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"Sorry, we do not take those any longer..."

broark01
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Explorer
said the lady at a campground in VA near Washington DC. I said it is a new 2018 truck camper on a 2015 DRW F350 and she repeated that they only took camping trailers, 5th wheels and motor homes. First time ever I have run into this limitation. There was no option to leave it on the truck just like a motor home, just that they don't take them (TC) anymore.

Anyone else experienced this truck camper "discrimination"?
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HMS_Beagle
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If the campground has full hookups, it's too developed for me. If it even has electricity, I'm shying away. If I bought something to stay in the RV parking lots, it'd be a large class A, so I don't have to go outside.
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Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
For me this it the best campground in the country.
They don't turn anybody away. Full hookups are limited, but all I care about is electricity.
Not a problem with finding empty sites neither.
The 100-120F summer temperatures in Valley of Fire might have something to do with it.

Frank_Mehaffey
Explorer
Explorer
Up in the northeast, there are several ways to describe a milkshake with ice cream. Some just say milkshake, thick or thin, and down on the Cape, we called them frappe's. I think that there are also regional labels for campgrounds. For seasoned campers, this is already something we understand, and have our own lists. If you don't like to read long, boring posts, leave now!

For me, I think of an RV "resort ' as an upper level place, sort of like the Mt. Washington Resort version of camping with larger, more prestigious units, like the ones I read about in Arizona, kinda like The Villages for the big units. With the outside furniture already supplied for you, and a higher level of amenities. If I can't stay there, I don't feel bad.

My wife and I camped several times in Quebec, urban camping, and at a campground in Sandusky, Ohio. Both had the campers about 4-5' away from each other, all asphalt. Had full hookups, but intended for people going to the amusement park, and only at their sites for sleeping and breakfast. Ok, but not were we go for a restful vacation.

When I think of a "normal" really nice, campground, I think of places like Cherry Hill RV resort, close to DC. Normal size campsites, full hookups, nice shower, hot tub and pool, well kept up laundry, great store, bus stop into DC. Very well kept up, nobody turned away.

When I think of a nice campground to stay, while on the road, I think of Savanna Oaks, off I95, Pedro's campground at South of the Border, Timberlane Campground in NJ off of the NJ Turnpike. Basically, nice places to stay going from point a to point b. Not too expensive, not a lot of amenities outside of great bathrooms.

We don't stay at a lot of state run parks, because I REALLY enjoy using our own bathroom, and having full hookups. Nothing personal, just not into them as a destination. We also stay at some rest areas/gas/food areas on the Northway in NY while going N or S, for 3/4 of a night, while coming home.

The best two campgrounds that my wife and I love to go to are at kinda opposite poles. Number 1 is Long Island Bridge Campground in Moultonboro, NH. We are about 100' from Lake Winniepauskee and have a medium size, full hookup site with a great view of the lake. They have a mixture of elec. only sites, right on the lake, about 1/2 seasonal sites around the campground, a tent area and wooded sites with water and electric, and very well taken care of bath and laundry buildings. The other is Fort Wilderness at Disney World. Immaculate sites, everything paved, but not like it is urban, at least to us. Feels like a Disney out in the woods movie set.We only go to walk and bike around the campground, go golfing and to the baseball park during spring training, and have it as a great home base, while we go to other areas off site. They take EVERYTHING, and allow doggies. In 35 years of camping there, never a bad experience. Of course we pay for it, but the NH campground is, to us, just as good if not better.

We have also stayed at places with plugged up toilets, noisy neighbors, toilet paper on the site where people emptied their tanks, nobody at the office, badly taken care of sites, etc. Some of those had really pretty ads on line and in Woodals. Live and learn while on the road.

Truck campers, along with class B's and other smaller units, can get ourselves into places where campers with serious money, could not get into, and are made to be moded so that you can camp without the problem of finding hookups. But that being said, we can all fit into the overwhelming majority of campgrounds idea of a nice camper. Who is to say that an Avion TC is not a great camper. Would you keep a 1960 Thunderbird out of a parking lot? Big rig, big $$ resorts, ok, I get it. But if a normal campground doesn't want us, they are using unfounded stereotypes of TC people, and losing $. If you don't want tubs or clotheslines, leaving the camper on, just say that, but don't assume that I will take a bath in the bed of my truck or empty the tanks like cousin Eddie in Christmas Vacation.

If a normal, private campground does not want TC's, it is their loss. As long as it doesn't have cedar shakes or duct tape, I have never heard anyone complain about ours. I won't get mad, but the owners have a pretty limited and misplaced understanding of our rigs.

jimh406
Explorer III
Explorer III
valhalla360 wrote:
If a trailer is on fire, you likely want to move it more than 10ft and you don't want to leave it in the road blocking fire truck access...so 100' isn't excessive.


If a TC is on fire, then it doesn’t matter if it is damaged. Again though, that’s an easy problem to solve. Just don’t allow TC to be unloaded.

Not saying they don’t exist, but I haven’t seen a tractor with forks at an RV park, but I haven’t visited them that much over the past 20 years or so.

