New Champion Genset spotted at Quartzite show

[MrWizard]

seen at Quartzite, at Supergen Products tent

Demo version of new electric Start wireless REMOTE , 3100w inverter model

I was told expected availability mid~late May 2014, No pricing info

weight 110#, the current model manual start 3100 inverter weighs 90#



the box seen on top-right and the wiring are part of the 'optional' SYNCing kit accessory for connecting to another CPE inverter genset,

[mena661]

mlts22 wrote:

Very true. My fix will be an Alexandrian solution -- a trade-in to a "B" or a short "C". With this in mind, I will have a lot more options for charging, including a decently sized solar array, so generator time is kept to a minimum.

A little off topic (sorry) but make sure you get a rig with a decent battery compartment. I've seen some where the batteries were literally afterthoughts. It's like they were getting ready to ship it out and had an "OS" moment.

[mlts22]

BFL13 wrote:


Your gen time to do a "50-90" is all to do with the charging rate and the voltage of the charger. Where the three-stage charger will go to mid 14s, then you can do a 50-90 with a 30% charging rate in two hours. 25% takes 2.3 hrs and 16% takes three hours.

This is close enough true whatever your battery type or size of bank. Batteries work roughly the same and are highly predictable for that reason.

eg 55amps on 220AH takes about two hrs and twenty minutes. Same thing with 110amps on 440AH or 90amps on 360AH.

I have a 700AH bank and using 140amps (20% charging rate) it takes about two and a half hours to do a 50-90.

IAW your gen time of 5-6 hrs is not something you are stuck with--you can fix that.

Very true. My fix will be an Alexandrian solution -- a trade-in to a "B" or a short "C". With this in mind, I will have a lot more options for charging, including a decently sized solar array, so generator time is kept to a minimum.

[MEXICOWANDERER]

20 db at 3.3 km's? Like LED wattage and lumens, I gotta see it myself up close and in person to believe numbers. Believe this from the chool of hard knocks, a single isolated burp from an otherwise quiet generator may tick off a neighbor.

[BFL13]

mlts22 wrote:
I wonder two things about the unit: dBs is the first, both putting away with a nominal load (like the RV's converter), and then running an A/C. Right now, my Yammy doesn't get anyone mad (if people actually notice it) when I fire it up for boondocking in the daytime (my furnace gobbles up ampere-hours, so it takes about 5-6 hours of run time to get the batteries to a decent SOC.)

........

Your gen time to do a "50-90" is all to do with the charging rate and the voltage of the charger. Where the three-stage charger will go to mid 14s, then you can do a 50-90 with a 30% charging rate in two hours. 25% takes 2.3 hrs and 16% takes three hours.

This is close enough true whatever your battery type or size of bank. Batteries work roughly the same and are highly predictable for that reason.

eg 55amps on 220AH takes about two hrs and twenty minutes. Same thing with 110amps on 440AH or 90amps on 360AH.

I have a 700AH bank and using 140amps (20% charging rate) it takes about two and a half hours to do a 50-90.

IAW your gen time of 5-6 hrs is not something you are stuck with--you can fix that.

[Horizon170]

MrWizzard, that will be somewhat better than the Energy Storm, electric start 2800 max, 2600 output. The pricing will be the determinator for some.

[EsoxLucius]

downtheroad wrote:
dB's ?

58 dB @ 23 feet

[mlts22]

I wonder two things about the unit: dBs is the first, both putting away with a nominal load (like the RV's converter), and then running an A/C. Right now, my Yammy doesn't get anyone mad (if people actually notice it) when I fire it up for boondocking in the daytime (my furnace gobbles up ampere-hours, so it takes about 5-6 hours of run time to get the batteries to a decent SOC.)

The second is run time. I fill the gas tank, and will get about eight hours of A/C time, or if just sitting on eco throttle and pushing the converter, about 15-20 hours, good enough for a weekend.

[BFL13]

Honda 3000 has a 30a receptacle but will only output 23a, as another example. It is just a convenience thing where a 20a receptacle would be too small.

[Mike_LeClair]

MrWizard wrote:
Before someone gets picky
Not full 50 amp RV service, which is 50 amps per leg
But 50 amps supply, to a 50 amp plug no 50~30 doggone needed
Like when using two Hondas or two cpe 2000w generators

Agreed! Thanks for clarifying that for us/me!

Mike

[CA_Traveler]

MrWizard wrote:
Before someone gets picky
Not full 50 amp RV service, which is 50 amps per leg
But 50 amps supply, to a 50 amp plug no 50~30 doggone needed
Like when using two Hondas or two cpe 2000w generators

50A rigs with an EMS/load shedding would be limited to 30A unless the gen combo produces 240/120.

[MrWizard]

Before someone gets picky
Not full 50 amp RV service, which is 50 amps per leg
But 50 amps supply, to a 50 amp plug no 50~30 doggone needed
Like when using two Hondas or two cpe 2000w generators

[jake2250]

Nice Gen, But I wish these companies would make a universal parallel kit to link to other manufactures Gens? Maybe a Blue/Red,, Blue/yellow,Yellow/Orange,,red/Yellow?

[Mike_LeClair]

The 50 amp plug is on the parallel hook up kit which is used to pair up two 3100's which would provide in the neighbourhood of 5,800 watts which is more than ample to provide 50 amp output. Honest, I was holding the thing in my hand!

Cheers!

Mike

[slohand]

Don't know how your gonna get 50 AMPs out of a 3100!