New F-150 Electric P/U

[Redcatcher70]

OK, saw the ad on television for the Electric F-150, not really impressed. 300 mile average distance traveled on a charge, then charge overnight and ready for another 300 miles. I live in Central Arkansas, my son lives in Rockwall, Texas, I calculated my mileage and come up with total distance of 327 miles. Not counting off and ons for potty breaks and he lives a few miles off I-30, I rounded it up to 350 miles.
Now if I drove the elec. truck, I would have to find a place between Greenville and Rowlett to charge and spend the night. Why would I want one of these trucks?

[Reisender]

Redcatcher70 wrote:
Well, I didn't fill in all the info. We don't own any type of unit currently, maybe in the future. My daily driver is a F250 Super Duty, CC, V-10, 2WD. I am planning on downsizing in the near future. DW daily is a Buick Encore. We like to make trips in the truck, car is a little small. We make the Texas trip every two or three months, to see the grands. First question, when are all these charging stations going to be installed, who is paying for the stations, how much will a charge cost. We all know the power grids in Texas are about maxed out, how much is a home charger installed cost? I don't see a electric truck in my future.... Son does not have a charger at his home either, you think he might install one for me.

Howdy. I can only help with the last two questions re chargers at your home or your sons.

All EV’s come with built in level 2 chargers as well as the EVSE that connects to the homes power source. The expense comes in adding the stove plug (14-50 receptacle same as found in RV parks) in your sons or your garage. In our case it was 350 bucks. But every house is different. Depends a lot where your panel is. This typically allows for a full charge overnight.

Hope that helps.

[rlw999]

jdc1 wrote:


500,000 divided by 10 chargers at each station....50,000 charging stations.

That's in addition to the ~50,000 existing chargers. Plus everyone in a house has a charger at home in the form of an electrical outlet (even if it's not a fast charger, overnight slow charging will handle the average commute), while few of us have home gasoline refueling stations so we still have to go to a gas station once a week or so.

[Redcatcher70]

Well, I didn't fill in all the info. We don't own any type of unit currently, maybe in the future. My daily driver is a F250 Super Duty, CC, V-10, 2WD. I am planning on downsizing in the near future. DW daily is a Buick Encore. We like to make trips in the truck, car is a little small. We make the Texas trip every two or three months, to see the grands. First question, when are all these charging stations going to be installed, who is paying for the stations, how much will a charge cost. We all know the power grids in Texas are about maxed out, how much is a home charger installed cost? I don't see a electric truck in my future.... Son does not have a charger at his home either, you think he might install one for me.

[thomas201]

I am recently back from a 2 week trip to Alaska that included traveling the Dalton to the Beaufort Sea (Arctic Ocean), so no power between the Northern Moosed Campground and Deadhorse, unless it was a generator at Yukon Crossing or Coldfoot. 400 + miles one way, so EV's are not ready for prime time yet. We still need to run the Dempster and the trans Labrador. We are a camping forum, so it is reasonable that the "normal" here would be different.

Now go to the name of the forum, "Tow Vehicles". So how far will it tow a 10K travel trailer, or 5er. With the A/C on, or the heater. In a six hour day? An 8 hour day? or A 10 hour day. How about a 15K 5er? These are important questions on a towing forum, not so much on a "commuter car" forum. Until we can get some answers to these questions, they are just interesting, not must haves.

[fj12ryder]

jdc1 wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

colliehauler wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Well, generally speaking you're probably in the minority. Most people probably drive much less than 300 miles in a day on average. But, in reality, electric vehicles are still mostly a niche market, with commuter and urban vehicles mostly making up the numbers.

Just got back from a one day 851 miles drive. The week before 632 miles in a day. So not convenient for some to go electric. When I get fuel I grab a sandwich & drink and use the restroom and back on the road in less then 10 minutes.

We spent the winter going from Michigan to Utah to S. Cal to South Texas to Florida to Michigan.

We had all of one day in excess of 250 miles.

Neither you nor I are typical.

Yep. That's how normal people travel. Rushing to get somewhere 1,000 miles away is senseless. 250 miles is plenty. Even if you drove 500 miles a day, you only need 2-20 minute fast charges.

Sorry, but I don't think you get to decide what is "normal".

Many people simply don't agree with your estimation that 250 miles is plenty. I didn't until I got old, when I was younger my days of traveling with the trailer in tow were on the order of 500-600 miles until I got to my destination. Even my motorcycle traveling days were 350-400 miles/day. 3 weeks and 6500 miles were "normal" for me. "Normal"? It was for me at the time, and quite a few other people that I knew also traveled pretty much the same way.

[jdc1]

valhalla360 wrote:

colliehauler wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Well, generally speaking you're probably in the minority. Most people probably drive much less than 300 miles in a day on average. But, in reality, electric vehicles are still mostly a niche market, with commuter and urban vehicles mostly making up the numbers.

Just got back from a one day 851 miles drive. The week before 632 miles in a day. So not convenient for some to go electric. When I get fuel I grab a sandwich & drink and use the restroom and back on the road in less then 10 minutes.

