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Diesel vs gas......................

blt2ski
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OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diesel, pro and con, I will either leave your thread, or copy and paste pertinant info to the 4 posts of pro and con of diesel or gas. This can include the GM 8.1 vs Dmax or Ford V-8/10 vs PSD etc too.

Be real and honest in you answers, not hear say, flaming etc PLEASE!

If posts are good ones, I will leave, if inflamatory or trolling in nature, they will be deleted! I will get this stick'd to the top for future parusing for those that need this type of info.

Added 6-23-04

We are getting closer to answers I am looking for etc.



Stuff like Ken's - T-Bone posts are good. There are a few others of you that have not posted, some with a 9 point question and answer type to figure out how you went with one or the other. If you are one of those, PLEASE repost in this thread. I may have to look up whom has done this and PM you, but if you think this is you, you now know what to do.

Also, for those of you with $ per gallon for either fuel right now, I would prefer to see a post with ...."in my area, diesel is typically .10 less than unleaded" then explain your numbers. As currently in the Seattle area, diesel and unleaded are any where from 2.05 -2.30 per gallon, with mid test .10 more and premium about .20 more, with equal high low splits. Two weeks ago those prices were upwards of .30 -.40 per gallon more. people were posting $ per gallon that were for me. "I wish" If someone is reading your post a year from now, they may want to know where your paying 1.65, when the price of fuel is over $3 per gallon. Let's keep prices out of it if possible.

Bert and tin tipi, got into a good discusion on the pros and cons of RPM's, drive train etc. I would prefer to NOT see the quote of the other in responding threads, maybe just write a quick wording of re tranny gearing, instead of the whole 40 words or so in that paragragh, so the repsonse is shorter if possible quicker and easier to read etc.

I have deleted some 15+/- posts, that were off topic etc. Please note, I am trying to keep this at the top, as the ONLY gas/diesel thread in this area. So if one is trying to decide, we do not have to go thru this BS any more. As such, I will be deleting ANY future posts close to resembling this type of topic. I may have to change "this" title to a better one, if one has a better sounding title, to be more positive, better claification, let me know here, or in a PM/e-mail, what ever you feel most comfortible with.

Again thank you for all of you that are keeping responses positive, etc.

Also we could use a few more positive reasons to go gas, as many can see I have both gas and diesel, both have a place! Both have positive reasons to buy that fuel, lets keep the threads etc to that purpose only!

Marty
92 Navistar dump truck, 7.3L 7 sp, 4.33 gears with a Detroit no spin
2014 Chevy 1500 Dual cab 4x4
92 Red-e-haul 12K equipment trailer
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RFOneWatt
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Explorer
Hannibal wrote:
Never had either of those scenarios happen. Those big trucks are usually keeping our speed down to the point I don't need any more power than I have with the 5.4L SD. Not a problem.


Sure, if you spend most of your time in the flatlands a diesel is certainly not a requirement by any means but my old truck could barely do the job and I like to have a bit of wiggle room..

Redlined out west in the mountains

It's also embarrassing listening to the truck drivers talk about how slow ya are.

Truck drivers not liking behind held up.

And one of the best things about diesels....

ENGINE BRAKING!

Going down (a mountain) is sometimes worse than going up!
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Hannibal
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Never had either of those scenarios happen. Those big trucks are usually keeping our speed down to the point I don't need any more power than I have with the 5.4L SD. Not a problem.
2020 F250 STX CC SB 7.3L 10spd 3.55 4x4
2010 F250 XLT CC SB 5.4L 5spdTS 3.73
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2017 Jayco 28RLS TT 32.5'

RFOneWatt
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Hannibal wrote:
Sweat on brow? From what? Pushing the skinny pedal? You really need to get back in shape!:B

Ah the roar of a gas V8 at 4200rpm! I don't even know where the repair shop is at our Ford dealership.


Haha -- No, from the five big trucks on yer butt while you've got that skinny pedal to the floor doing 20 MPH wondering when your truck's computer is going to start screaming at you to immediately pull over.

