Slide In/Out Switch Wiring Help Please

[BFL13]

(I am on limited internet while camping or I could spend the MBs looking this up myself, so if anybody has nothing better to do, please look this up and give me the link so I can go straight to that and see the right wire to wire diagram or description, thanks)

OK , I am replacing the original Lippert switch with one I got at an RV shop. The package does not give a wiring diagram. Rats.

Lippert
- Green switch wire to red motor wire (outboard wire at IN end)
-Red switch wire to black motor wire (outboard wire at OUT end)
Note: actual motor has two wires one red one white- the "Lippert" red and black "motor wires" go to these two wires.
-Black wire to battery positive (middle wire)
-Two whites on switch combined at the trailer white to ground wire

RV Care (rvcare.ca) Switch (Made by American Technology Components)
-Outboard wire at IN end- black
-Outboard wire at OUT end-red
-Middle wire-green
Second wire in at IN end -yellow
Second wire in at OUT end-black

I have tried various ways and got either the IN or OUT to work but never both, plus I have burnt out four 30a fuses so I have given up fooling around. 😞

Monday is a holiday here so I will have to wait till Tuesday to go back and get a wiring diagram or else maybe one of you good folks can give me a steer to the right way to match these wires. (five switch wires, four trailer wires.) Thanks.

[myredracer]

Hopefully you have figured it out now. This link to American Technology may help. American Technology slide & awning switches. Same switch.

I just installed a new awning and a slide switch. The switches were a little different as I got them from different sources. I couldn't figure one out at first and then discovered that you need to jumper two of the terminals together to make the polarity reverse properly. They are just a DPDT switch and I think one has an internal jumper and one doesn't.

[BFL13]

The new switch got the last laugh anyway, even though the wiring diagram is clear. Murphy's Law.

The motor has two wires (red and white) and the red and black wires from there to the switch place inside the trailer have to be connected at the switch end for IN and OUT.

It doesn't matter what the switch's wiring diagram says for the red and black wires to the motor because for sure, whoever put the red and black wires on the motor's red and white wires will nave done them the other way around! Argghh!

So put those two wires at the switch on last after the pos and neg wires are connected. Then you can play trial and error to find out which one is really IN and which is really OUT. 😞

[MEXICOWANDERER]

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[BFL13]

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Betcha nickel he doesn't bother to take a photo of it......

Correct. I did an ink amendment to my Lippert wiring diagram in the handout we got with the trailer. 🙂

Mr Wiz is also correct that I should have been able to figure it out from first principles as he first posted, but you need a working brain for that.

I suppose it is too much to ask for them to put a wiring diagram in the package the switch comes in. Oh well.

[MEXICOWANDERER]

This is how to eliminate slideout switch problems for 336 years

http://www.surpluscenter.com/Electrical/Relays-Contactors-Solenoids/DC-Relays-Contactors-Solenoids/1...

[MEXICOWANDERER]

Betcha nickel he doesn't bother to take a photo of it......

[MrWizard]

looks like you have all the info Now...
good luck

[enblethen]

Hope it solved your problem!

[BFL13]

enblethen wrote:
There is two different wiring, old and new.
Lippert switch wiring

SAVED!! Blessings be upon you. 🙂

[BFL13]

Thanks for the help. Unfortunately, it is not about terminals it is about wires only. No terminals show. Mex shows six but there are five wires. No idea what goes on inside the switch.

The Lippert switch is easy to understand since it has two white wires that both go to trailer ground. The three remaining wires are also easy since the middle bhack wire is for trailer battery positive. That leaves only two wires to pick which one goes where to get IN and OUT right.

This switch I want to connect also has five wires, but you can't figure which are the two that go to the same place. The two blacks are not the same like the Lippert's two whites.
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EDIT--yes they are according to the new switch diagram, but not if you use the yellow as the red like I was doing 🙂 What an episode!

Only hope is that the company has a diagram on its website showing how to adapt theirs to Lippert's. That is what I am asking for, or else I have to wait till mid week to get some help (I failed to note at the RV shop that the package did not contain instructions for which wire is which, and also did not ask them while there. I screwed up. )

[enblethen]

There is two different wiring, old and new.
Lippert switch wiring

[MEXICOWANDERER]

[Wayne_Dohnal]

I can't make heads or tails out of the instructions. If your Lippert slide works the same as my previous one did, the slide switch is a DPDT, center-off, polarity reversing switch. Either the two motor wires or the two power wires go to the switch center terminals. It can work either way. Then the two sets of outer terminals on the switch are connected in crisscross fashion, i.e. upper right to lower left, and lower right to upper left. The power or motor wires, whichever aren't hooked to the center terminals, connect to either end of the switch's outer terminals where the crisscrossed wires are. If the slide operates backwards, reverse either the motor or power wires.

This is all where the switch operates the motor directly. If a relay or controller is involved, it will be different.

[BFL13]

westend wrote:
Check the switch for continuity on all posts/wires with the switch NOT powered, first. This is the same as Mr. Wizard stated. Yes, you can use the older switch if it's functional.

First off you can "power" the switch with whichever wire(s) is/are the neg(s) to either the battery pos or neg as long as you put the switch pos wire(s) (whichever ones they really are--several seem to work!!! )on the other pole's wire from the battery.

You can swap wires to the motor and get it to go in or out (reversing the two 12v motor wires makes it go in or out) So you can go INSANE swapping battery neg and pos and motor neg and pos and then there is always an extra wire left over (five on four) so you can't do both in and out like it is supposed to unless you know the SECRET. 😞 Also the two black wires are great for which one blows the fuse while the other doesn't. Argggh!

Somebody please let me in on the American Technology method to go where the Lippert switch went. Even a 7-pin onto a Chev with its funny wire colours wasn't this bad! 🙂