New Maxxis tires are 2 years old???

[pickjare]

Hello, I enjoy reading topics on this forum and have learned a lot from you guys. This is my first post. With all the controversy of ST tires vs. LT tires, I decided to buy what many think are the best ST tires available since LT aren't an option in my size. I ordered 4 ST205/75R15 Maxxis M8008 tires from Summit Racing (a reputable company that was first to come up with google search) and got them today. I want to have the best experience with them. Checking them over, I found the last 4 digits of DOT # is "1314." They seem to be in brand new condition--must have been sitting around. So it appears they were made over 2 years ago, I'll call them tomorrow, but should I be concerned about this?

[Tequila]

I belive in my Province it is illegal to use LT tires on tandem axles.

[jfkmk]

Huntindog wrote:

coolbreeze01 wrote:
Of course, the main reason tires come apart, is due to running them flat.

Happens to LT's as well as ST's no matter their country of origin.

There have been reports here, with pics of STs exploding while parked! At least one was the spare.

Surprisingly, not too uncommon for ANY tire. I search in this forum and found nothing (not saying there isn't anything, my search could have been flawed). I searched OUTSIDE this forum for "st tire exploding while parked" and was returned all kinds of hits including Porsche, trucks, vans, etc. I sincerely doubt they were running ST tires on these vehicles. Care to try again?

[coolbreeze01]

Huntindog wrote:

coolbreeze01 wrote:
Of course, the main reason tires come apart, is due to running them flat.

Happens to LT's as well as ST's no matter their country of origin.

There have been reports here, with pics of STs exploding while parked! At least one was the spare.

As I said, the main reason tires "explode" is run flats. I have seen pics of spare tires delaminating on the bumper. Clearly they were junk.

[jake2250]

My 4+ year old Maxxis were starting to come apart and I noticed it in November, I finally got new Maxxis with in six months age, After contacting Maxxis, One tire was almost 5 years old, and the other three were within five months of 5 years old,, Warranty would do nothing for me.. I got a copy of "How to store your Maxxis tires" (looks to be copied off of their web site). Also, the stand alone local tire store I used did not even contact Maxxis and maxxis had no information on when and where I purchased them from,, So with out the middle man,, Nothing Maxxis could do..
I now,Cover my tires, and park them on 2x6 redwood to keep them off of the gravel and out of the moisture!! I cannot limit them from Ozone producing elements but hope the covers will help!!
I am just glad I caught the tread separation before heading down the road!!
In a search of reliable ST tires my research has pointed to MAXXIS as the most reliable ST tire out there..
Hopefully within the next four years a tire manufacture will come up with the next end all be all st tire.. Fingers crossed for safe travels!

[Huntindog]

coolbreeze01 wrote:
Of course, the main reason tires come apart, is due to running them flat.

Happens to LT's as well as ST's no matter their country of origin.

There have been reports here, with pics of STs exploding while parked! At least one was the spare.

[coolbreeze01]

Of course, the main reason tires come apart, is due to running them flat.

Happens to LT's as well as ST's no matter their country of origin.

[Huntindog]

4X4Dodger wrote:

spadoctor wrote:
Per Goodyear and others....as soon as a tire is made it starts to age and the life of a tire is 6 years. Call them up and have them exchanged for current stock

If you google tire aging you will find that the manufacturers themselves, those invested in selling tires, say that tires are perfectly good up to SEVEN to TEN years before needing to be replaced for age alone.

Every product ages before it is sold as NEW and the warranty starts. This is just the common practice and the realities of the manufacturing and distribution systems.

If the warranty starts on the date of Purchase, as it clearly does, that is when the tire is truly "new".

So much of the misinformation offered here as fact causes needless concern.

Some people here have reported that Maxxis warranty is from the manufature date...
But it really doesn't matter what the warranty is.

A tire coming apart on a TT slinging those steel belts around at highway speed acts like a chainsaw.
The amount of destruction can boggle the mind.
They have disintegrated wheelwells/fenders and ripped open full wastwater tanks. If this happens it pretty much ruins the trip. A few bucks saved on tires then looks insignifignant.