It happened to me several times on my last trip through the mountains of Utah and Wyoming.
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Hannibal
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Sweat on brow? From what? Pushing the skinny pedal? You really need to get back in shape!:B

Ah the roar of a gas V8 at 4200rpm! I don't even know where the repair shop is at our Ford dealership.
2020 F250 STX CC SB 7.3L 10spd 3.55 4x4
2010 F250 XLT CC SB 5.4L 5spdTS 3.73
ex '95 Cummins,'98 12v Cummins,'01.5 Cummins,'03 Cummins; '05 Hemi
2017 Jayco 28RLS TT 32.5'

RFOneWatt
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ejfranz wrote:
If you don't mind slowing down on the mountain passes then get the gas motor. I did that for many years.
I prefer my diesel because I know it has the power to get me out of almost any situation. I tend to stay at 60 mph but have also pushed it to 75mph through mountain passes when I had to get back from a long weekend. I don't know if I would buy a newer diesel with all the pollution crap.



WHAT HE SAID. X2

Mountains + DIESEL = Warm Fuzzies.

Mountains + GAS = Screaming engine and sweat on brow.
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ejfranz
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If you don't mind slowing down on the mountain passes then get the gas motor. I did that for many years.
I prefer my diesel because I know it has the power to get me out of almost any situation. I tend to stay at 60 mph but have also pushed it to 75mph through mountain passes when I had to get back from a long weekend. I don't know if I would buy a newer diesel with all the pollution crap.
06 Chevy Silverado 3500 Crewcab SRW 4WD - Allison 6 speed & Duramax LBZ.
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Slowmover
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partsman01 wrote:
I could not afford new, and could not afford any good shape older diesels, so I ended up getting a 1996 GMC K2500 extra cab, long box 4x4 with a Vortec 454/7.4 litre.
Got the dealer down to 5200CDN it had 219.000Km when I got it almost three years ago, and so far I have used it to pull a 1999 22 foot fifth wheel and now it has one trip pulling a 2004 24.5 foot Fifth wheel, so far it has been good, but still not sure how much I should push it on hills.
Always feel funny when I have it reving or going into passing gear on hills.


Run it up to redline with confidence. That number is good. That said, a new timing chain may be a good idea, especially for a tow vehicle.
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partsman01
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I could not afford new, and could not afford any good shape older diesels, so I ended up getting a 1996 GMC K2500 extra cab, long box 4x4 with a Vortec 454/7.4 litre.
Got the dealer down to 5200CDN it had 219.000Km when I got it almost three years ago, and so far I have used it to pull a 1999 22 foot fifth wheel and now it has one trip pulling a 2004 24.5 foot Fifth wheel, so far it has been good, but still not sure how much I should push it on hills.
Always feel funny when I have it reving or going into passing gear on hills.

Crazyfoe
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cefloyd 1961 wrote:
What Kind of engine mods would I need and what would be the cost?


Really unless your willing to put a significant amount of money into upgrades I wouldn't bother. Start w/ supercharging it best bang you can get for the money. That's what I'd do on my bb if I felt I needed more.

The 6L is a very capable engine and bulletproof, I would have settled for it but I wanted the ally trans and the BB.
04' Chevy Silverado 2500HD 496 cu in - Allison
'06 Keystone Cougar 304BH
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Jarlaxle
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Jarlaxle wrote:
100% dependent on the vehicle...worth noticeable power and mileage on some, no change on others.
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cefloyd_1961
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What Kind of engine mods would I need and what would be the cost?
2006 f350 superduty 6.0.. 2012 sandpiper 345RET loaded

RUFFSTUFF
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Jarlaxle wrote:
100% dependent on the vehicle...worth noticeable power and mileage on some, no change on others.


If all you do is install a CAI, I stand by my original statement. The ECU in a naturally aspirated vehicle will not take advantage of the increased airflow and in most cases, will adjust fueling to negate it.
2014 KZ Inferno 3712T
2015 Ford F350 DRW Platinum 6.7L
2010 Ford F250 Crew Cab 6.4L

Jarlaxle
Explorer II
Explorer II
100% dependent on the vehicle...worth noticeable power and mileage on some, no change on others.
John and Elizabeth (Liz), with Briza the size XL tabby
St. Bernard Marm, cats Vierna and Maya...RIP. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Current rig:
1992 International Genesis school bus conversion

RUFFSTUFF
Explorer
Explorer
cefloyd 1961 wrote:
Thinking about puting a K&N cold air induction kit on it has anyone tried this and does it work?


You won't notice much without other engine mods...
2014 KZ Inferno 3712T
2015 Ford F350 DRW Platinum 6.7L
2010 Ford F250 Crew Cab 6.4L

bkirkpatrick
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I surrender...