March sales are in

[45Ricochet]

[lbrjet]

She didn't plead the fifth but didn't answer many questions either. GM is doing their own internal investigation and when that is done Barra will share more information. She has worked at GM for decades so this is not rocket science for her. Typically the I know nothing as CEO responses. I don't know and we will find out were the answers to most questions.

[larry_barnhart]

goducks10 wrote:

45Ricochet wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Here's a good summary of the total trucks sold in '13

Link.

I wouldn't schedule the parade just yet! :W

I myself just look at the 35 series segment since a 15 or 25 is not really a option for me as of yet.
Yes someone else beat you to that thread today. But it was interesting at the low number of 3500 GM make.
Usually a 3500 dually is a diesel.... wonder how many DMAX engines they actually make?
Having said all this I'm just waiting for the bow tie group to say something like " my 2500 is the same as a Ford 350/ Ram 3500" :B
That HD label, maybe a HD key chain?
Man I felt bad for Barra today, it was something like a witch hunt and she wasn't even close to being in charge at that time.

That's what she gets paid the big $$$$ for.

We have been on the road and have not watched the new CEO being asked questions. So has she pleaded the fifth as we have seen from many of the DC crooks?

chevman

[CKNSLS]

surveyorjp wrote:

ib516 wrote:
Ram will be #2 soon - just as predicted. That's Nutz...:W

Lol

Again-as a Silverado owner there is nothing groundbreaking about the new GM trucks-especially as far as half-tons are concerned.

The RAM is a far improved superior truck AT PRESENT.

However, if GM lays $12,000.00 on the hood of the new half-tons they might be able to get some GM owners to upgrade. They are not going to get any "conquest sales" -unlike RAM right now.

[surveyorjp]

ib516 wrote:
Ram will be #2 soon - just as predicted. That's Nutz...:W

Lol

[catfishmontana]

Fordlover wrote:

catfishmontana wrote:
I too am in the oil industry. Living on site on a drilling location 24 hours a day, I see hot shotters come and go. I can count on one hand the number of GM hot shot trucks I have seen over the last few months. I would say Ram is 75%, Ford 22%, and GM 3% of the heavy haulers. As far as service trucks, I would flip the ford and ram figures. Then the half ton trucks drove by sales persons, engineers, and folks getting tickets signed seem to have Chevy holding the majority of the half tons I see. Rarely do I see a half ton Ram on location other than the roughnecks personal vehicles. This being in the Bakken, and of course staying on the same rig all the time, a large chunk of the traffic is repeat business.

Agree completely. I work for one of the largest oilfield services & supply companies, and if it's not a class 8 type rig moving equipment, it's typically a Ram haulling the hot shot goosnecks. Sometimes a Ford, and basically never a GM.

In my experience the hot shot guys don't really 'haul heavy.' BOP's, large assemblies, etc. go on the big trucks, the hot shot guys are usually moving loads of <10K lbs. Being on site your experience might be different.

I see a few 10,000 plus loads. Not many, but some. Usually those loads are my directional tools. Mud motors, monels, subs, and MWD kit boxes. But you are right, I should not have probably said heavy haul.

[Fordlover]

catfishmontana wrote:
I too am in the oil industry. Living on site on a drilling location 24 hours a day, I see hot shotters come and go. I can count on one hand the number of GM hot shot trucks I have seen over the last few months. I would say Ram is 75%, Ford 22%, and GM 3% of the heavy haulers. As far as service trucks, I would flip the ford and ram figures. Then the half ton trucks drove by sales persons, engineers, and folks getting tickets signed seem to have Chevy holding the majority of the half tons I see. Rarely do I see a half ton Ram on location other than the roughnecks personal vehicles. This being in the Bakken, and of course staying on the same rig all the time, a large chunk of the traffic is repeat business.

Agree completely. I work for one of the largest oilfield services & supply companies, and if it's not a class 8 type rig moving equipment, it's typically a Ram haulling the hot shot goosnecks. Sometimes a Ford, and basically never a GM.

In my experience the hot shot guys don't really 'haul heavy.' BOP's, large assemblies, etc. go on the big trucks, the hot shot guys are usually moving loads of <10K lbs. Being on site your experience might be different.