[4X4Dodger]

spadoctor wrote:
Per Goodyear and others....as soon as a tire is made it starts to age and the life of a tire is 6 years. Call them up and have them exchanged for current stock

If you google tire aging you will find that the manufacturers themselves, those invested in selling tires, say that tires are perfectly good up to SEVEN to TEN years before needing to be replaced for age alone.

Every product ages before it is sold as NEW and the warranty starts. This is just the common practice and the realities of the manufacturing and distribution systems.

If the warranty starts on the date of Purchase, as it clearly does, that is when the tire is truly "new".

So much of the misinformation offered here as fact causes needless concern.

[jerem0621]

Specifically said non ST tires.

Experience 1-I have a small trailer that was delivered with P rated tires. Three shops will not replace the tires with the same tire.

Experience 2- I tried me investigate mounting LT tires on my TT and was flat refused by tire shops...that lead me to try Maxxiss and they have served me well.

My quote above still stands... As I explained my dad had a fiver with LT tires from the factory... I would love to see what those shops said with a fiver with LT's from the factory.

So there...you got my splaining

Have a nice day,

Jeremiah

[nohurry]

Just to jump in with a thought here. Summit Racing. Doesn't strike me as a business that sells a lot of trailer tires. Good company's? Absolutely. I've used them ( Not for tires), but when the time comes to replace my TT tires, Summit probably wouldn't have come to mind. Muscle car tires? Probably flying off the shelf at Summit Racing. ST tires? Probably not so much.

OP, glad it work for you this time. Keep your eye on em, and good luck.

[Huntindog]

jerem0621 wrote:


Lets just come to an understanding.. You tow MUCH MUCH heavier than I ever will and that disparity in weight has created a difference in experience when it comes to tires... that's the best answer I can come up with.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Yes I now tow heavy... My St experience ended before I got this TT though.... BUt supposedly ST tires are rated for heavier loads than LTs... Size for size, they have higher ratings... This is often quoted as an ST advantage... You seem to be saying that it is not.

Your story about why you found shops that would not mount LTs doesn't add up.
Now:

Jerimiah wrote:
And yes, I have had three shop TURN MONEY DOWN when I tried to replace non-ST tires on my trailer.. not my travel trailer.. not my PUP..My other trailer that came from the factory with non-st tires

Earlier in this very thread:

Jerimiah wrote:
Yes I fully am aware of that. Hence, the word SOME. There are a minimum of three shops local to me that will not mount a non ST tire on a trailer. Would love to present them with a trailer with LT tires

LUCY....You got some splainin to do.:B

[jerem0621]

And one more thing Mr. Huntingdog...I never ever said anything about "unsupported generalizations"... that was jfkmk. So please stop misquoting me.

I respect you, I have followed you for years, learned a lot from you, etc. Not sure why you are trying to prove a point with me but It's not working and not becoming of you or a representative of your character.

And yes, I have had three shop TURN MONEY DOWN when I tried to replace non-ST tires on my trailer.. not my travel trailer.. not my PUP..My other trailer that came from the factory with non-st tires.

Lets just come to an understanding.. You tow MUCH MUCH heavier than I ever will and that disparity in weight has created a difference in experience when it comes to tires... that's the best answer I can come up with.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[jerem0621]

Huntindog wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:

Westcoasting wrote:

jfkmk wrote:


That's a ridiculous generalization you simply can't support. There's plenty of arguments for purchasing LT tires and there's plenty of arguments for purchasing ST tires. To make the generalization that because someone didn't make the same decision you did means they did so based solely on price shows, well, ignorance.

What are the arguments for purchasing ST tires? Low price is the only one I can see.

Some places flat will not mount a non ST tire on a trailer. Sometimes it's just a need to have new tires vs eventually finding a place that will mount the non ST tires.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Give that tired old argument a rest. You full well know that there are TTs that come from the factory with LT tires. Before the advent of the ST, that is what we used.

