GMC Sierra EV Denali

[FishOnOne]

Here's the new GMC EV truck. Truck buyers are the most traditional buyers so it'll be interesting how this one sells with it's Avalanche DNA, and excluding all the EV BS.

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[FishOnOne]

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Pbutler97 wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:


Ford did have the sense to limit their design to only 4x2's. Will GM? I doubt it. This could be Chevy's new Vega engine.

Engineering, manufacturing, metallurgy etc have all advanced slightly in 60 years. You don't have a bunch of guys making calcs on a yellow tablet using slide rules and drawing things with pencils at drafting tables anymore.

Ya, maybe you're right. Here is some of that great engineering, manufacturing and metallurgy in practice today.

More of that 2022 great engineering and metallurgy.

Well maybe those pimple faced kids with slide rules knew more then you thought?

Plastics, rubbers, silicone base materials have made significant improvements as well. Well except those Dodge Ram dashboards.

[Pbutler97]

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Pbutler97 wrote:
That's idiotic. You want to compare the US auto industry to the US RV industry in the engineering,metallurgy, and manufacturing departments? ROFLMAO. Now you have to go back to about 1976 when a Serro Scotty trailer was built better than a babyshit green 76 Ford Maverick 4 door.

Ya, maybe you're right. But then again you're the one that alluded to the fact that better engineering and metallurgy makes a better product.
I would venture to guess that my dads 1969 Fireball TT is still on the road today? For sure, it never had a frame failure like all of these new cool super computer engineered Lipert frames of today.

Ok, fine, have it your way. Lets talk about recent automotive stuff. Oh wait, here's one!!! Well, not one but 10's of thousands in fact! "It's a Hemi!" Oh snap! That's not good!!! But then again it's only the 5% club. 5% is not too bad. Right?

Here is another great engineering win!!! Dang, that wasn't really auto related either, but people have to admit it was funny!! They were really lucky that the mower was not inside of the building when it decided to Jeffery Epstein itself. :B

I'm sure someone is going to say Dewalt does not have as good of engineers as GM or Ford, Tesla or, or, or, or.......

Maybe we should talk about the 6.4 diesel or even the 6.0 PS diesel. Now those were real engineering jewels of recent past!!! :B

I think we can both agree that engineering and metallurgy is way better than 50 years ago......but in many cases that does not equate into a better/safer product...especially after the bean counters get ahold of said product.

And I thought I had too much time on my hands LOL.

[Grit_dog]

^ Wow, man...You need another car to restore, or something...

[Turtle_n_Peeps]

Pbutler97 wrote:
That's idiotic. You want to compare the US auto industry to the US RV industry in the engineering,metallurgy, and manufacturing departments? ROFLMAO. Now you have to go back to about 1976 when a Serro Scotty trailer was built better than a babyshit green 76 Ford Maverick 4 door.

Ya, maybe you're right. But then again you're the one that alluded to the fact that better engineering and metallurgy makes a better product.
I would venture to guess that my dads 1969 Fireball TT is still on the road today? For sure, it never had a frame failure like all of these new cool super computer engineered Lipert frames of today.

Ok, fine, have it your way. Lets talk about recent automotive stuff. Oh wait, here's one!!! Well, not one but 10's of thousands in fact! "It's a Hemi!" Oh snap! That's not good!!! But then again it's only the 5% club. 5% is not too bad. Right?

Here is another great engineering win!!! Dang, that wasn't really auto related either, but people have to admit it was funny!! They were really lucky that the mower was not inside of the building when it decided to Jeffery Epstein itself. :B

I'm sure someone is going to say Dewalt does not have as good of engineers as GM or Ford, Tesla or, or, or, or.......

Maybe we should talk about the 6.4 diesel or even the 6.0 PS diesel. Now those were real engineering jewels of recent past!!! :B

I think we can both agree that engineering and metallurgy is way better than 50 years ago......but in many cases that does not equate into a better/safer product...especially after the bean counters get ahold of said product.

