Pairing Eu2000's

[StewB]

Anyone know if you can pair up a Canadian Eu2000 with an American Eu2000 companion?
I know Canadian Eu2000's cannot be paired.

[2oldman]

StewB wrote:
I know Canadian Eu2000's cannot be paired.

Not if you intend on using the parallel banana plug connector.. wink wink.

[robert3]

StewB wrote:
Robert, can a Canadian EU2000 be retro fitted with the parrell ports if on is not worried about CSA?

I only have access to USA-spec tech materials, so can't say for sure if this is possible, sorry. The Canada-spec EU2 may have other differences (beyond the parallel ports) as well.

-Robert@Honda

[StewB]

Robert, can a Canadian EU2000 be retro fitted with the parrell ports if on is not worried about CSA?

[robert3]

Short version: The base EU2000i has a duplex receptacle rated at 20A, and power made is 13.3A. If 2 x units are connected in parallel, the total possible current is 26.6A, which exceeds to rating of the receptacle. Also, power shared via parallel ports does not flow through the 20A circuit breaker. These conditions are not allowed by CSA, so no parallel ports on Canadian EU2000i generators. The EU1000i is okay, since its 15A receptacle never flows more than 15A, even with a second EU1000i connected in parallel.

More details in this thread.

-Robert@Honda
Caveat: I work for Honda, but the preceding is my opinion alone.

[Broccoli1]

From Honda:
I don't have a link to CSA rules, but the basic reason is when you combine two standard EU2000i units in parallel, it's possible the single 20A-rated outlet may permit flow of > 20A of current, and CSA won't allow that (even with the 20A breaker). -Robert@Honda

[Broccoli1]

Wayne Dohnal wrote:

the Floating Neutral IS the reason that you can not get a parallel kit and CA models do not come with the ports- it dos not comply to CA electrical codes.

Has to be more to it than that in light of the eu1000iKC2 supporting parallel operation.

I'm guessing wattage, again just guessing 🙂

Trying to dig up the actual CSA rule/ guidelines

[Wayne_Dohnal]

the Floating Neutral IS the reason that you can not get a parallel kit and CA models do not come with the ports- it dos not comply to CA electrical codes.

Has to be more to it than that in light of the eu1000iKC2 supporting parallel operation.

[Broccoli1]

Wayne Dohnal wrote:

I believe that the reason is that the Canadian ones have one leg bonded to the frame as a grounded neutral and the U.S. ones have both legs floating.

The Canadian eu2000i does not have a bonded neutral. See this post http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/27040043/gotomsg/27047098.cfm#27047098, then scroll down 3 posts for a picture of the Canadian eu2000i panel that says "Neutral Floating" and "Neutre Flottant".

the Floating Neutral IS the reason that you can not get a parallel kit and CA models do not come with the ports- it dos not comply to CA electrical codes.

[StewB]

I am suprised know one has tried this. I have a canadian 2000 and was thinking when I am in the US I would pick up a companion 2000 so I could run them togeather. Just would like to make sure I won't have any issues when they run togeather.

Thanks for the input.

[Wayne_Dohnal]

I believe that the reason is that the Canadian ones have one leg bonded to the frame as a grounded neutral and the U.S. ones have both legs floating.

The Canadian eu2000i does not have a bonded neutral. See this post http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/27040043/gotomsg/27047098.cfm#27047098, then scroll down 3 posts for a picture of the Canadian eu2000i panel that says "Neutral Floating" and "Neutre Flottant".

[Rvpapa]

I believe that the reason is that the Canadian ones have one leg bonded to the frame as a grounded neutral and the U.S. ones have both legs floating. Compare the two schematics to be sure.
Art.

[mlts22]

Is there some reason why Canada forbids pairing up generators?

[ScottG]

Wayne Dohnal wrote:

ScottG wrote:
Is the Canadian model just missing the pairing jacks?

That's one of the big questions that I don't think has been authoritatively answered. Some opinions confidently say it's only the jacks that are missing, while others say the parallel capability has actually been removed. Based on my electronics industry experience, I bet my nickel that only the jacks are missing.

Thats what I was thinking as well - the guts are probably identical.
I finally found info on the Canadian model. It does indeed appear that the jacks are missing.

eu2000KC2

[Ron3rd]

Robert@Honda; where are you?