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work2much
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I know this has been discussed more than once but search wasn't turning up results.

We have a Ram 3500 with a 2-1/2 inch receiver. Our TC extends approximately 36" past the trucks receiver box. We will be flat towing a Jeep Wrangler that should weight 4500 pounds or so.

I know many folks use a Torklift Supertruss. I was hoping to use the factory receiver with something like this and cut to length.


https://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Adapters/Reese/RP45018.html

I would add diagonal chain back to the truck frame similar to what the super truss has. Suggestions?

I am also looking for advice on the towing apparatus. So far Blue Ox seems to be common and well liked. I am also considering their patriot brake. Open to suggestions. Thanks!

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Ox-BRK2016-Brake-System/dp/B01LYA4FEV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541281724&...
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loveTheBeach
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This product seems extremely dangerous to me. I have towed travel trailers for over 30 years and have learned that keeping the ball as close to the tow vehicle is very important for stability. The physics of all this is: the further you put the load behind the rear axle, the more unstable the tow vehicle becomes. 41 or 48" seems awful far to me. The trailer has all that leverage on the tow vehicle. Moving the center of gravity back too far in the tow vehicle is how you lose control and roll them over.

work2much
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mkirsch wrote:
Hardware store turnbuckles tend to be rated for only a few hundred pounds, so if you find one stretched or busted, you know why. As they are not your primary means of attachment, I say worry about it if/when it happens.


I got these on Amazon. The manufacturer rates them at 2200 pounds working load limit each. That's less than I would want if they were the primary restraints but I think they will be ok for what I am using them for. I did replace the bolts with some stainless bolts and nylock nuts. Honestly the bar is so robust I don't see these braces taking on much load.
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mkirsch
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Hardware store turnbuckles tend to be rated for only a few hundred pounds, so if you find one stretched or busted, you know why. As they are not your primary means of attachment, I say worry about it if/when it happens.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

work2much
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GpnAZ wrote:
That's the one thing I don't like about flat towing is losing the ability to back up. I've had it happen several times and it was always the most inconvenient place. I only tow our Jeep when we are going Jeeping some place or going to a destination that we're staying for awhile. I prefer not to tow the Jeep! I also tie my turnbuckle at the more rearward position like Bedlam suggested. It seems real solid at that position, I have the SuperTruss hitch with the double stinger. It looks like you have a real nice and thought out setup, Jeeps make a fun and practical tow vehicle!


Getting a toad was a slow decision for us. We are on the road most months and the Jeep in tow is what we came up with. Of course there is a downside always in RV travel when you bring more. We are looking forward to staying longer at places while having the jeep to run around. Time will tell /:
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GpnAZ
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That's the one thing I don't like about flat towing is losing the ability to back up. I've had it happen several times and it was always the most inconvenient place. I only tow our Jeep when we are going Jeeping some place or going to a destination that we're staying for awhile. I prefer not to tow the Jeep! I also tie my turnbuckle at the more rearward position like Bedlam suggested. It seems real solid at that position, I have the SuperTruss hitch with the double stinger. It looks like you have a real nice and thought out setup, Jeeps make a fun and practical tow vehicle!
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Ski_Pro_3
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Yea, you can't back up with a towed car attached. Well, you can, but it will jack up very fast. Test first!

work2much
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Ski Pro 3 wrote:


Here's a link to READY BRAKE's turnbuckle for cable adjustment as well. (I couldn't capture it as a photo and post) It also shows the cable pivot loop idea as well;
TURNBUCKLE brake cable adjustment


Thanks for all your comments. I did pick up a turnbuckle at the hardware store a few days ago. We took the truck and Jeep out this morning. There was no issue with any clearances or cable lengths. At max turning with the truck the tow bar has more room to move. The setback from the camper measures out with plenty of distance but we will load the camper and double check everything before we set out in a few weeks for our next trip.

We haven't tried backing up, but I assume the mechanics of the free moving steering wheel would make this tenuous at best as the front wheels would curb themselves right away? This will mean a little different thought process as we travel.
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work2much
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I think the turnbuckles should be farther back from the receiver at the second set of loops to be effective.

I have gone back and forth on this. Moving them is easy. Now they are at 45 degrees and make a pretty effective wobble stop. The other holes the angle is pretty shallow. I may move them later. Since the bar is designed without them for the rating I'm not sure it's going to make a big difference.
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work2much
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FireGuard wrote:
Great set up.
How does the new sway bar work with the factory air suspension?


