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Tire engineering question.

jjrbus
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So I go and get rig weighted and inflate rear tires to 10% over psi suggested in load and inflation tables.

Driving along and whats that BOOM noise? Got a blow out on the rear. In a miles long construction zone with no exits or place to pull over. Now one tire on one side is way overloaded, on my RV would be about 30% overload.

Question would be how far can I drive on the remaining tire before destroying it or needing to replace?
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wa8yxm
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I agree with "The partner tire is damaged"
But.. I think I drove a few hundred miles with a flat dual (the inner) and did not find it was flat till I did a visual inspection..

I do not Suggest you try it

Nearest tire place is my suggestion.
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jjrbus
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I did not think of trailer tires when I posted! Interestingly I never considered psi for trailer tires as I never pull a trailer. So I took a quick peek and I'll be, load and inflation tables for STT!

https://tirepressure.com/special-trailer-tire-load-and-inflation-tablehttps://tirepressure.com/special-trailer-tire-load-and-inflation-table

ktmrfs
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In days of bias ply tires, over/under inflation compared to load had a dramatic effect on tire wear patterns. With today's radials overinflation, unless it is extreme seldom causes uneven wear. Underinflation= increased wear, increased heat, low tire life. And many ST tire mfg recommend running at max inflation pressure unless replacing with a much higher load index tire.

Now, I've put 35,K miles on my small trailer and 30K+ miles on my travel trailer. In both cases i ran the original maxis tires to about 20K miles before replaceent at max pressure and wear was even. i replaced them both with Goodyear endurance one LR higher and inflated to max psi. Lower rolling resistance, lower heat buildup and again the tires are wearing very evenly. I'll stick with max or near max pressure rather than messing with actual load/tire and some magical fudge factor.

And in that time I have had NO tire failures of any kind. My neighbor has pulled two different enclosed trailers 35ft a total of over 200K miles, again inflated to max psi, load range higher, no unusual wear, no tire failures.

Now on my cars/trucks I stick with the tire placard in the for inflation.
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Sagebrush
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I'm replacing 5th wheel trailer tires now because I lost the back left one recently. I figure the other tire got overloaded and would probably go boom soon. So I bought two new ones. Then I got to thinking and I'm going replace them all for peace of mind. My spare was really old so I bought 5 new tires in all, maybe I'll get another 3 years 7 months of trouble free running.


But I'm dealing with ST's and they don't do well with age. The one that went boom still looked great on the outside. But the trailer only only had about 900 miles on it this year, lots of sitting around.

Grit_dog
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Iโ€™m not even sure where this thread is goingโ€ฆ
Quotes all in the wrong place. Someone yelling they didnโ€™t have a tire failure but i think they didโ€ฆlol.
If tires are pretty new Iโ€™d rock the overloaded one. If theyโ€™re older, Iโ€™d probably replace it.
But no one knows what either tire was subjected to.
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Dusty_R
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Anyone ever check how accrete their tire pressure gauge is? I have several gages and one reads quit a bit different than the others.

I believe that heat can cause quite a bit of damage to a tire, and load and speed cause heat. So when one duel blows and you drive slower because you are running with a blown tire, that helps the good one make it.

jjrbus
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Tal/IL wrote:
jjrbus wrote:
So I go and get rig weighted and inflate rear tires to 10% over psi suggested in load and inflation tables.


I DID NOT HAVE A TIRE FAILURE. I keep getting told to run tires at much higher pressure in case I get a blow out, makes no sense.


Your tire failure may have been totally unrelated to air pressure. Still, I am curious: how did "10% over psi suggested in load and inflation tables" compare to sidewall max pressure?


In my mini Toyota sidewall max psi is 65, load and inflation table load range D tire calls for 39 psi, I run 43 and use TPMS.

n0arp
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I tend to agree, I'd personally replace both tires afterwards for peace of mind.
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MNRon
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What Old Biscuit said
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Old-Biscuit
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One tire blow out on a Dual means the other tire was instantly overloaded......damage is done and increases with drive time

No place to safely pull off....then you drive on it until you can safely pull over EVEN if it blows and your on the rim.

Gonna need 2 new tires regardless.
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Tal_IL
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jjrbus wrote:
So I go and get rig weighted and inflate rear tires to 10% over psi suggested in load and inflation tables.


Your tire failure may have been totally unrelated to air pressure. Still, I am curious: how did "10% over psi suggested in load and inflation tables" compare to sidewall max pressure?
35 miles from Normal, IL. As close to normal as I'll ever be.

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JKJavelin
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You will find all kinds of tire engineers right here on this forum.
To answer your question (as a non-engineer), I would replace it ASAP, I wouldn't trust it.
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n0arp
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I have no specific answers to this, but an anecdotal one. We limped a friend's MH about 25mi to town on just an inner once. That inner was certainly very overloaded, and is still in service with a repaired outer several months later.
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Lwiddis
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Yes but replace the unblown tire as soon as you can.
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