Ford suspension

[Bird_chaser]

I'm researching new tow vehicles (Chevy and Ford), I currently tow with a 2001 Silverado 3500 DRW, 6.0l with a 4l80e. My trailer has a pin weight of 2140 with a trailer weight of 10,460, this is loaded for a two week trip including 1/3 full water tank. I'm not concerned about towing, I'm concerned about the sag or squatting I hear about in the Fords. I'm concidering a Ford F-350 or a Chevy 3500 both DRW. I don't want to drop $50-60k and have to upgrade the suspension. I would like to hear from Ford guys about their experience. Thank you!

[FishOnOne]

ShinerBock wrote:

dodge guy wrote:


Just giving him an extra choice as he is not aware of how much better the Rams are!

This is very much on topic, as the OP wanted to know about adding air bags to the 2 brands he was interested in. A few of us were letting him know that Ram offeres air suspension from the factory. This is just some info for him to read. He is a big boy and can take all this info in if he desires or he can ignore it......which is what you should be doing!

No, you are not giving him an extra choice. You are giving him your OPINION which he has stated multiple times that he does not want it. Yes, he is a big boy and he told you NO RAMS......TWICE. Now you should be a big boy and accept that. Obviously you do not have your big boy pants on today because you can't accept that fact and move on.

Shiner,
Your cummins boys must lack reading comprehension.

[FishOnOne]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Bird chaser wrote:
Again, let me say that I appreciate all the replies and information! Been following along closely and have come to the following conclusion. Both Ford and Chevy will do the job with no issues or concerns about the suspension. Next I have to make sure that there is sufficient space for my 150 pound dog. I took out the rear seats of the current truck so he can travel comfortably. Thanks all!

UH With a MegaCab Dually the seats could have stayed in the back. Just sayin 😉

The Mega Cab looks hideous... The OP doesn't want a LAM. :R

[FishOnOne]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Me Again wrote:
Maybe someone is Fish"s twin brother? Chris

This guy is such an idiot and how he's plays on this forum!

Sorry but it had to be said!

I know him personally, he is not an idiot. Actually he is pretty smart!

The He77 you say! :B

[spud1957]

"Well for every two HD trucks that Ram sells Ford sells Three, wow that is a monster lead!"

All due respect Russ but here's my math.

2014 Sales

Total Ford HD trucks 263,830
Total Ram HD trucks 131,600

Same ratio for 1/2 tons.

[rhagfo]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

spud1957 wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Bird chaser wrote:
I'm researching new tow vehicles (Chevy and Ford), I currently tow with a 2001 Silverado 3500 DRW, 6.0l with a 4l80e. My trailer has a pin weight of 2140 with a trailer weight of 10,460, this is loaded for a two week trip including 1/3 full water tank. I'm not concerned about towing, I'm concerned about the sag or squatting I hear about in the Fords. I'm concidering a Ford F-350 or a Chevy 3500 both DRW. I don't want to drop $50-60k and have to upgrade the suspension. I would like to hear from Ford guys about their experience. Thank you!

Why not get a new 2015 Ram DRW with air suspension, problem solved!

X2! And you will have one of the best diesels offered in a pickup!

Maybe he doesn't want or like the Ram? Sorry Ram lovers but the vast majority of people buying new trucks don't buy Ram.

Only 22% (Mar #s) of the new full size truck sales (3 Domestic) were Rams. That's only 1 in 5 people.

Let's see the HD numbers and especially the Dually 350/3500's that really are TRUCKS!

Well for every two HD trucks that Ram sells Ford sells Three, wow that is a monster lead!

[Bionic_Man]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Bird chaser wrote:
Again, let me say that I appreciate all the replies and information! Been following along closely and have come to the following conclusion. Both Ford and Chevy will do the job with no issues or concerns about the suspension. Next I have to make sure that there is sufficient space for my 150 pound dog. I took out the rear seats of the current truck so he can travel comfortably. Thanks all!

UH With a MegaCab Dually the seats could have stayed in the back. Just sayin 😉

Beat me to it. 🙂

[spud1957]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"OK lets seem them. If you can find the dually numbers we would all appreciate it"

I would like to see them also. I do know RAM sells a LOT of Dually's.

