RAM passes FORD in HD sales.

[Me_Again]

Reading "Heavy Duty Trucking" Jan 2016 issue. HDT and other trade mags publish sales reports for various classes of trucks sorted by brand and class.
For November 2015 in class 3,4,5, 10001-19500 lb class, Ram outsold Ford 43.01 percent to 35.14 percent. A pretty good margin.

Ram, Nov 12,345/ YTD 141,423/ 43.01 percent
Ford, Nov 10,307/ YTD 115,553/ 35.14 percent
Chevrolet Nov 2867/ YTD 34,497/ 10.49 percent

Other brands in this class are; Freightliner, GMC, HINO, International, Isuzu, KW, Mitsubishi for a total of 328,819 units.

truckinginfo.com

[v10superduty]

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[Bird_Freak]

jtallon wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
I think the last paragraph may be the smartest thing I have heard you say in a while.:B

Some day I hope I can say the same in return! :B

Kidding! Just kidding!

If you wait long enough it might happen, never know.:B

[Cummins12V98]

"Do you know where the Aisin transmission is from? "

Fairly certain it's US Made in the RAM.

[DakotaDad]

Bird Freak wrote:
I think the last paragraph may be the smartest thing I have heard you say in a while.:B

Some day I hope I can say the same in return! :B

Kidding! Just kidding!

[Bird_Freak]

jtallon wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
You really want to talk about Mexico? Do you know where the Aisin transmission is from? I will give you a hint. My wifes KIA SORENTO has one in it.:B

Why not? I don't see anyone making claims about the Ram being made in the USA. We all know what it is, and where the components are made, and where they're assembled.

But when Mom hands me a big 'ol Apple Pie with a "Made in the USA" sticker on pie pan, I don't expect to find a jalapeno in it! I might feel slightly misled!

Frankly, if you're going to end up with a jalapeno, you might as well just order the burrito that's honest about it's ingredients! :B

That said, as I mentioned in another thread... where it's made really is of very little concern to me. It ranks right about the same as "color" when picking a truck. Capability, comfort, options, price, and others tend to come way before...

I think the last paragraph may be the smartest thing I have heard you say in a while.:B

[DakotaDad]

Bird Freak wrote:
You really want to talk about Mexico? Do you know where the Aisin transmission is from? I will give you a hint. My wifes KIA SORENTO has one in it.:B

Why not? I don't see anyone making claims about the Ram being made in the USA. We all know what it is, and where the components are made, and where they're assembled.

But when Mom hands me a big 'ol Apple Pie with a "Made in the USA" sticker on pie pan, I don't expect to find a jalapeno in it! I might feel slightly misled!

Frankly, if you're going to end up with a jalapeno, you might as well just order the burrito that's honest about it's ingredients! :B

That said, as I mentioned in another thread... where it's made really is of very little concern to me. It ranks right about the same as "color" when picking a truck. Capability, comfort, options, price, and others tend to come way before...

[blt2ski]

Bird Freak wrote:

jtallon wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

jtallon wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
In addition Ford has announced they are spending more money to tool up the Ohio plant where they are building the new F650/F750 trucks and adding another line just to build it's F450/F550 trucks. Made in the USA...Yes! :B

So they all come with the 6.2L then? :B

Perhaps someone from Ohio,USA can chime in...

Or someone from Ford’s "Engine Plant II" in Chihuahua, Mexico unless Ford is shipping them sans-Powerstoke now...

A little like finding a jalapeño in your apple pie! :B

You really want to talk about Mexico? Do you know where the Aisin transmission is from? I will give you a hint. My wifes KIA SORENTO has one in it.:B

Some folks forget we are in a global economy, whether they like it or not. Someone in bangladash may very well own a few shares in ALL the above companies. Much less the few that live in Antarctica......so profits go ALL over the place, not just to HQ of the company!

Most companies also make very light duty/small things, along with heavier duty larger things. At the end of the day, if it works for you, then it is a good thing, if not, a POJUNK!

marty

[Bird_Freak]

jtallon wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

jtallon wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
In addition Ford has announced they are spending more money to tool up the Ohio plant where they are building the new F650/F750 trucks and adding another line just to build it's F450/F550 trucks. Made in the USA...Yes! :B

So they all come with the 6.2L then? :B

Perhaps someone from Ohio,USA can chime in...