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valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
jimh425 wrote:
valhalla360 wrote:
Pull a truck camper...first, there is no place to latch on and pull but even if you did, the jacks will likly rip off and then it will be dragging on it's bottom. A couple hundred feet and it may be a total loss.


Obviously, you haven’t seen a truck camper move on the jacks. Trust me, they can. If you have forks, you could easily lift it from underneath. That’s the way they take them off trailers. I’m not sure why you’d want to move one a couple hundred feet.



Actually I have seen them move them around RV lots.

I'm talking about a more typical tractor with 3-4' forks on the front not fork lift with 6-8' forks.

Also, when they lift them with a fork lift, it's typically from the rear so they can get the forks well under the bottom and center of gravity. In a typical camp site, getting behind is going to be difficult to impossible. Picking up from the front would require 8-10' forks.

If a trailer is on fire, you likely want to move it more than 10ft and you don't want to leave it in the road blocking fire truck access...so 100' isn't excessive.
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67avion
Explorer II
Explorer II
I can't think of a reason, other than something akin to having to find a restroom, why anyone with a TC would stay in a trailer park. Trailer parks are incredibly uncomfortable with people lined up cheek by jowl. They are the equivalent of tombstones in a cemetery.

The TC is the Marine Corps of RVs and it wants to be out in the country where the air smells good and the nights are dark.

In all my years on the road I think I've stayed in a trailer park one night. And that was an emergency of sorts. I hated it.

I'd rather spend the night in a Walnart Parking lot.

Frank_Mehaffey
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Well, some of my best friends are truck campers........The attitude of an RV resort, which caters to the large Prevost type, not wanting a small camper, I sort of get, but still the perception of a TC owner being messy around their site, compared to a different "type" of camper, is insulting and inaccurate. There is a "resort" around Williston, FL that would not take us several years ago. Williston is not exactly the Mecca of Florida, it is a small town and well away from a lot. You could bring in a small tow behind, but not a TC. IMO Riva sort of encouraged this perception, ignoring TC's place in the marketplace, until recently. Perhaps they can "educate" some of the campgrounds that don't allow certain types. If any KOA's did not allow TC's, I would discontinue my membership. To me, an RV resort is different than an RV campground, but glamping, while making more $ for the camping industry, is not where camping came from, and restricting TC's in a normal campground is like those businesses shooting themselves in the foot. Nuff said.

Bedlam
Moderator
Moderator
Maybe Lance is different because CA does not register them? Since WA and OR require registration, it appears all the campers built in those states have proper VIN's.

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mellow
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Explorer
work2much wrote:
mellow wrote:
Sango wrote:
Ours has a vin number. Posted on back by ladder.


Probably says Vehicle Serial No.




This must have changed recently, I know Lance still only issues serial numbers.

"From jumbo motor homes to towable pop-up trailers, all RVs will have a VIN assigned. However, the campers that slide into the back of a truck bed, known commonly as "Truck Campers" or "Slide In" or "Cab-Over" campers will only have a serial number for that specific unit instead of a 17-digit VIN."

http://www.truckcamperadventure.com/2013/11/which-states-require-truck-camper_16/
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jimh406
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Explorer III
camperdave wrote:
Yeah, but look at the failure. It looks like it toppled because the front jack ripped out which is not dependent on weight.


I missed that.

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camperdave
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jimh425 wrote:
djg wrote:
80 MPH winds did this to my camper in spring 2018 camper was as low as it could go still got blown over now I put it down on blocks so it is more stable


How much does that weigh? I think probably way less than 4000 lbs.


Yeah, but look at the failure. It looks like it toppled because the front jack ripped out which is not dependent on weight. In fact, more weight might make it worse.

Different manufacturers may have different ways the jacks attach though, I dunno. When we had our TC (when I was a kid) we'd set the camper down on wood benches to take the load off the jacks. Seemed much more stable.
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jimh406
Explorer III
Explorer III
djg wrote:
80 MPH winds did this to my camper in spring 2018 camper was as low as it could go still got blown over now I put it down on blocks so it is more stable


How much does that weigh? I think probably way less than 4000 lbs.

'10 Ford F-450, 6.4, 4.30, 4x4, 14,500 GVWR, '06 Host Rainer 950 DS, Torklift Talon tiedowns, Glow Steps, and Fastguns. Bilstein 4600s, Firestone Bags, Toyo M655 Gs, Curt front hitch, Energy Suspension bump stops.

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Sango
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mellow wrote:
Sango wrote:
Ours has a vin number. Posted on back by ladder.


Probably says Vehicle Serial No.


Nope it’s a VIN number. I think in some states you have to register your camper but not in Texas.
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Eric_Lisa
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Explorer II
camperdave wrote:
...KOA's are independently owned and operated....


So are McDonald's franchises. It is reasonable to expect a similar experience & product at each location. If one location is giving the brand a bad reputation, then it is up to the larger organization to kick them out. Since this KOA still exists, it therefore must be providing an acceptable brand experience for customers.

Yes, I know experiences vary. For me, that one experience was such a slap in the face that it has soured me to the entire brand. I'll keep driving before I stop at another KOA.

-Eric
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