Securing dogs at campsite plus flea & tic control

[Smokey_Lew]

Hi everyone, I'm looking for recommendations on how best to secure (tie out) two Siberian Huskies at a campsite. I just recently added a second rescued Husky to our pack and I'm trying to figure the best way to tie them up so they don't get tangled together on their lines.

With my single Husky, I would put her on a 15 or 20 foot cable line clipped to the leg of the picnic table but I can already imagine the tangled lines I'd be working on with two dogs tied this way.

I've seen Husky teams who scooter tied to pick lines and I'm wondering if this would be a good way to go for multiple dogs when camping, as well.

Also, are any of you using a flea and tic control product by the name "Comfortis"? It was recommended to me by the group I got my rescued Husky from but I've seen a lot of bad side effects listed on-line. The Husky group said the Frontline Plus I've been using on my other dog doesn't work well for tic protection. Any feedback on these two issues would be appreciated.

[Code2High]

rockhillmanor wrote:

Smokey Lew wrote:
...Also, are any of you using a flea and tic control product by the name "Comfortis"? It was recommended to me by the group I got my rescued Husky from but I've seen a lot of bad side effects listed on-line. .... Any feedback on these two issues would be appreciated.

As you found there are a lot of reports of sick dogs with this particular flea treatment. Their own testing shows vomiting to be the norm after administering. AND the FDA issued a warning report regarding adverse toxic reactions when administering ivermectin to dogs on Comfortis. Do not administer to dogs that have seizures, pancreatitis, diabetes.


IMHO list is too long of dogs that should not be given this flea treatment, and vomiting and loss of appetite being considered the norm would make me run from using this product.

I used it on mine once and there were no side effects that I could observe. I guess I was just lucky. They'd gotten flea infested on a road trip and frontline wasn't doing it. I have to say the Comfortis sure did. From what I've heard they use it on the greyhound rescues as well and I haven't heard complaints from people who deal with them.

[Oaklevel]

Tvov wrote:
Frontline worked fantastic for us for years. Recently on advice of our Vet my wife changed to another product. In my aging "crochety old man" suspicions, I found out that Frontline not to long ago switched from only being available from veterinarians to being available over-the-counter, at much lower cost. Then suddenly Frontline is "not as effective anymore". Hmmm....

Our vet still recommends Frontline there is another treatment by Frontline he offers but we are not using it.


****** He is recommending an annual Lyme Disease vaccination as Lyme disease from ticks is becoming a big issue in dogs*********** We are in SW Virninia but travel south often.........


We by our Frontline from our Vet as he is much cheaper than anywhere I have seen it............

[rockhillmanor]

We also used Frontline Plus for many years and were advised by our vet that they are seeing resistance in fleas & ticks because the product has been used for so long. ...

...Just as an FYI for anyone who might be interested -- There's a new Frontline product available in the southern states called Tritak. It looks like it contains an extra ingredient

(cyphenothrin)

over what Frontline Plus has.......

Interesting that they would ADD an ingredient that is proven to be resistant, to a product that already is seeing resistance?? :R



""However,

resistance to cyphenothrin is widespread

and can be very high in dog and cat fleas (Ctenocephalides spp). As a consequence, products with cyphenothrin may not achieve the expected efficacy. The same applies to all other 'synthetic' pyrethroids (e.g. cypermethrin, deltamethrin, flumethrin, etc.).....""
http://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2462&Itemid=2729

IMHO pet owners should be aware that EPA is the main principle in testing these flea treatments because it is a "pesticide" first.

[doxiemom11]

Frontline has been available over the counter for at least 3-4 years here in MI. Also has been available without prescription thru online pet supplies for several years. The heartworm stuff is prescription, but flea/tic control isnt.

[rockhillmanor]

Tvov wrote:
Frontline worked fantastic for us for years. Recently on advice of our Vet my wife changed to another product. In my aging "crochety old man" suspicions, I found out that Frontline not to long ago switched from only being available from veterinarians to being available over-the-counter, at much lower cost. Then suddenly Frontline is "not as effective anymore". Hmmm....

:B

[Tvov]

Frontline worked fantastic for us for years. Recently on advice of our Vet my wife changed to another product. In my aging "crochety old man" suspicions, I found out that Frontline not to long ago switched from only being available from veterinarians to being available over-the-counter, at much lower cost. Then suddenly Frontline is "not as effective anymore". Hmmm....