[Grit_dog]

" Now you have to go back to about 1976 when a Serro Scotty trailer was built better than a babyshit green 76 Ford Maverick 4 door."
Great 1 liner!

Peeps, I get where you're coming from, but I think you're trying just a bit too hard to prove some point.

[Pbutler97]

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Pbutler97 wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:


Ford did have the sense to limit their design to only 4x2's. Will GM? I doubt it. This could be Chevy's new Vega engine.

Engineering, manufacturing, metallurgy etc have all advanced slightly in 60 years. You don't have a bunch of guys making calcs on a yellow tablet using slide rules and drawing things with pencils at drafting tables anymore.

Ya, maybe you're right. Here is some of that great engineering, manufacturing and metallurgy in practice today.

More of that 2022 great engineering and metallurgy.

Well maybe those pimple faced kids with slide rules knew more then you thought?

That's idiotic. You want to compare the US auto industry to the US RV industry in the engineering,metallurgy, and manufacturing departments? ROFLMAO. Now you have to go back to about 1976 when a Serro Scotty trailer was built better than a babyshit green 76 Ford Maverick 4 door.

I have to agree with you though, or those videos. I think Lippert is the absolute worst thing that ever came along and everything they produce, market, distribute or are involved with is garbage.

Any experience with BIM? Amazing stuff. Now if the folks on the keyboard and the snot nosed, email/texting pimple faced 30 yr olds with phones jammed in their faces they never use to make an actual phonecall only knew how to apply it in the field and real world. I digress lol.

[Turtle_n_Peeps]

Pbutler97 wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:


Ford did have the sense to limit their design to only 4x2's. Will GM? I doubt it. This could be Chevy's new Vega engine.

Engineering, manufacturing, metallurgy etc have all advanced slightly in 60 years. You don't have a bunch of guys making calcs on a yellow tablet using slide rules and drawing things with pencils at drafting tables anymore.

Ya, maybe you're right. Here is some of that great engineering, manufacturing and metallurgy in practice today.

More of that 2022 great engineering and metallurgy.

Well maybe those pimple faced kids with slide rules knew more then you thought?

[Pbutler97]

Turtle n Peeps wrote:


Ford did have the sense to limit their design to only 4x2's. Will GM? I doubt it. This could be Chevy's new Vega engine.

Engineering, manufacturing, metallurgy etc have all advanced slightly in 60 years. You don't have a bunch of guys making calcs on a yellow tablet using slide rules and drawing things with pencils at drafting tables anymore.

[Turtle_n_Peeps]

Durb wrote:
There isn't a bed to cab gap which would definitely preclude any other bed options. Is this a body on frame truck or a unibody like a Ridgeline or a minivan?

It's both. It does not have a traditional ladder frame nor is it a total unibody.

They use the battery pack as a stress member/frame. This type of design lends itself well to light duty.

IMHO this is a fools errand design and even dangerous. But then again I thought putting an electric pump inside of a fuel tank was a fools errand design and even dangerous.

But yet again Ford tried this design in 1962 and it made customers about as happy as ones that bought a Ford 6.4 diesel almost 50 years later.

Ford did have the sense to limit their design to only 4x2's. Will GM? I doubt it. This could be Chevy's new Vega engine.

[RetiredRealtorR]

shelbyfv wrote:
Here's one that will really peg your envy meter Goober Hate

It's the Rambler Marlin reborn!!

[FishOnOne]

Durb wrote:
There isn't a bed to cab gap which would definitely preclude any other bed options. Is this a body on frame truck or a unibody like a Ridgeline or a minivan?

Its a body on frame.

[mkirsch]

propchef wrote:
Do we need two threads on this? Oh, joy.

The other thread got closed by the moderators because people couldn't keep it civil, so obviously the correct course of action is to open another thread on the same subject and pick up where you left off.

[Durb]

There isn't a bed to cab gap which would definitely preclude any other bed options. Is this a body on frame truck or a unibody like a Ridgeline or a minivan?

[shelbyfv]

Here's one that will really peg your envy meter Goober Hate