axle rating vs GVWR

[alaskadoug]

The specs for a 2019 Lance 1575 says that the axle (single) is rated for 2530 pounds, The GVWR for the trailer says 3700 pounds. If I understand correctly you should not exceed the axle rating. What am I missing?

[time2roll]

Mine is 7880 GVWR. 2x 3500 axles + 880 pin.

[valhalla360]

ktmrfs wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

ktmrfs wrote:

carefull, it may have a 3500lb axle but still could have a lower axle weight rating driven by the tire capacity. Rating will be the lower of either the axle or tire capacity.

Doubt it as that would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

not as long as trailer sticker shows the correct allowed weight. If the axle is 3500lbs rating and the tires are 2800lbs and the sticker says 2800 it's legit and correct.

Look at most trucks and it's often the case that the rear axle rating is higher than the tire rating and the sticker allowed weight is lower than the axle is capable of.

If the sticker shows 2800lb as the GVWR....it's not the same as the OP's which shows 3700lb GVWR.

[Grit_dog]

This discussion is getting ad nauseum now.
Trailer is fine and pretty much anything bigger than a Pruis will pull it.
Have fun camping!!

[ktmrfs]

valhalla360 wrote:

ktmrfs wrote:

carefull, it may have a 3500lb axle but still could have a lower axle weight rating driven by the tire capacity. Rating will be the lower of either the axle or tire capacity.

Doubt it as that would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

not as long as trailer sticker shows the correct allowed weight. If the axle is 3500lbs rating and the tires are 2800lbs and the sticker says 2800 it's legit and correct.

Look at most trucks and it's often the case that the rear axle rating is higher than the tire rating and the sticker allowed weight is lower than the axle is capable of.

[kellem]

valhalla360 wrote:

kellem wrote:
The axle is likely a Dexter and will be labeled with the info.

Yes it's very common in the RV world to have the trailers GVWR to exceed the axles rating, surprisingly.

My last 2 trailers had (2) 3500lb axles yet both trailers exceeded 7000lbs in GVWR and in scale weight without issues.

Where does the GVWR sit with the hitch weight added in?

On an 8000lb GVWR trailer, you are likely looking at a 1000lb hitch weight, so add in a pair of 3500lb axles and you should be fine.

But in this case, the OP just mixed up the dry weight with the axle rating.

You are correct and good point.
Never would there be a case where the entire gross weight of trailer be sitting directly over the axles when tounge weight is absorbed.

[valhalla360]

kellem wrote:
The axle is likely a Dexter and will be labeled with the info.

Yes it's very common in the RV world to have the trailers GVWR to exceed the axles rating, surprisingly.

My last 2 trailers had (2) 3500lb axles yet both trailers exceeded 7000lbs in GVWR and in scale weight without issues.

Where does the GVWR sit with the hitch weight added in?

On an 8000lb GVWR trailer, you are likely looking at a 1000lb hitch weight, so add in a pair of 3500lb axles and you should be fine.

But in this case, the OP just mixed up the dry weight with the axle rating.

[valhalla360]

ktmrfs wrote:

carefull, it may have a 3500lb axle but still could have a lower axle weight rating driven by the tire capacity. Rating will be the lower of either the axle or tire capacity.

Doubt it as that would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[alaskadoug]

Thanks everyone for feedback, clarification and the best suggestion, call Lance.

[Grit_dog]

Lwiddis wrote:
Fooling with numbers to make a single axle trailer seem safe, adequate for your needs.

Add water, batteries, propane and your stuff you’ll be over max TT weight.

Negative ghostrider, but it's always nice to hear form the consummate pessimist!

[kellem]

The axle is likely a Dexter and will be labeled with the info.

Yes it's very common in the RV world to have the trailers GVWR to exceed the axles rating, surprisingly.

My last 2 trailers had (2) 3500lb axles yet both trailers exceeded 7000lbs in GVWR and in scale weight without issues.

[opnspaces]

ScottG wrote:
Simply, you're missing the weight that is on the tongue.

Tongue weight was my first thought as well. But that would be an 1,170 lb tongue weight on a 20 foot long single axle trailer. That's about a 30 percent tongue weight. To the OP. The numbers really don't add up. I would call Lance directly and ask them.
661.941.9250 Customer service, or 661.941.9255 presales questions.

Lance

[ktmrfs]

valhalla360 wrote:
You are mixing up different numbers. I checked Lances website:

Ratings:
GVWR = 3700
GAWR = Not Listed on their website but probably 3500lb as they won't make a custom axle for a travel trailer. You get the GVWR when you add the hitch weight.

Empty Weights as it comes from the dealer:
Unloaded Axle Weight = 2530
Unloaded Hitch Weight = 245
Unloaded Total Weight = 2775 (2530+245)
So you have 925lb of cargo capacity before hitting the GVWR

Of course this is all per the design calculations, so it might be off by a bit in real life.

carefull, it may have a 3500lb axle but still could have a lower axle weight rating driven by the tire capacity. Rating will be the lower of either the axle or tire capacity.

[ScottG]

Simply, you're missing the weight that is on the tongue.

[Lwiddis]

Fooling with numbers to make a single axle trailer seem safe, adequate for your needs.

Add water, batteries, propane and your stuff you’ll be over max TT weight.