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Accident I79 North of Pittsburgh

Gdetrailer
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Nasty accident on I79 involving two semi trucks and a pickup truck towing a trailer..

Northbound near Zelienople PA

WPXI NEWS

Hope everyone is OK, news hasn't reported anything about condition of folks involved..

Traffic is a mess..
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fil564
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To add to more headaches for travelers on 79, this was in the paper today because of this accident.

Travel Advisory – Emergency Bridge Repair Project on I-79 in Butler County
The bridge carrying I-79 over East Lancaster Road has been restricted to one lane in both directions between the intersections of Route 19 and Route 3025 (Yellow Creek Road) after a truck crash damaged a beam. This bridge is located in Lancaster Township, Butler County.

Beginning the week of May 5, the road passing under I-79 (East Lancaster Road) will be closed to facilitate the bridge repairs. A detour will be in place (please see the map below for the detour route). The road is expected to reopen on May 24.

The work for this emergency bridge repair project includes the removal and replacement of two overhead beams.

This $500,000 emergency bridge repair project is being constructed by Thornberry Construction of West Sunbury and is expected to be completed by August.
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I see both sides, as I used to commute on one of the worst highways in the US (I-35 through Austin). I've seen real bad auto drivers nearly cause wrecks, and I've seen hyper-aggressive NAFTA truck drivers rear-end vehicles since they didn't want to let anyone in, in front, so they leave no gap... which then a subsequent stop from a vehicle ahead causes a crash.

Best thing one can do is keep distance around, keep the insurance current, and keep the drive cam rolling.

rbpru
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Anyone who was been in an accident or near miss knows that it is usually a series of small mistakes that come together. Fatigue, inattention, mechanical failure and/or dumb luck also play a part.

It is the result of being human and there is not much we can do about that; except to try to anticipate the unlikely.

I sure hope those folks were okay, trucks can be replaced. Thanks for posting, it is good to have a reality check once in a while.
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fil564
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I see both sides of the argument, being someone that has a Class B and has driven straight trucks and has had quite a bit of interaction with truck drivers. Yes there are truck drivers that do not pay attention or are not experienced enough at what they are doing. I try not to drive next to them because of how many times we had to load trucks and teach them how to properly secure the load. The other side is when you are hauling 30,00# in stop and go traffic and you purposely leave enough space for you to stop, how many ignorant people think that the space is there for them to slide in at the last second. All that weight does not stop instantaneously.
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It is like motorcycles always blame cars.. It may be difficult to see motorcycles, but when they are going 80mph in a 40mph limit and a car pulls out...whose fault is that? (Or when they are weaving in/out of traffic and get hit... ) Same thing.
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I have a friend who drove big rigs in the military and he constantly blames auto drivers for any accident involving a semi.

He talks about how safe the semi drivers are and how reckless the auto drivers are.

I just agree to disagree, as I have seen MANY semi drivers cutting cars off to switch lanes to make the appropriate interchange at the last minute. I have also seen them fail to anticipate slowing traffic and damn near rear end several cars.


Absolutely! The other issue is that 99% of the other drivers on the road pay zero attention to what's happening behind them. I can't believe how many will end up at the back of a jamb, due to construction or an accident ahead, stop 4' from the guy in front, and NEVER look in the mirror. I can't count the number of times I see idiots sliding to a stop behind me, since they are not paying the least bit of attention to what is going on. One day, out on RT 80, I was last in line at a dead stopped jamb, driving an F250 and a travel trailer attached. I left a good 150' in front, and immediately shifted my focus to the mirrors. Sure enough, a semi driver was closing fast, still doing 70MPH. I was beginning to take the escape route of stuffing my rig down the shoulder between the guiderail and the stopped traffic, as he started to jack knife. By the time it was over, I had used my 150 ft. of cushion, and was about to stuff the nose in the gap, while he had slid sideways a few hundred feet with the trailer sideways, and all the brakes smoking. I know for a fact that most of the cars ahead missed the show, since they never even bothered to check the mirror. Not saying that this accident was preventable, but they are a lot more survivable if you stop driving like a proctologist, and leave enough room that you aren't blasted into the back of another rig, because you aren't driving defensively.
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Gdetrailer
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IndyCamp wrote:
Gdetrailer wrote:
TucsonJim wrote:
That's terrible looking. The truck pulling the fiver looks pretty tore up, but the passenger compartment might have been minimally impacted. Hoping that nobody was seriously hurt.

This is purely a guess, but it looks like the TV/FW might have been following too closely and hit the rear of the truck. But who knows, it might have been a lane change error by one of the other parties or 100 different reasons.


A big rig trucker is being blamed for the accident.

Traffic was slowing down due to a lane restriction (by the way the restriction is poorly marked and completely hidden by a blind curve) when a tractor-trailer slammed into a Jeep Liberty pushing the Liberty off the road. Trucker continued on and slammed into the rear of the camper pushing the the front end of the pickup into the rear of another semi. Mean while the first semi continued on to eventually veer off the road and UP an STEEP embankment hitting the southbound guard rails.

Two people from the pickup and one from the SUV were flown to nearby hospitals, truck drivers unhurt.

No info on how bad the injuries were.

Road was closed over 5 hrs.

No "need" to blame the folks who were driving the pickup, they were victims of being the monkey in the middle of a chain reaction.


I have a friend who drove big rigs in the military and he constantly blames auto drivers for any accident involving a semi.

He talks about how safe the semi drivers are and how reckless the auto drivers are.