[Pawz4me]

doxiemom11 wrote:
We also used Frontline Plus for many years and were advised by our vet that they are seeing resistance in fleas & ticks because the product has been used for so long.

The newest product that was recommended to us, was Activyl Tick Plus(flea protection also). It is only available at a vets office as of now. It is made by Merck. We are currently using this. Our vet is using this on his dogs too.

Just as an FYI for anyone who might be interested -- There's a new Frontline product available in the southern states called Tritak. It looks like it contains an extra ingredient (cyphenothrin) over what Frontline Plus has. My vet group says they're now carrying Tritak instead of Plus. I have no idea why it's only available in the south. According to their website it's available in these states: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.

[rockhillmanor]

Smokey Lew wrote:
...Also, are any of you using a flea and tic control product by the name "Comfortis"? It was recommended to me by the group I got my rescued Husky from but I've seen a lot of bad side effects listed on-line. .... Any feedback on these two issues would be appreciated.

As you found there are a lot of reports of sick dogs with this particular flea treatment. Their own testing shows vomiting to be the norm after administering. AND the FDA issued a warning report regarding adverse toxic reactions when administering ivermectin to dogs on Comfortis. Do not administer to dogs that have seizures, pancreatitis, diabetes.


IMHO list is too long of dogs that should not be given this flea treatment, and vomiting and loss of appetite being considered the norm would make me run from using this product.

[doxiemom11]

We also used Frontline Plus for many years and were advised by our vet that they are seeing resistance in fleas & ticks because the product has been used for so long.

The newest product that was recommended to us, was Activyl Tick Plus(flea protection also). It is only available at a vets office as of now. It is made by Merck. We are currently using this. Our vet is using this on his dogs too.

[Jayco23FB]

I have 20' cable. I secure it to trees on each end using rachet straps. A pulley rides on the cable. On the pulley I attach the lead that connects to thier harness. I also use a cable that I can loop around a tree. I use a pulley attached to lead here as well. I prefer the first method when I am able to use it. We have 2 dobermans and it works great for us.

[WrongWayRandall]

My one Siberian could pull a picnic table around by herself, so three could easily turn it into a high speed sled - good for laughs, but not so good for camping 🙂 I'd be sure that you pick something a bit more immobile, or at least test it out carefully first.

Also, be sure that whatever claps or fastener you have on the ends of whatever you use is seriously solid. My Husky could break most medium sized lead clasps when motivated (by, say a rabbit, deer, racoon, etc., any of which can be easily encountered in a campground.) so three are going to put some serious strain on whatever you use.

And, before someone mentions proper training, being well behaved, etc. a Husky is not truly a pet, they are more a working dog with whom you develop a general understanding, and no amount of training can fully overwhelm their instincts (this from my vet, and it proved very sage advice...)

[Pawz4me]

3LittleDucks wrote:
If I was worried about having them tangled I'd probably tie 1 to the picnic table, and 1 to the hitch or something such that they could interact a bit but not get tangled together.

That's what we do. Our bigger dog gets tied to the picnic table and the Shih Tzu gets hooked to the RV steps.

Any flea/tick product can have side effects, but IMO the benefits outweigh the risks. As far as I know Comfortis is a good product. I use Frontline Plus and it still seems to work very well. But there are LOTS of reports of it losing its effectiveness in some areas. As long as it continues to work for us then I'll continue to use it.

[3LittleDucks]

If I was worried about having them tangled I'd probably tie 1 to the picnic table, and 1 to the hitch or something such that they could interact a bit but not get tangled together.

[KarenS144]

Our 2 boxers do fine cabled to the same back jack but I don't know how a 3rd one would do. I'd probably shorten their cables and put #3 on a front jack. I try to keep ours tired out so they're not moving around much at our site and each has a comfy cots with a pad on it so they're usually tired and comfy and sleeping. I don't know if tying to the jack on your TT would be advisable.

I use Frontline Plus and it controls ticks just fine. The ticks will attach and it takes a little time for them to die but they do. I still check the boxer kids at least once a day and pull off any that are still kicking as well as dead ones. I haven't tried Comfortis but have heard about some problems.