cancel
Showing results forย 
Search instead forย 
Did you mean:ย 

3" receiver on new 2017 SD = stinger is easy now?

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
Anybody tried it yet? I just found that my new truck has 3" receiver with 20k rating.
I think I can buy 3" tubing and make good stinger very cheap.
34 REPLIES 34

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
I think you guys misunderstood the concept behind TL stinger.
It is not a truss. They are 2 separate tubings. The loose bracket is not design to hold anything.
At least that is what I observe on pictures and videos.
So coming back to my calculation, single 3" tubing has about 90 percent of strength of TL stinger.
I even assumed TL stinger has 2.5" tubing all the way, what is not always the case?

BradW
Explorer II
Explorer II
kohldad wrote:
A truss is far superior then just the amount of material used.


Agreed. Comes down to tow weight, stinger length, how much you tow and how much of a safety factor you want vs risk you will accept.

Our 24" long by 2-1/2" stinger has pulled our 7,500 lb car hauler/jeep many miles behind our 2006 F-350 DRW. But, me thinks 24" is about as long as I would go with that setup towing that weight.

If I were to need a 48" stinger towing 7,500 lbs, I would definitely go with the TorkLift SuperHitch set up.

Brad
Wake Up America
2019 Lance 1062 and 2018 F-350 CC PSD 4X4 DRW
Tembrens, Rear Roadmaster Sway Bar, Torklift 48" Extention and 30K Superhitch
Our New Lance 1062 Truck Camper Unloading at Dealer Photos

kohldad
Explorer III
Explorer III
A truss is far superior then just the amount of material used. This makes them much more sufficient and why they are used. Because the two tubes of the super truss are spaced apart, the strength is far superior to just increasing the size of a single tube one size.

Your 3" tube has vertical leverage of 3" while the super truss has a vertical leverage of at least 5" (assuming 2" tubes).

However, on side-to-side loading, you are correct that the 3" tube is comparable to the side loading of the supertruss. But since it is still less than the double tube, why would you think you can get by without the chains. Probably could in most situations, but not in an emergency situation.

Not saying it won't work, but just trying to make sure you have considered things so you have an enjoyable trip.
2015 Ram 3500 4x4 Crew Cab SRW 6.4 Hemi LB 3.73 (12.4 hand calc avg mpg after 92,000 miles with camper)
2004 Lance 815 (prev: 2004 FW 35'; 1994 TT 30'; Tents)

jimh406
Explorer III
Explorer III
I think either way, some fitting is required unless you left it full length.

'10 Ford F-450, 6.4, 4.30, 4x4, 14,500 GVWR, '06 Host Rainer 950 DS, Torklift Talon tiedowns, Glow Steps, and Fastguns. Bilstein 4600s, Firestone Bags, Toyo M655 Gs, Curt front hitch, Energy Suspension bump stops.

NRA Life Member, CCA Life Member

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
Yeah. The $30 plus 1/2 hr of work to make ordinary beam working as stinger sure beats the expense and labor of fitting those aftermarket stingers.

Fish_mojo
Explorer
Explorer
With the 3" Super Duty hitch, if you are using a TC that has an overhang that requires a 36" or 48" extension to tow a boat with 500# tongue weight, can this now be done without a Torklift super truss extension? This would be great not having to swap out the factory receiver and install the TL receiver and extension.

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
BTW funny how manufacturers design their product.
I have CURT 2 5/16" ball rated for 30,000 lb that I bought about 10 years ago.
Only lately could find 2.5" ball mounts, but even the "anchor" is cast iron, the rating is only 20k.
Meaning the old 30k ball has no mount to be used at its capacity.

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
kohldad wrote:
How much weight are you towing?

There is a big difference between the 3" single tube and the 5-6" span of the super truss, not to mention the supertruss is double the tubing.

I would think with a 20k rating, the hitch connection to the frame is probably pretty close to that of the supertruss though.


Long time since I quit practicing mechanical design, but the weight carrying capacity comes with square of cross section of the beam.
So assuming all tubings are 1/4" walls, the suppertust has 1 of 2.5" tubing and 1 of 2" tubing.
That makes squares 6.25+4=10.25 strength number.
3" square gives me number 9 alone.
Than weak point is going to be receiver alone and hard to beat 3"
I am buying 10k cargo trailer, but even if I pull it behind camper - don't intend to have it loaded.
The stinger will be mostly used with my PWC trailer, that weights 700 lb.

BradW
Explorer II
Explorer II
https://www.reese-hitches.com/products/Super_Titan_3_inch_Receiver_Hitch,38023

3" receiver is news to me, but I likey. ๐Ÿ™‚

Brad
Wake Up America
2019 Lance 1062 and 2018 F-350 CC PSD 4X4 DRW
Tembrens, Rear Roadmaster Sway Bar, Torklift 48" Extention and 30K Superhitch
Our New Lance 1062 Truck Camper Unloading at Dealer Photos

Grit_dog
Navigator
Navigator
Well looks like etrailer has a few options for 3".
These trucks keep getting bigger by the year.
2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5โ€ turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

Grit_dog
Navigator
Navigator
The new fords now have a 3" receiver hitch? That's cool I guess, but it's hard to even find 2.5" components and they've been out for years.
Bet the parts department has some "factory" stingers for a pretty price.
What's the load bearing weight rating in the new hitches? Finally something that has a sticker allowing some real tongue weight?
2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5โ€ turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

kohldad
Explorer III
Explorer III
How much weight are you towing?

There is a big difference between the 3" single tube and the 5-6" span of the super truss, not to mention the supertruss is double the tubing.

I would think with a 20k rating, the hitch connection to the frame is probably pretty close to that of the supertruss though.
2015 Ram 3500 4x4 Crew Cab SRW 6.4 Hemi LB 3.73 (12.4 hand calc avg mpg after 92,000 miles with camper)
2004 Lance 815 (prev: 2004 FW 35'; 1994 TT 30'; Tents)

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II

Click For Full-Size Image.

$30 worth of steel and looks pretty good.
The 2.5 to 2" adapter fits pretty tight inside the 3" x 1/4" tubing, so I will have to do some sanding. Than drill the holes and I might even go without chains.

Rubiranch
Explorer
Explorer


I bought this 2 1/2" - 34" from Curt via Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00537ESCQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Camp Host, from the other side.

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
It is 3" and I have 2 step-down adapters to come to 2".
I did order truck with tow package, what come with 5 cameras and maybe the big hitch is unlisted part of it?
It is 21,000lb rated btw.