Not sure yet, we haven't had the camper on since it was installed. It's pretty beefy so I suspect it will be a big improvement.
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Bedlam
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work2much wrote:
Here is the finished hitch (minus some locking nuts for the turnbuckles) Looking into the hitch extension the loops on top of the bar are not intended for attachment points for safety chain (according to etrailer) They look stout but I decided to add safety chain in addition to the diagonal stabilizers. The bars rating by itself exceeds the weight of the Jeep so I'm sure the diagonals are not needed but I like the added stability.


I think the turnbuckles should be farther back from the receiver at the second set of loops to be effective.

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FireGuard
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Great set up.
How does the new sway bar work with the factory air suspension?
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Ski_Pro_3
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You did REAL good work2much! You took the time to evaluate all the options and didn't cut corners. I went the diode method for my lighting, found a kit on e-trailer that I could understand the instructions to. Your method sounds like you found a solution you could understand as well and that is always good.
I have a Super Hitch and therefore a lower receiver hole to route my extension. If you had one, you might not have needed the drop.

Excellent results!

Here's some suggestions when you test the tow;
Find a wide open area and have a buddy ride in the bed of your truck. Have him observe the whole assembly as you maneuver turns and braking. I had to make slight adjustments to my turnbuckles and tension on my brake cable. In fact, I added a small turnbuckle on my brake cable for fine tuning. It's not feasible to adjust the length of this cable because it will stretch as it gets used. Test it going over curbs and troughs where the angle between the truck and the towed will be at it's most. Try braking during this and see how your towed brake pedal reacts. Try turns and braking as well.

I want to mention about cable routing. Your READY BRAKE towbar has the loop already but others who read this may not be aware of what they are looking at and what it does.
I welded a loop at the ball mount end of my tow bar. This is to route the brakeway cable, the brake cable and the light wiring cable. By routing all these cables as close to the pivot point as you possibly can, the cable lengths won't be too long or too short as you make left/right hard turns. I found that before I did that, on turns those cables would sag, then when I pulled straight again, they would hang up on various parts of the tow bar. READY BRAKE now sells this as an option with their main product. It should be standard as a safety feature! They stole my idea!!

Here's a photo from their website showing the cable pivot right above the tow bar pivot point.



Here's a link to READY BRAKE's turnbuckle for cable adjustment as well. (I couldn't capture it as a photo and post) It also shows the cable pivot loop idea as well;
TURNBUCKLE brake cable adjustment

mike_kellie
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Looks great. The 4" drop becomes a handy anchor for a small pram when you go big on the jeep tires. I also have a drop and the boy scout in me made sure I followed all the literature and yet it only took one trip flat towing that finds you are looking at every dingy and toad out there, seeing more tow bars pointed to 2:00 and even 1:30 than 3:00. Leaves you muttering....how much was that drop extension again?
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work2much
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Here is the finished hitch (minus some locking nuts for the turnbuckles) Looking into the hitch extension the loops on top of the bar are not intended for attachment points for safety chain (according to etrailer) They look stout but I decided to add safety chain in addition to the diagonal stabilizers. The bars rating by itself exceeds the weight of the Jeep so I'm sure the diagonals are not needed but I like the added stability.




In this shot you can also see the sway bar installed yesterday. These are a new product from Hellwig for Rams with the factory air bags. It was a little more involved than bars I have installed in the past. Pro Tip: remove spare first. That was my wife suggestion and a big doh moment for me. :h



I did need to cut the bar down and add a 4" drop for the alignment to the tow bar. I left the bar long enough to remove the drop hitch at a later date when the Jeep get a small lift and larger tires. Cutting down the bar it became obvious why it so dang heavy.



The baseplate has also been installed on the Jeep. We used the Blue Ox Brand. Install was easier than I expected but you do need to unbolt and remove the bumper and 2 holes needed to be drilled into the frame. The surge brake cable and emergency break away cable were also installed and run up into the brake pedal in the jeep.



For turn signals I installed the Blue Ox bulb and socket kit. This is a simple install, a hole is drilled into the back of the light housing and a bulb added that is signaled from the tow vehicle. There are other ways to go using diode kits and magnetic lights attached to the outside of the jeep but I liked the simplicity of this and the fact it is 100% isolated from the Jeeps wiring.



Here is the Ready Brute tow bar installed on the hitch



We are almost ready to get this out on the road. :E
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bigfootford
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I have the same setup as Skipro3.

I do not have a monitor for the toad brake lights coming on though. I do have the dash led.. Nice!

I have towed my Samurai, 2,000lbs almost 10,000 miles now over some VERY steep roads like the road to California's Shelter Cove... Love the Ready Brake.

Jim
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