[Dadoffourgirls]

Interesting points:
Businessweek

[FishOnOne]

catfishmontana wrote:
I too am in the oil industry. Living on site on a drilling location 24 hours a day, I see hot shotters come and go. I can count on one hand the number of GM hot shot trucks I have seen over the last few months. I would say Ram is 75%, Ford 22%, and GM 3% of the heavy haulers. As far as service trucks, I would flip the ford and ram figures. Then the half ton trucks drove by sales persons, engineers, and folks getting tickets signed seem to have Chevy holding the majority of the half tons I see. Rarely do I see a half ton Ram on location other than the roughnecks personal vehicles. This being in the Bakken, and of course staying on the same rig all the time, a large chunk of the traffic is repeat business.

CatfishMontana,
I believe our assessment on the HD's are very close.

[catfishmontana]

I too am in the oil industry. Living on site on a drilling location 24 hours a day, I see hot shotters come and go. I can count on one hand the number of GM hot shot trucks I have seen over the last few months. I would say Ram is 75%, Ford 22%, and GM 3% of the heavy haulers. As far as service trucks, I would flip the ford and ram figures. Then the half ton trucks drove by sales persons, engineers, and folks getting tickets signed seem to have Chevy holding the majority of the half tons I see. Rarely do I see a half ton Ram on location other than the roughnecks personal vehicles. This being in the Bakken, and of course staying on the same rig all the time, a large chunk of the traffic is repeat business.

[FishOnOne]

45Ricochet wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Here's a good summary of the total trucks sold in '13

Link.

I wouldn't schedule the parade just yet! :W

I myself just look at the 35 series segment since a 15 or 25 is not really a option for me as of yet.
Yes someone else beat you to that thread today. But it was interesting at the low number of 3500 GM make.
Usually a 3500 dually is a diesel.... wonder how many DMAX engines they actually make?
Having said all this I'm just waiting for the bow tie group to say something like " my 2500 is the same as a Ford 350/ Ram 3500" :B
That HD label, maybe a HD key chain?
Man I felt bad for Barra today, it was something like a witch hunt and she wasn't even close to being in charge at that time.

GM's 3500 truck sales for '13 support what I've been reporting on what I see on the road and at work (i.e. Hot shotters and oil field equipment trucks topic). I just don't see a lot of GM 3500 trucks anymore and that includes the "Gold Standard Configuration". :W


BTW...Barra is well groomed to handle the politics, but GM ultimately will get a black eye from this big nasty ignition switch cover up.

GM corporate continues to self destruct. :S

[goducks10]

45Ricochet wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Here's a good summary of the total trucks sold in '13

Link.

I wouldn't schedule the parade just yet! :W

I myself just look at the 35 series segment since a 15 or 25 is not really a option for me as of yet.
Yes someone else beat you to that thread today. But it was interesting at the low number of 3500 GM make.
Usually a 3500 dually is a diesel.... wonder how many DMAX engines they actually make?
Having said all this I'm just waiting for the bow tie group to say something like " my 2500 is the same as a Ford 350/ Ram 3500" :B
That HD label, maybe a HD key chain?
Man I felt bad for Barra today, it was something like a witch hunt and she wasn't even close to being in charge at that time.

That's what she gets paid the big $$$$ for.

[45Ricochet]

FishOnOne wrote:
Here's a good summary of the total trucks sold in '13

Link.

I wouldn't schedule the parade just yet! :W

I myself just look at the 35 series segment since a 15 or 25 is not really a option for me as of yet.
Yes someone else beat you to that thread today. But it was interesting at the low number of 3500 GM make.
Usually a 3500 dually is a diesel.... wonder how many DMAX engines they actually make?
Having said all this I'm just waiting for the bow tie group to say something like " my 2500 is the same as a Ford 350/ Ram 3500" :B
That HD label, maybe a HD key chain?
Man I felt bad for Barra today, it was something like a witch hunt and she wasn't even close to being in charge at that time.

[MARK_VANDERBENT]

Good month for ram indeed !! does not mean GM trucks aren't good enough. End of year sales will say that. GMs heavy dutys are just barely out, so those numbers aren't as high now as usual due to many waiting to buy once lots have some inventory. Will like to see the numbers after a few months into GMs HD trucks being out.

[larry_barnhart]

If we were buying a new it would be another GM. Problem is our truck might last longer than we will need it so another lost GM sale. Good for us bad for jobs.

chevman

[FishOnOne]

Here's a good summary of the total trucks sold in '13

Link.

I wouldn't schedule the parade just yet! :W