'14 ram 2500 loses the leafs

[jbardram]

Didn't see this posted anywhere yet. In the release about the 6.4 hemi it mentions the 2500 will have the same rear suspension setup as the 1500 without losing any capacity. Bold and what I think is a smart move by ram. Will certainly better differentiate the 2500 from 3500 as has been often discussed here. They are making an aggressive play for market share with quite a few firsts of late (8spd, LD diesel, air suspension etc)...

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2013/06/ram-hd-6-4-official

[Engineer9860]

bmanning wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:

bmanning wrote:
This ride quality discussion makes me miss my 2002 Super Duty; perhaps I'm suffering from selective memory but I swear it rode better than my 2008 Super Duty does. Maybe the 7.3L (much heavier than my 08's 5.4L) weight made the difference but that truck rode like big limo with less bounciness than my coil-sprung-in-front 08.

Looking forward to the day that 1-ton P/Us get full air suspensions like their class 8 big brothers run.

Your memory is not faulty. The ride of my 03 Superduty was definitely softer than my current 09. I suspect growing GVWR's every year are to blame.

True, quite likely I feel the result of increased capacity; my 08 isn't unpleasant per se but it rides less smoothly than my 02 did. What was I thinking selling that truck? LOL. (Oh now I remember...diesel was about $4.75/gal back in 2008 when I sold it...)

The 2004 F-450 I had was a 14,500# GVWR truck, my current '08 F-450 is a 16,000# GVWR truck. I doubt the extra capacity comes without a penalty. And yes my '08 seems to ride rougher while empty.

[Cummins12V98]

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
The new front suspension should have been installed on the 2500 '13 models as well. The bone jarring ride of the current 4 link front suspension is one of the reasons I ran away from purchasing a RAM.

I love the ride of my 11 HO Dually 4X4 even unloaded.

I suppose the HO part could make all the difference in the ride quality! :W

UH....Yea It makes the truck jump over the bombs more better!

[bmanning]

fla-gypsy wrote:

bmanning wrote:
This ride quality discussion makes me miss my 2002 Super Duty; perhaps I'm suffering from selective memory but I swear it rode better than my 2008 Super Duty does. Maybe the 7.3L (much heavier than my 08's 5.4L) weight made the difference but that truck rode like big limo with less bounciness than my coil-sprung-in-front 08.

Looking forward to the day that 1-ton P/Us get full air suspensions like their class 8 big brothers run.

Your memory is not faulty. The ride of my 03 Superduty was definitely softer than my current 09. I suspect growing GVWR's every year are to blame.

True, quite likely I feel the result of increased capacity; my 08 isn't unpleasant per se but it rides less smoothly than my 02 did. What was I thinking selling that truck? LOL. (Oh now I remember...diesel was about $4.75/gal back in 2008 when I sold it...)

[Engineer9860]

This is not going to set well with the big tire/tall lift community.

[fla-gypsy]

bmanning wrote:
This ride quality discussion makes me miss my 2002 Super Duty; perhaps I'm suffering from selective memory but I swear it rode better than my 2008 Super Duty does. Maybe the 7.3L (much heavier than my 08's 5.4L) weight made the difference but that truck rode like big limo with less bounciness than my coil-sprung-in-front 08.

Looking forward to the day that 1-ton P/Us get full air suspensions like their class 8 big brothers run.

Your memory is not faulty. The ride of my 03 Superduty was definitely softer than my current 09. I suspect growing GVWR's every year are to blame.

[FishOnOne]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
The new front suspension should have been installed on the 2500 '13 models as well. The bone jarring ride of the current 4 link front suspension is one of the reasons I ran away from purchasing a RAM.

I love the ride of my 11 HO Dually 4X4 even unloaded.

I suppose the HO part could make all the difference in the ride quality! :W

[Cummins12V98]

FishOnOne wrote:
The new front suspension should have been installed on the 2500 '13 models as well. The bone jarring ride of the current 4 link front suspension is one of the reasons I ran away from purchasing a RAM.

I love the ride of my 11 HO Dually 4X4 even unloaded.

[bmanning]

This ride quality discussion makes me miss my 2002 Super Duty; perhaps I'm suffering from selective memory but I swear it rode better than my 2008 Super Duty does. Maybe the 7.3L (much heavier than my 08's 5.4L) weight made the difference but that truck rode like big limo with less bounciness than my coil-sprung-in-front 08.

Looking forward to the day that 1-ton P/Us get full air suspensions like their class 8 big brothers run.

[FishOnOne]

DirtyOil wrote:

My comment is directed towards the 3/4 tons... The RAM's 4 link rides very similar to Fords inverted leaf spring setup

you are comparing the 1/2 ton trucks (Ram1500 vs F150) and not the 3/4 ton trucks, right? As the OP topic is the Ram2500 getting four link/coil suspension.

To be clear... I'm referring to 3/4 ton trucks front suspensions.

[DirtyOil]

My comment is directed towards the 3/4 tons... The RAM's 4 link rides very similar to Fords inverted leaf spring setup

you are comparing the 1/2 ton trucks (Ram1500 vs F150) and not the 3/4 ton trucks, right? As the OP topic is the Ram2500 getting four link/coil suspension.

[FishOnOne]

catfishmontana wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
The new front suspension should have been installed on the 2500 '13 models as well. The bone jarring ride of the current 4 link front suspension is one of the reasons I ran away from purchasing a RAM.

Bone jarring? Mine rides better than previous 2011 F350 when unloaded. I think that all the newer offerings from the big three HD trucks ride great for what they are. Heck, even ten years or so ago the ride was much worse.

My comment is directed towards the 3/4 tons... The RAM's 4 link rides very similar to Fords inverted leaf spring setup.

[spoon059]

Thats awesome, I wonder how much it adds to the cost though. Sounds like a great factory option. I've been leery on Chrysler products for a long time, here is to hoping that they have turned the corner on reliability and will continue to increase their share in the market. In my opinion, the light duty truck market has seen a LOT of innovation over the past 6 or 7 years.

[catfishmontana]

FishOnOne wrote:
The new front suspension should have been installed on the 2500 '13 models as well. The bone jarring ride of the current 4 link front suspension is one of the reasons I ran away from purchasing a RAM.

Bone jarring? Mine rides better than previous 2011 F350 when unloaded. I think that all the newer offerings from the big three HD trucks ride great for what they are. Heck, even ten years or so ago the ride was much worse.

[larry_barnhart]

45Ricochet wrote:
I read about it yesterday and I found the air bags on the 3500 interesting also. I was wondering if the 2014 MY are going to use softer leaf springs for ride comfort when not towing, and air up the bags for heavy loads. I frankly don't understand adding air bags to a 3500 DRW unless something changed from the 2013 springs.

LOL on edit
I should have read your link first. Yes softer springs. I'm certainly glad they had the hitch adapter problem which resulted in me waiting till next spring to buy a new truck :B

Your 06 doesn't look used yet or a million miles on the engine. heh heh gotta ya.
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