โJun-16-2015 11:03 AM
โJun-17-2015 04:51 AM
Had three bunks in the rear, and the bottom was covered in galvanized metal. Looked new. The seller had updated the electrical. I would have considered buying it had I been in the market.
โJun-17-2015 04:49 AM
2012Coleman wrote:
But there is one such company - Trailmanor. I linked them earlier, but I don't think the OP is interested. The rest of your post is spot on. I recently saw an old TT for sale on the side of the raod and stopped to look at it. It was 1975 model manufactured in Germany - spotless, well designed. Had three bunks in the rear, and the bottom was covered in galvanized metal. Looked new. The seller had updated the electrical. I would have considered buying it had I been in the market.
โJun-17-2015 04:41 AM
want 3-4 individual beds for the kids,
We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.
โJun-17-2015 04:41 AM
โJun-17-2015 04:31 AM
โJun-17-2015 03:52 AM
qtla9111 wrote:But there is one such company - Trailmanor. I linked them earlier, but I don't think the OP is interested. The rest of your post is spot on. I recently saw an old TT for sale on the side of the raod and stopped to look at it. It was 1975 model manufactured in Germany - spotless, well designed. Had three bunks in the rear, and the bottom was covered in galvanized metal. Looked new. The seller had updated the electrical. I would have considered buying it had I been in the market.
As an SUV owner I understand some of the frustration the OP is going through. There are some legitimate points. It is obvious that the rv manufacturers pay little attention to the vehicle market and the growing number of SUVs. Some people like pickups and some don't.
I prefer an SUV as it holds up to nine passengers when not towing, gets decent gas mileage and can also pull my rv. You don't see many if any 24ft TTs with two slideouts.
Someone on page two mentioned the European market and with reason. The U.S. is way behind other markets and it's not just Europeans, it is also the Japanese and the Chinese.
Why would I want to go out and buy a new tow vehicle when there should be something manufactured to cater to the SUV market? Going out to buy a pickup to accommodate an rv is like putting the cart before the horse. Makes no sense.
I think the reason we are seeing this dilemma is because rv manufacturers realize how gullible the consumer market is. They can produce anything they want cheaply and people will find a work around to make it fit even if it means buying a new vehicle. Crazy.
โJun-16-2015 11:06 PM
Lantley wrote:krobbe wrote:qtla9111 wrote:
Great video unfortunately, another downside to the U.S. market because in Europe they are big on diesel cars and SUVs. No need to defend the market, it's just that it is behind the rest of the world for some unknown reason.
Practical Caravan's Land Rover Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE tow car review
Read more at http://www.practi...
The US isn't behind the Europeans in anything! Some of us like larger vehicles and RVs. That doesn't make us behind anyone. That makes us Grand!
Exactly Europe simply doesn't have the vast areas of open space we have in the US. There roads cannot accommodate the large RV vehicles we have here. Do we want to compare fuel prices? Who's behind?
โJun-16-2015 09:18 PM
gmw photos wrote:johnsoax wrote:Lantley wrote:
When you become a serious/dedicated camper you will make the necessary changes,adaptations and compromises to obtain a capable tow vehicle and a RV that matches it.
As someone who has been camping in mutiple forms for over 30 years, this comment is breathtaking in its arrogance.
If you would meander into the Folding camper forum you will see I am not alone, by far.
This is quite the thread. However, it appear the OP has answered his own question:
"..... meander into the Folding camper forum you will see....."
So there you go. Buy a folding camper, hook it to the Rover, load up the family and go enjoy the great outdoors. Problem solved.
โJun-16-2015 08:50 PM
rbpru wrote:
If there were a market for a gonzo SUV one of the manufacturers would fill it.
If they did fill it it would cost a small fortune and ride like a truck.
If you do the math, how many families have a lot of kids; how many of those can afford a large SUV; how many of that group own TTs.
If I recall the appeal of an SUV is the sense of security it gives the owners, not its towing capacity.
โJun-16-2015 08:42 PM
itguy08 wrote:krobbe wrote:
[Sarc]Land Rover... Ick! Ship it back across the pond and get yourself a real SUV![Sarc]
Or continue to tow a popup that's within the Land Rover ratings. Tea anyone?
LOL. I'd say Land Rover is the original "Real SUV" and I don't even own one. Although the Evoque looks gorgeous.
โJun-16-2015 08:39 PM
โJun-16-2015 08:38 PM
johnsoax wrote:Lantley wrote:
When you become a serious/dedicated camper you will make the necessary changes,adaptations and compromises to obtain a capable tow vehicle and a RV that matches it.
As someone who has been camping in mutiple forms for over 30 years, this comment is breathtaking in its arrogance.
If you would meander into the Folding camper forum you will see I am not alone, by far.
โJun-16-2015 08:34 PM
johnsoax wrote:
And then I am stuck with a vehicle that gets really lousy gas mileage and is too big 75% of the year.
โJun-16-2015 07:47 PM
krobbe wrote:qtla9111 wrote:
Great video unfortunately, another downside to the U.S. market because in Europe they are big on diesel cars and SUVs. No need to defend the market, it's just that it is behind the rest of the world for some unknown reason.
Practical Caravan's Land Rover Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE tow car review
Read more at http://www.practi...
The US isn't behind the Europeans in anything! Some of us like larger vehicles and RVs. That doesn't make us behind anyone. That makes us Grand!
โJun-16-2015 07:43 PM
krobbe wrote:
[Sarc]Land Rover... Ick! Ship it back across the pond and get yourself a real SUV![Sarc]
Or continue to tow a popup that's within the Land Rover ratings. Tea anyone?