We spent the winter going from Michigan to Utah to S. Cal to South Texas to Florida to Michigan.

We had all of one day in excess of 250 miles.

Neither you nor I are typical.

Yep. That's how normal people travel. Rushing to get somewhere 1,000 miles away is senseless. 250 miles is plenty. Even if you drove 500 miles a day, you only need 2-20 minute fast charges.

[jdc1]

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

bgum wrote:
Charge during lunch and bathroom stops and you can make it in one day.

Provided there is a charging station along the route, and at the proper distance.

The administration's infrastructure bill plans to build 500,000 of them. Bet it will be in every corner considering there are just 168,000 gas stations in the country..

And charging overnight is needed if you are starting from zero charge.

If you are pulling an RV, most conservative is about 150 miles. That's about the same mileage with my gasser for bathroom,stretch and lunch breaks.

500,000 divided by 10 chargers at each station....50,000 charging stations.

[valhalla360]

colliehauler wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
Well, generally speaking you're probably in the minority. Most people probably drive much less than 300 miles in a day on average. But, in reality, electric vehicles are still mostly a niche market, with commuter and urban vehicles mostly making up the numbers.

Just got back from a one day 851 miles drive. The week before 632 miles in a day. So not convenient for some to go electric. When I get fuel I grab a sandwich & drink and use the restroom and back on the road in less then 10 minutes.

We spent the winter going from Michigan to Utah to S. Cal to South Texas to Florida to Michigan.

We had all of one day in excess of 250 miles.

Neither you nor I are typical.

[valhalla360]

2112 wrote:
Curious
What if I carried my 200lb, 7200W, 240V/30A generator in the truck bed. Taking that same 350 mile trip, and say a realistic distance is 250 miles per charge. Let's say I travel 200 miles and stop at an out of the way location to take a lunch break. Out of the way meaning generator noise doesn't offend anyone. How long will I need to recharge at 7200W before I can reliably make the last 150 miles?

Ford hasn't officially listed the battery size but based on charging estimates from Ford, it's around 150kwh of usable battery bank.

That's about 2 miles per kwh to get 300 mile range. A 7.2kw generator running for an hour might add 14miles (might be a little less depending on efficiency). This presumes the generator is rated for 7.2kw continuous output and the onboard charger won't be limited to some lower charging rate.

So if you crank up the generator and plug it in just before pulling out of the driveway...assuming you are running at 65mph, 350miles will take 5.4 hours. Assuming the generator is in the back running the whole time at max output, that will give you the 300mile battery range plus an extra 75miles from the generator for a total of 375mile range...ie: you have 25 miles left when you arrive.

There are probably some errors due to efficiency losses, so figure you will be limping in on the proverbial fumes. Keep in mind 7.2kw is roughly 10hp. A full size pickup at freeway speeds is likely drawing 60-80hp to keep up the speed.

[colliehauler]

fj12ryder wrote:
Well, generally speaking you're probably in the minority. Most people probably drive much less than 300 miles in a day on average. But, in reality, electric vehicles are still mostly a niche market, with commuter and urban vehicles mostly making up the numbers.

Just got back from a one day 851 miles drive. The week before 632 miles in a day. So not convenient for some to go electric. When I get fuel I grab a sandwich & drink and use the restroom and back on the road in less then 10 minutes.

[gbopp]

It's actually pretty simple. Tell your son he needs to move closer to you. :C

[Reisender]

dedmiston wrote:

Reisender wrote:
With that generator...

I thought you left us. What happened?

Googled a water heater problem for a neighbour and up came RV.net. Figured I would look around and saw this thread. Logged in and decided to throw in my two cents. I’m always interested in EV stuff and it’s affects on RVing. We are still RV less. Probably till February or March. I’ll probably pop in from time to time although with no RV feels kinda weird. Still a good resource. Did you miss your resident pain in the a$$? 🙂

[dedmiston]

Reisender wrote:
With that generator...

I thought you left us. What happened?

[Reisender]

2112 wrote:
Curious
What if I carried my 200lb, 7200W, 240V/30A generator in the truck bed. Taking that same 350 mile trip, and say a realistic distance is 250 miles per charge. Let's say I travel 200 miles and stop at an out of the way location to take a lunch break. Out of the way meaning generator noise doesn't offend anyone. How long will I need to recharge at 7200W before I can reliably make the last 150 miles?

With that generator you would probably take about 8 hours to get an extra 150 miles. Easier and MUCH CHEAPER to just pull into a CCS DC fast charger and charge for 15 or 20 minutes. Probably cost you 8 or 10 bucks. Not sure where you live so don’t know your infrastructure situation. But around here if you travel 300 miles (500 kilometres or so) you’ll probably have passed 50 CCS DC fast chargers. Easy to find.

[Lwiddis]

Level 3 recharging time is 40 to 50 minutes. Level 2 is 10 to 14 hours.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2022/f-150-lightning/pdf/F-150_Lightning_Tech_Specs.pdf