Yes I fully am aware of that. Hence, the word SOME. There are a minimum of three shops local to me that will not mount a non ST tire on a trailer. Would love to present them with a trailer with LT tires.

It's not an argument it's a fact, SOME shops will not install non ST tires on a trailer.

Jeramy... You actually took a survey of tire shops, when you had absolutely no intention of using LT tires?

I have searched your posts... You are totally against LT tires. Never once had a good thing to say about them. So it flys in the face of reason that you were trying to find someone to mount some for you.

In fact, logic tells me that IF and it's a big IF, you actually have run across some shops that won't do it.... It is because that is what you were trying to find.

I and many others have NEVER run into such a situation... Though I am sure it has happened. Many tire shop workers are not the brightest tools in the shed. ( heck most of the time, they cannot even get all my tires inflated to the same psi.) So anything is possible.

But what you describe is not a normal situation.. You are just using it as a poor argument to support your views
So I am calling BS on this,

As for you calling BS on my " unsupported generalization" that cost tends to be the most important priority among ST tire buyers...
Isn't that precisely what happened in the OPs case?

He was all concerned about the age of the tires... They offered him several solutions, to get better tires, or he could get a few bucks back in his wallet... He chose the money back over better tires.

I think my observation was spot on.

All I can offer is my experience with the matter. And yes, I am a Maxxis tire preferred user... I am not against LT tires on a trailer...

My dad had them on his Fiver from the factory. I recommended he stay with them when some tire shops tried to put ST tires on his trailer. I've never said not to put LT tires on a trailer.. so not really sure what you've read in my posts... but.. I'll admit that I highly recommend Maxxis tires based on my experience with them.. thousands of miles... multiple years... etc.. No blow outs.. no issues but a nail I picked up..not sure that the LT tires would have helped in that case. .

Your experience doesn't invalidate mine and mine doesn't yours so...

I have no idea why you are trying to berate me for my experience...Perfectly fine though...whatever butters your bread man.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[pickjare]

This thread will be most meaningful to others in the future who find themselves wondering if they should install "brand new" trailer tires that have been sitting in a warehouse for an extended period of time. In my case, the tires are Maxxis M8008 ST type. I am not sure my results (and those of others who responded and had similar situation), will be as meaningful to other brands ST type tires, or to LT type. These are the concerns I had in mind: does the tire life become significantly reduced, and is there greater chance for premature failure of the tires if they are manufactured then set aside in a probably too cold or too hot building for almost 2 years in my case, others similar, then mounted up and finally their work begins. I'm not worried about tread wear, I'm talking blowouts for no explainable reasons. I found the responses very informative. Some day I will try to update this thread and explain how the tires are doing and it will help other people make their decisions. Other than the $100 refund which I felt I should explain, cost has NOTHING to do with the questions I had about the tires. I will air them up to 60psi (probably 60psi anyway, I will research this since I may not be at max load therefore may not need max pressure), I will drive less than 65mph on pavement and also a lot of dirt road/off road, I will visually inspect them often, and over time the answers to these questions will become clear. Then, if any of you get sold old tires you will know how important it is. You'll never have guessed something that I noticed when I walked in my garage and looked at the tires. They didn't really smell. New tires smell, I bought some snow tires for the car last fall, also online, had them in garage and walked in one day and whew, the smell of new tires was so strong. I don't know the date on them, but guaranty I checked, and since I don't remember it must not have been a concern, they were new and smelled like it. I guess if I ever walk in a tire store and can't smell tires I'll know to leave. But after what research I have done, I have a good feeling about using these tires. We will see. Thanks for the help.

[jmtandem]

I've noticed this happens a lot on this forum that even though the original poster has come to a suitable solution, the other posters just go on and on and on with arguments that no longer serve a purpose!!!!

The OP opened this discussion and obviously asked for feedback. I see no issue in continuing the discussion that benefits differing solutions on how to address the original issue as mentioned by the OP. If he did not want feedback then don't start a thread. He might be happy with his solution but how does it not benefit him to see how others would respond with the same issue?