I just agree to disagree, as I have seen MANY semi drivers cutting cars off to switch lanes to make the appropriate interchange at the last minute. I have also seen them fail to anticipate slowing traffic and damn near rear end several cars.

Semi drivers are still human and are still prone to the same lapses in attention and judgement as every other driver of every other vehicle. Unfortunately, their lapses can be much more dangerous.


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I see both sides of the coin a lot since part of my daily drive IS on that section of highway. Can't tell you how many times I have seen both truckers and other motorists whipping between lanes..

A lot of road rage happens since this road is a heavily used north and south truck route and not to mention camping and commuters..

It is frustrating to get stuck behind folks who for some unknown reason feel that they are empowered to hang in the fast lane driving the same speed as the slow lane severely clogging the roads unnecessarily.

Distracted driving is another issue I have seen over the years making things even worse.. Got a GPS? Well I can't tell you just how annoying BRIGHT they are to the drivers BEHIND the vehicle they are in and even worse when that driver is staying in the fast lane once again clogging the road..

Cell phones and texting, see it daily, even seen some with a laptop or book mounted to the steering wheels???

That lane restriction today has me thinking of changing my route to a slower and more painful route which is full of school zones..

Had a accident happen right behind me today in that same area, heard the tires screech and looked in my mirror and watched a white car sliding off the road after it hit the vehicle behind me..

Not sure what PADOT was thinking when they decided to close the lane in the manor they did but they are really the ones to be blamed for this accident. Bad execution on their part by placing a lane restriction on a 65 MPH road with ZERO visibility of that restriction. They should have closed the road a few tenths of a mile south BEFORE the turn in the road...

They only had two signs about a mile before the closure, now they have added about a dozen new signs (a little too late)..

With towing you might understand that you can't stop on a dime BUT other motorists may not understand this so you really need to drive defensively at all times..

IndyCamp
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Gdetrailer wrote:
TucsonJim wrote:
That's terrible looking. The truck pulling the fiver looks pretty tore up, but the passenger compartment might have been minimally impacted. Hoping that nobody was seriously hurt.

This is purely a guess, but it looks like the TV/FW might have been following too closely and hit the rear of the truck. But who knows, it might have been a lane change error by one of the other parties or 100 different reasons.


A big rig trucker is being blamed for the accident.

Traffic was slowing down due to a lane restriction (by the way the restriction is poorly marked and completely hidden by a blind curve) when a tractor-trailer slammed into a Jeep Liberty pushing the Liberty off the road. Trucker continued on and slammed into the rear of the camper pushing the the front end of the pickup into the rear of another semi. Mean while the first semi continued on to eventually veer off the road and UP an STEEP embankment hitting the southbound guard rails.

Two people from the pickup and one from the SUV were flown to nearby hospitals, truck drivers unhurt.

No info on how bad the injuries were.

Road was closed over 5 hrs.

No "need" to blame the folks who were driving the pickup, they were victims of being the monkey in the middle of a chain reaction.


I have a friend who drove big rigs in the military and he constantly blames auto drivers for any accident involving a semi.

He talks about how safe the semi drivers are and how reckless the auto drivers are.

I just agree to disagree, as I have seen MANY semi drivers cutting cars off to switch lanes to make the appropriate interchange at the last minute. I have also seen them fail to anticipate slowing traffic and damn near rear end several cars.

Semi drivers are still human and are still prone to the same lapses in attention and judgement as every other driver of every other vehicle. Unfortunately, their lapses can be much more dangerous.
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Gdetrailer
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TucsonJim wrote:
That's terrible looking. The truck pulling the fiver looks pretty tore up, but the passenger compartment might have been minimally impacted. Hoping that nobody was seriously hurt.

This is purely a guess, but it looks like the TV/FW might have been following too closely and hit the rear of the truck. But who knows, it might have been a lane change error by one of the other parties or 100 different reasons.


A big rig trucker is being blamed for the accident.

Traffic was slowing down due to a lane restriction (by the way the restriction is poorly marked and completely hidden by a blind curve) when a tractor-trailer slammed into a Jeep Liberty pushing the Liberty off the road. Trucker continued on and slammed into the rear of the camper pushing the the front end of the pickup into the rear of another semi. Mean while the first semi continued on to eventually veer off the road and UP an STEEP embankment hitting the southbound guard rails.

Two people from the pickup and one from the SUV were flown to nearby hospitals, truck drivers unhurt.

No info on how bad the injuries were.

Road was closed over 5 hrs.

No "need" to blame the folks who were driving the pickup, they were victims of being the monkey in the middle of a chain reaction.

Folks, as the summer travel and camping season is now ramping up please be careful!

flash82
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Wait, what... Where are all the comments about too much trailer for that truck..etc. Am disapointed.

Hope all are alright. "Police said a tractor trailer struck two vehicles and forced one into a semi-truck"

Go_Dogs
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My dad had a head-on collision while pulling a TT. To look at the TT, it looked fine, but it had slid up on the frame by a tiny amount. Big problems, later on.

anaro
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Article says 2 were flown from the scene via medical helicopter. Not good. Hope they make out ok. On the bright side, even though the tv is totaled the 5er might be ok unless the abrupt stop caused pin damage.
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Hard to say what happen but the pick-up passenger side is pushed up under the truck clear into the cab…Hope all survived but it doesn’t look good… While I haven’t a clue on what happened either, it does look like the red truck is fully in his lane of traffic, and there’s a good chance the 5er was following to close or not paying attention
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Go_Dogs
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I also thought that maybe the fiver was too close, but anyway that's a very bad curve there.