieved bother of her dogs in front of us. Nice ambiance!
I wish it were legal for humans to do the same, I'd follow them home and return the favor!

[Dog_Folks]

4X4Dodger wrote:

Deb and Ed M wrote:
I also propose (once again) - that the folks on the Pet Forum who own dogs are PAINFULLY aware of how much certain RVers hate our pets. I'd bet we are the poop-pickupiest bunch of people you could ever run into. We fly our blue bags like Tibetan Prayer Flags. We post ad nauseum about how to keep our dogs from barking. We REALLY TRY TO BE GOOD CAMPERS. But not everyone reads RV.net (gasp!)

On the other hand, most of us have confessed that part of our desire to RV is to have our pets with us. Most of us will NOT board our pets for an extended period. If RV parks banned pet owners - they would not be in business very long (unless they raised their rates to cover the lost income), because we ARE a considerable chunk of the camping population. Then EVERYONE would lose.

Very TRUE and well said.

X3 According to RIVA, 54% of campers travel with pets. Of those 94% are dogs.

The pet less are in the minority!!!

[jake2250]

We camped at a nice privately owned camp next to a creek and a river along with the wilderness,, at night we noticed a few feral cats showing up and looking for food,,often they would drink my dogs water (His water bowl was outside next to the tire), We also noticed activity around the edge of the creek,, turned out to be skunks!! Oh and a fresh water otter also!
By the second night we had noticed the odor of cat urine,, then by the fourth night we could hear cats fighting outside the trailer,, The cats were marking their territory by urinating all over anything that was left outside,,,Chairs,dog toys,coolers,our fire wood,the trailer tires, Thank god I put the bbq in the back of the PU at night!!! Where was the outrage?? Where were the protests? Why didn't we set other trailers on fire and loot the stores??

Because its a fact of life that thats what animals of any type do!!! I had a set of night vision goggles and it looked like National Geo graphics "Wild Kingdom" at night!!

Thats why we go camping!! Nothing that couldn't be washed off!! We got over it and I suggest the OP does also,,or find a safer cleaner hobby!!

[4X4Dodger]

Deb and Ed M wrote:
I also propose (once again) - that the folks on the Pet Forum who own dogs are PAINFULLY aware of how much certain RVers hate our pets. I'd bet we are the poop-pickupiest bunch of people you could ever run into. We fly our blue bags like Tibetan Prayer Flags. We post ad nauseum about how to keep our dogs from barking. We REALLY TRY TO BE GOOD CAMPERS. But not everyone reads RV.net (gasp!)

On the other hand, most of us have confessed that part of our desire to RV is to have our pets with us. Most of us will NOT board our pets for an extended period. If RV parks banned pet owners - they would not be in business very long (unless they raised their rates to cover the lost income), because we ARE a considerable chunk of the camping population. Then EVERYONE would lose.

Very TRUE and well said.

[DwnSth]

Deb and Ed M wrote:
On the other hand, most of us have confessed that part of our desire to RV is to have our pets with us. Most of us will NOT board our pets for an extended period. If RV parks banned pet owners - they would not be in business very long (unless they raised their rates to cover the lost income), because we ARE a considerable chunk of the camping population. Then EVERYONE would lose.

X2!

There are two reason we RV. 1st, I traveled a lot in my early career and hate ALL hotel rooms. 2nd, our dogs. We tried camping once without them and just didn't like it.

Honestly, I have never encountered anyone complaining about dogs in any way. Most are happy to come up and talk and pet them. The key is the same with anything be courteous and make sure your pet or kid or whatever is not bothering other people. Now, if general pee, poop and pick up bother someone, perhaps they are at the wrong campground.

[Deb_and_Ed_M]

I also propose (once again) - that the folks on the Pet Forum who own dogs are PAINFULLY aware of how much certain RVers hate our pets. I'd bet we are the poop-pickupiest bunch of people you could ever run into. We fly our blue bags like Tibetan Prayer Flags. We post ad nauseum about how to keep our dogs from barking. We REALLY TRY TO BE GOOD CAMPERS. But not everyone reads RV.net (gasp!)

On the other hand, most of us have confessed that part of our desire to RV is to have our pets with us. Most of us will NOT board our pets for an extended period. If RV parks banned pet owners - they would not be in business very long (unless they raised their rates to cover the lost income), because we ARE a considerable chunk of the camping population. Then EVERYONE would lose.

[Deb_and_Ed_M]

DOTLDaddy wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
Typical pet owner responses. My dog is special and different. It's despicable behavior

Gee . . . . kinda harsh.:E

Especially on the Pet Forum! Can we go over to the Class A forum and complain about how noisy and stinky the diesels are?? 😉