Or someone from Ford’s "Engine Plant II" in Chihuahua, Mexico unless Ford is shipping them sans-Powerstoke now...

A little like finding a jalapeño in your apple pie! :B

You really want to talk about Mexico? Do you know where the Aisin transmission is from? I will give you a hint. My wifes KIA SORENTO has one in it.:B

[shepstone]

I can get as far as the Jan edition of trucking info but then I seem to hit a dead end, any more clues? Am I looking in the wrong place?

[Bird_Freak]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Me Again wrote:

Vintage465 wrote:
I think it's kind of interesting that everyone is talking about the engines. I bought my GMC Denali based nearly entirely on the transmission. Strongest one available, bullet proof record. Engines? All of them have massive horsepower and torque, though Dodge is ridiculous on the torque factor. And the bottom line is............buy what you want! We're not in highschool anymore, we don't always have to own the most popular and always be right or the flavor of the month.

Actual the Allison 1000 has run out of gas at current Duramax ratings, and they have dropped out of the HP/torque race. The FORD Torque Shift transmission and the Aisin are both much stronger and very reliable.

Chris

Sir you beat me to it! The Aisin is a TRUE Medium Duty Trans, along with the MediumDuty Cummins is a solid combo

The Allison in the LD trucks is not the same as in MD applications. Yes it is a great trans but as Chris points out it needs a Major updating.

I have to admit the Aisin trans is pretty good. That's whats in my wife's Kia Sorento.:)

[Me_Again]

FishOnOne wrote:

Me Again wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Me Again wrote:
Fact is FORD is now in a position to have to win back customers in the class 3, 4 and 5 market.

I'm not so sure about that!

Link

However, this thread is about class 3, 4, and 5 trucks. We all know that FORD sells a ton of F150's.

These numbers are a break out of trucks doing the real HD work out on the streets and roads. Like I said earlier, the cost of ownership has cost FORD the leadership in this segment. You are however late to game and did not take time to read the whole thread?

The link I provided does not include .5 tons

In addition it would be good if you could provide a link to your claims

Read the thread.

[FishOnOne]

Me Again wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Me Again wrote:
Fact is FORD is now in a position to have to win back customers in the class 3, 4 and 5 market.

I'm not so sure about that!

Link

However, this thread is about class 3, 4, and 5 trucks. We all know that FORD sells a ton of F150's.

These numbers are a break out of trucks doing the real HD work out on the streets and roads. Like I said earlier, the cost of ownership has cost FORD the leadership in this segment. You are however late to game and did not take time to read the whole thread?

The link I provided does not include .5 tons

In addition it would be good if you could provide a link to your claims

[Me_Again]

FishOnOne wrote:

Me Again wrote:
Fact is FORD is now in a position to have to win back customers in the class 3, 4 and 5 market.

I'm not so sure about that!

Link

However, this thread is about class 3, 4, and 5 trucks. We all know that FORD sells a ton of F150's.

These numbers are a break out of trucks doing the real HD work out on the streets and roads. Like I said earlier, the cost of ownership has cost FORD the leadership in this segment. You are however late to game and did not take time to read the whole thread?

[Bedlam]

Hannibal wrote:
Is that a C-channel chassis under there? Beautiful truck!

The frame is fully boxed under the cab and then goes to open c-channel for easy upfitting.

BTW: The front end of this truck is nothing like the 3500 or smaller models. It uses a 5-link suspension and heavier wide-track axle.

[NC_Hauler]

Hannibal wrote:

Bedlam wrote:

06Fargo wrote:
So is a 550/5500 truck a "2 ton" ?

Call it what you want - My 10,000 lb Ram 5500 has a 9000 lb payload which is 4.5 tons.



With 2 tons the overloads are not touching and still have a gap.

Is that a C-channel chassis under there? Beautiful truck!

NC, hope you're getting better and continue to get better.

Thanks buddy, I'm working at it...it's slow but I GOTTA try as hard as I can to recoup my arm and leg strength.

Thank you very much for your kind thoughts,
Jim