โFeb-12-2021 08:21 PM
โFeb-21-2021 01:03 AM
rjstractor wrote:RoyJ wrote:
we love pickups so much they developed their own sub-categories of "light" and "heavy". Throw in marketing, enter the Ford, not light, not even heavy, but "super" duty!
In the real trucking world, yes, they're all light. However, North American market demands 400+ hp trucks that can yank an 18,000 lbs trailer up a grade at 70 mph. So in the power sense an F350 really is "heavy duty" by any standard. i.e. more power than some Class 8s.
I'd personally love a light COE truck, with 4x4. But realize I'm in the 1% enthusiast group, and OEMs won't cater to us.
I like the way they drive too. I see one running around my area that's all built up as a fifth wheel puller. I'd like to ask him what he's done to the motor, if anything. When I was still doing landscaping I test drove a really nice little Fuso 4x4 dump truck. Problem was it was so underpowered it could barely get out of it's own way empty. Towing or hauling a heavy load would have been miserably slow.
โFeb-21-2021 01:00 AM
RoyJ wrote:
The Fuso, a lowly 161 hp. But, it's meant for efficiency in commercial use, not high performance recreation.
Recreation demands "fun factor". Look at boats - an offshore sports fisher can run 1500 hp, all to catch 3 tunas. A commercial trawler with a 25,000 lbs salmon hold may run a 90hp Perkins.
โFeb-21-2021 12:58 AM
Grit dog wrote:rjstractor wrote:
I test drove a really nice little Fuso 4x4 dump truck. Problem was it was so underpowered it could barely get out of it's own way empty. Towing or hauling a heavy load would have been miserably slow.
Yeah, RR, what kind of power are these "light trucks" putting down?
They're cool, but seems all our class 5-7 COE trucks here are pretty neutered in the power department.
โFeb-19-2021 01:28 PM
โFeb-19-2021 09:12 AM
rjstractor wrote:
I test drove a really nice little Fuso 4x4 dump truck. Problem was it was so underpowered it could barely get out of it's own way empty. Towing or hauling a heavy load would have been miserably slow.
โFeb-18-2021 06:13 PM
RoyJ wrote:
we love pickups so much they developed their own sub-categories of "light" and "heavy". Throw in marketing, enter the Ford, not light, not even heavy, but "super" duty!
In the real trucking world, yes, they're all light. However, North American market demands 400+ hp trucks that can yank an 18,000 lbs trailer up a grade at 70 mph. So in the power sense an F350 really is "heavy duty" by any standard. i.e. more power than some Class 8s.
I'd personally love a light COE truck, with 4x4. But realize I'm in the 1% enthusiast group, and OEMs won't cater to us.
โFeb-16-2021 08:45 PM
RoyJ wrote:
we love pickups so much they developed their own sub-categories of "light" and "heavy". Throw in marketing, enter the Ford, not light, not even heavy, but "super" duty!
In the real trucking world, yes, they're all light. However, North American market demands 400+ hp trucks that can yank an 18,000 lbs trailer up a grade at 70 mph. So in the power sense an F350 really is "heavy duty" by any standard. i.e. more power than some Class 8s.
I'd personally love a light COE truck, with 4x4. But realize I'm in the 1% enthusiast
group, and OEMs won't cater to us.
โFeb-16-2021 08:22 PM
โFeb-13-2021 07:50 PM
โFeb-13-2021 07:33 PM
free radical wrote:
When you say light Jpn trucks these come to mind ๐
https://youtu.be/NKqSZD6-Y4Q
โFeb-13-2021 05:53 PM
โFeb-13-2021 05:34 PM
rjstractor wrote:
You can't throw a rock around here without hitting one. They are very popular with landscaping companies and you see lots of box trucks too. I can't imagine them ever catching on as a tow vehicle for a travel trailer when a full size HD pickup is better at that specific job in every way except turning radius. There are many other jobs that these trucks excel at but as a personal use tow vehicle, not so much.
โFeb-13-2021 05:31 PM
blt2ski wrote:fj12ryder wrote:
I wouldn't call and truck that has a payload capacity of over 8 tons "light".
Unfortunately, light in Oz includes all rigs to about 25-30k gvw. Where as here, you are up into the class 7 max 33k gvw both light duty to 14k g w, then medium duty from 14001-33,000 gvw.
So I would suggest EVERYONE take OPs light vs med vs heavy vs super train truck classifications with a grain of salt.
Marty
โFeb-13-2021 05:28 PM
blt2ski wrote:
So I would suggest EVERYONE take OP a grain of salt.
Marty
โFeb-13-2021 05:27 PM
folivier wrote:
Years ago I rented a UHaul truck for a 100 mile move. Great, an Isuzu diesel, should get great mileage. By the end of the trip my back and right leg were killing me. Had to keep the darn thing floored to make 60 mph!