I would also think too that the dually numbers would be different.

2013 Sales

3/4 ton

Ford 47%
GM Twins 31%
Ram 22%

1 Ton

Ford 54%
Ram 30%
GM Twins 16%

Here is the link.

[Cummins12V98]

"OK lets seem them. If you can find the dually numbers we would all appreciate it"

I would like to see them also. I do know RAM sells a LOT of Dually's.

[Cummins12V98]

FishOnOne wrote:

Me Again wrote:
Maybe someone is Fish"s twin brother? Chris

This guy is such an idiot and how he's plays on this forum!

Sorry but it had to be said!

I know him personally, he is not an idiot. Actually he is pretty smart!

[Cummins12V98]

Bird chaser wrote:
Again, let me say that I appreciate all the replies and information! Been following along closely and have come to the following conclusion. Both Ford and Chevy will do the job with no issues or concerns about the suspension. Next I have to make sure that there is sufficient space for my 150 pound dog. I took out the rear seats of the current truck so he can travel comfortably. Thanks all!

UH With a MegaCab Dually the seats could have stayed in the back. Just sayin 😉

[Cummins12V98]

rhagfo wrote:
My apoliges to the OP!
I started the Ram comment as it had just what he wanted an adjustable supession to get rid of sag. The 2015 Ram has air supession, he didn't state until later he wasn't interested in a Ram.

Why apologize? There others that are interested in opinions that just sit back and read. Thin skinned if ya can't go on to the next post and not get all stirred up!

[spud1957]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

spud1957 wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Bird chaser wrote:
I'm researching new tow vehicles (Chevy and Ford), I currently tow with a 2001 Silverado 3500 DRW, 6.0l with a 4l80e. My trailer has a pin weight of 2140 with a trailer weight of 10,460, this is loaded for a two week trip including 1/3 full water tank. I'm not concerned about towing, I'm concerned about the sag or squatting I hear about in the Fords. I'm concidering a Ford F-350 or a Chevy 3500 both DRW. I don't want to drop $50-60k and have to upgrade the suspension. I would like to hear from Ford guys about their experience. Thank you!

Why not get a new 2015 Ram DRW with air suspension, problem solved!

X2! And you will have one of the best diesels offered in a pickup!

Maybe he doesn't want or like the Ram? Sorry Ram lovers but the vast majority of people buying new trucks don't buy Ram.

Only 22% (Mar #s) of the new full size truck sales (3 Domestic) were Rams. That's only 1 in 5 people.

Let's see the HD numbers and especially the Dually 350/3500's that really are TRUCKS!

If you can find the dually numbers we would all appreciate it.

The HD numbers are pretty well the same. Only can find 2012.

[Cummins12V98]

ShinerBock wrote:
I am still trying to figure out why Rams or Dodges are even being mentioned in this thread. IIRC, the OP specifically said this was between a Ford or Chevy truck and he was NOT a fan of Rams or Dodges.

Because some need to be "SAVED".

[Cummins12V98]

Me Again wrote:

spud1957 wrote:


Only 22% (Mar #s) of the new full size truck sales (3 Domestic) were Rams. That's only 1 in 5 people.

Does that mean that 22% of the people are smarter than the average bear? Maybe that 22% is out of the top of the bell curve on knowledge.

"Have you driven a RAM lately?" Would be a good slogan!

Chris

When Chris drove this I had to pull him out by the feet and peel his fingers from the leather and wood steering wheel!

[Cummins12V98]

Bird chaser wrote:
Again thank you for the inputs! I will be checking out the F350 as well as the chevy 3500 in the near future. I have decided on the DRW due to the fact that my present truck is a DRW and I love the stability and extra element of safety that provides. In the last 10 years prior to retirement I worked for GM dealers as a heavy line and transmission tech, I therefore feel very comfortable with the GM product. I learned that Alison transmissions are indestructible, the Duramax is very expensive to repair. I have never been a Ram/Dodge fan, the Cummins is a great engine but I feel that the rest of the truck is cosmetic and they are not built to last like a Ford or Chevy truck.

I guess my 98 12V I sold to my Son that has 400k on it is the exception.