Light Japanese Trucks used as Tow Vehicles here

[RobertRyan]

Much to my surprise Japanese Light Trucks are gaining momentum for pulling 26ft+ Travel Trailers

[Grit_dog]

Gene K 2 wrote:
Well it depends on whose definition you use I suppose. EPA defines 8500 or less as Light, 8501-10000 as Light-Heavy.



But apparently a Class 8 is considered a Medium by some definitions as the tires they take are classified as Medium Truck Tires.

You’re confusing emissions classifications with DOT or specifically FHWA vehicle classifications.

Regardless, not worth arguing over. However the commonly referred to vehicle classes of light, medium, heavy are based on FHWA classifications as long as I can remember.

[ShinerBock]

Light-heavy is still a light duty vehicle per the EPA and NHTSA who set the ratings. It is just on the heavy side of the three light classes, but it should not be confused for a heavy duty class witch is class 7 & 8.

[Gene_K_2]

Well it depends on whose definition you use I suppose. EPA defines 8500 or less as Light, 8501-10000 as Light-Heavy.



But apparently a Class 8 is considered a Medium by some definitions as the tires they take are classified as Medium Truck Tires.

[blt2ski]

Gene,

Your up to 8500 covers class 1 to 6000,
2a 6001-8500
does not include 2b 8501-10000
class 3 10001-14000

medium is 14,000 to 33000
heavy is 33000 on up.

marty

[ShinerBock]

blt2ski wrote:
Gene

False on US definition of light duty truck. ANY truck meeting USDOT class 1-3 us a light duty vehicle. This is about 14,000 and light gvw.

Marty

You beat me to it.

[blt2ski]

Gene

False on US definition of light duty truck. ANY truck meeting USDOT class 1-3 us a light duty vehicle. This is about 14,000 and light gvw.

Marty

[Gene_K_2]

First saw this I thought he was talking about a Kei Truck as that's the Japanese Light Truck. Of course anything other than a tiny pop up would be a stretch for one of those. Not to mention Feds have been cracking down on the states that would register them for street use.

US definition of Light Duty Truck is 8500 lb Gross and 6,000 lb Empty.

[Grit_dog]

opnspaces wrote:
I have to take it the other way Grit. I have always enjoyed seeing a post from RobertRyan showing what's in Australia.

Oh yeah I like looking at the pictures. But the smug passive aggressive digs on North America lead me to believe he got dumped by an American chick at some point and can’t let it go.

[Jarlaxle]

Wow. That is...absolutely pathetic.

[ShinerBock]

rjstractor wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
That Australian NPR 45/155 is just called NPR in the US. The company I work for owns over 20 commercial truck Isuzu dealerships across the US and do not sell many of these versus other comparable class 3/4/5 cab and chassis options that we offer.

In Australia, the NPR 45/155 only has a GVM(GVWR) of 5,500 kg (12,000 lbs) and a GCM(GCWR) of 9,000 kg(19,800 lbs). That is not a lot considering comparable DRW F350/3500 regular cab and chassis version of our trucks has a GVWR(GVM) of 14,000 lbs and a GCWR(GCM) of up to 32,500 lbs (14,700 kg). In all actuality, the specs of the DRW NPR 45/155 pictured would be more in line with our SRW regular cab 250/2500/350/3500 cab and chassis trucks or DRW E-350 cab in chassis vans.

The other downside is that the small 5.2L diesel in this thing only has 152 hp/309 lb-ft versus 330-360 hp/800+ lb-ft in our cab in chassis trucks. So yeah, the OP is correct when he said it is light since these are classified as "light duty" trucks in the US as well.

IIRC the 5.2L is 215hp/452 torque, still well under domestic trucks. I think the 152/309 version is the 3.0L that is in the "eco" version of the N-series.

You are correct for the US version. However the Australian or overseas version of the 5.2L in the OP's picture is 153 hp (114kw).

Isuzu NPR 45/155

[rjstractor]

ShinerBock wrote:
That Australian NPR 45/155 is just called NPR in the US. The company I work for owns over 20 commercial truck Isuzu dealerships across the US and do not sell many of these versus other comparable class 3/4/5 cab and chassis options that we offer.

In Australia, the NPR 45/155 only has a GVM(GVWR) of 5,500 kg (12,000 lbs) and a GCM(GCWR) of 9,000 kg(19,800 lbs). That is not a lot considering comparable DRW F350/3500 regular cab and chassis version of our trucks has a GVWR(GVM) of 14,000 lbs and a GCWR(GCM) of up to 32,500 lbs (14,700 kg). In all actuality, the specs of the DRW NPR 45/155 pictured would be more in line with our SRW regular cab 250/2500/350/3500 cab and chassis trucks or DRW E-350 cab in chassis vans.

The other downside is that the small 5.2L diesel in this thing only has 152 hp/309 lb-ft versus 330-360 hp/800+ lb-ft in our cab in chassis trucks. So yeah, the OP is correct when he said it is light since these are classified as "light duty" trucks in the US as well.

IIRC the 5.2L is 215hp/452 torque, still well under domestic trucks. I think the 152/309 version is the 3.0L that is in the "eco" version of the N-series.

[Jarlaxle]

At least you can get the NPR with gas power in the US.

[ShinerBock]

That Australian NPR 45/155 is just called NPR in the US. The company I work for owns over 20 commercial truck Isuzu dealerships across the US and do not sell many of these versus other comparable class 3/4/5 cab and chassis options that we offer.

In Australia, the NPR 45/155 only has a GVM(GVWR) of 5,500 kg (12,000 lbs) and a GCM(GCWR) of 9,000 kg(19,800 lbs). That is not a lot considering comparable DRW F350/3500 regular cab and chassis version of our trucks has a GVWR(GVM) of 14,000 lbs and a GCWR(GCM) of up to 32,500 lbs (14,700 kg). In all actuality, the specs of the DRW NPR 45/155 pictured would be more in line with our SRW regular cab 250/2500/350/3500 cab and chassis trucks or DRW E-350 cab in chassis vans.

The other downside is that the small 5.2L diesel in this thing only has 152 hp/309 lb-ft versus 330-360 hp/800+ lb-ft in our cab in chassis trucks. So yeah, the OP is correct when he said it is light since these are classified as "light duty" trucks in the US as well.

[Slownsy]

Grit Dog it is not all about America, if you don’t want to read about what others do then don’t.
By the way I don’t believe you can purchase any new Dodge trucks in America.
Frank.