โMay-23-2014 06:59 PM
โMay-24-2014 06:18 PM
landyacht318 wrote:
PEA based fuel system cleaners like Techron are highly effective, at cleaning intake valves, on Non direct injected engines, and combustion chambers. GM also recommends it for when the fuel tank floats get sticky, so there has to be some pre injector attributes to the product as well, as the recommendation works, and not just on GM's.
I would not use Seafoam as a fuel stabilizer, and I do not believe claims written on labels. It is proven they will put anything on a label until somebody sues them for misrepresentation, and the only ones who profit from that are the lawyers. So there seems to be some collective understanding between competitors to just let sleeping dogs lie and milk the consumer with clever marketing and outlandish claims with no substance to back them up.
In fact with the content of Seafoam being a good percentage alcohol, I will no longer put any into my tankIn fact with the content of Seafoam being a good percentage alcohol, I will no longer put any into my tank, though I have in the past without issue. Running it through the intake did seem to clean up the Idle a bit, but subjective seat of the pants "butt Dyno"s are hardly Scientific, especially with the human mindset of expecting results from effort or money expended.
Of all the Automotive forums I peruse, there are more fanboys of Seafoam here than anywhere else. On Other forums it is almost a despised product, so I find it amusing to come here and see it praised by some as the holy grail to engine maintenance.
โMay-24-2014 05:58 PM
landyacht318 wrote:Would this be a better choice for my 454 tbi engine?
PEA based fuel system cleaners like Techron are highly effective, at cleaning intake valves, on Non direct injected engines, and combustion chambers. GM also recommends it for when the fuel tank floats get sticky, so there has to be some pre injector attributes to the product as well, as the recommendation works, and not just on GM's.
I would not use Seafoam as a fuel stabilizer, and I do not believe claims written on labels. It is proven they will put anything on a label until somebody sues them for misrepresentation, and the only ones who profit from that are the lawyers. So there seems to be some collective understanding between competitors to just let sleeping dogs lie and milk the consumer with clever marketing and outlandish claims with no substance to back them up.
In fact with the content of Seafoam being a good percentage alcohol, I will no longer put any into my tank, though I have in the past without issue. Running it through the intake did seem to clean up the Idle a bit, but subjective seat of the pants "butt Dyno"s are hardly Scientific, especially with the human mindset of expecting results from effort or money expended.
Of all the Automotive forums I peruse, there are more fanboys of Seafoam here than anywhere else. On Other forums it is almost a despised product, so I find it amusing to come here and see it praised by some as the holy grail to engine maintenance.
โMay-24-2014 01:53 PM
โMay-24-2014 12:06 PM
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โMay-24-2014 09:28 AM
calamus wrote:. Dont be a A$$ unless you are an engineer keep your pie hole shut I will ask if I want your opinion. Just like the OP did, he wanted to know our experiences.John&Joey wrote:calamus wrote:
I have run it in my boat the last few year (seafoam), had to replace a fuel pump and a bunch of other stuff. The dealer had a notice on the wall with pictures to stop using it! It works to good cleans and loosen stuff and it jams up pumps and filters. Was better off with some stabil in the tank. by more that one service tech.
This always cracks me up. So what is going on the Seafoam is breaking off "chunks" and sending them down the fuel line. Or is it taking hard "stuff" and turning it into molasses then sending that down the fuel line plugging up things.
Urban Myth is all they are pandering. Last thing they want is a $9 can of Seafoam fixing their $300 plus repair job.
The Seafoam didn't create your problems, age and bad fuel did. No way a cleaner can take out a fuel pump. That's just silly.
I dont run ethanol in my boats. I guess you are a seafoam rep or something. Why Would the dealer put a service bulletin on the wall warning people to not use seafoam?and the mechanics warn me about it. I did not have any problems till a year or so after using it! You do what you want, When you have problems you will know why
โMay-24-2014 09:20 AM
John&Joey wrote:calamus wrote:
I have run it in my boat the last few year (seafoam), had to replace a fuel pump and a bunch of other stuff. The dealer had a notice on the wall with pictures to stop using it! It works to good cleans and loosen stuff and it jams up pumps and filters. Was better off with some stabil in the tank. by more that one service tech.
This always cracks me up. So what is going on the Seafoam is breaking off "chunks" and sending them down the fuel line. Or is it taking hard "stuff" and turning it into molasses then sending that down the fuel line plugging up things.
Urban Myth is all they are pandering. Last thing they want is a $9 can of Seafoam fixing their $300 plus repair job.
The Seafoam didn't create your problems, age and bad fuel did. No way a cleaner can take out a fuel pump. That's just silly.
โMay-24-2014 08:45 AM
John&Joey wrote:
Urban Myth is all they are pandering. Last thing they want is a $9 can of Seafoam fixing their $300 plus repair job.
The Seafoam didn't create your problems, age and bad fuel did. No way a cleaner can take out a fuel pump. That's just silly.
โMay-24-2014 07:57 AM
โMay-24-2014 07:07 AM
โMay-24-2014 06:57 AM
John&Joey wrote:calamus wrote:
I have run it in my boat the last few year (seafoam), had to replace a fuel pump and a bunch of other stuff. The dealer had a notice on the wall with pictures to stop using it! It works to good cleans and loosen stuff and it jams up pumps and filters. Was better off with some stabil in the tank. by more that one service tech.
This always cracks me up. So what is going on the Seafoam is breaking off "chunks" and sending them down the fuel line. Or is it taking hard "stuff" and turning it into molasses then sending that down the fuel line plugging up things.
Urban Myth is all they are pandering. Last thing they want is a $9 can of Seafoam fixing their $300 plus repair job.
The Seafoam didn't create your problems, age and bad fuel did. No way a cleaner can take out a fuel pump. That's just silly.
Bob & Betsy - USN Aviation Ret'd '78 & LEO Ret'd '03 & "Oath Keeper Forever"
โMay-24-2014 05:26 AM
calamus wrote:
I have run it in my boat the last few year (seafoam), had to replace a fuel pump and a bunch of other stuff. The dealer had a notice on the wall with pictures to stop using it! It works to good cleans and loosen stuff and it jams up pumps and filters. Was better off with some stabil in the tank. by more that one service tech.
โMay-24-2014 12:24 AM
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