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Really Disappointing (T/C Weight)

GAR2
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I found a t/c I really like but looks like weight will be too heavy. I know some of the members here have said my truck will handle more than the gvwr assigned by Ford but it has me concerned.
I still haven’t weighed my truck (2002 F350 4/4 Dually Longbed/ 7.3PSD, Loadlifter 5000# airbags) but has got to be in the 8200# range + or - and Ford says gvwr is 11,500.
The T/C is a 2016 Livin Lite Ford 10.0 and dry weight is estimated at 3K and wet weight at 4K. It would have looked great matched up on the F350.
It still spooks me to run over the GVWR by much and then get pulled over and checked.
I read the story behind the start up of the all aluminum Livin lite campers, merge with Ford, and then buy out and shut down of the Company - what a shame!
In the market to buy a T/C
2002 F350 4wd CC DRW 8’ box
Load Lifter 5000 rear air bags, front Timbrens
Rancho 9000 shocks
Brighton, Illinois
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GAR2
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Kayteg1 wrote:
And again, GVWR is taxable number. If you worry about exceeding it, go to DMV and pay higher taxes. End of the story.
Heck, my aluminium dually with TC is just few hundreds lb below its GVWR.
Would I load 3 passengers and more beer, I am over it easy.



Thank you Kayteg, it’s not so much “the truck” and I believe I am more than covered under my licensed weight— it’s the issue of State Farm or other drivers insurance company’s involvement should there be an accident- even no fault of my own and how they will view the issue.
In the market to buy a T/C
2002 F350 4wd CC DRW 8’ box
Load Lifter 5000 rear air bags, front Timbrens
Rancho 9000 shocks
Brighton, Illinois

Kayteg1
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And again, GVWR is taxable number. If you worry about exceeding it, go to DMV and pay higher taxes. End of the story.
Heck, my aluminium dually with TC is just few hundreds lb below its GVWR.
Would I load 3 passengers and more beer, I am over it easy.

GAR2
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Grit dog wrote:
In the spirit of Christmas, this thread should get shut down now. Nothing good or new will come of this discussion compared to the 100 others.
Nor will it help or hinder the OPs position as he was simply venting that he isn't comfortable putting that camper on his truck. He wasn't asking for advice about it, but rather just stating his opinion.


Not true. You know, it’s attitude like yours that keeps new people from wanting to be on or go to these forums. I’ve never had a t/c. What’s wrong with being cautious. I do know that it was a general opinion from a previous thread I had started that a lot of guys are over their GVWR. I bought this truck to plan for retirement, a F350 Dually seemed like a big truck at the time, but I didn’t realize how heavy a lot of the t/c’s are. The truck manufacturers have also upped their game with bigger gvwr’s and gcwr’s. It was a comment and yes I’m frustrated, I have looked at a lot of available t/c’s in my area though this part of Illinois doesn’t have many. I appreciate the comments others felt like offering, I am leaning towards going over the gvwr - I have tried to do everything legal by getting D plates and having my truck inspection done which many don’t. I won’t bid you any ill will as it’s “Christmas” as you wanted to point out, but if your not going to try to be helpful or constructive maybe you should keep your comments to yourself.
In the market to buy a T/C
2002 F350 4wd CC DRW 8’ box
Load Lifter 5000 rear air bags, front Timbrens
Rancho 9000 shocks
Brighton, Illinois

jaycocreek
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Explorer II
Grit dog wrote:
In the spirit of Christmas, this thread should get shut down now. Nothing good or new will come of this discussion compared to the 100 others.
Nor will it help or hinder the OPs position as he was simply venting that he isn't comfortable putting that camper on his truck. He wasn't asking for advice about it, but rather just stating his opinion.


Naw,I won't say it. Lol
Lance 9.6
400 watts solar mounted/200 watts portable
500ah Lifep04

mbloof
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Grit dog wrote:
In the spirit of Christmas, this thread should get shut down now. Nothing good or new will come of this discussion compared to the 100 others.
Nor will it help or hinder the OPs position as he was simply venting that he isn't comfortable putting that camper on his truck. He wasn't asking for advice about it, but rather just stating his opinion.


Another dead horse to kick around? LOL

+1 close it before it gets ugly.


- Mark0.

Lwiddis
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Explorer II
GAR2, if youu are uncomfortable with the TC's weight on your truck then you won't be happy. Camping should make you happy!
Winnebago 2101DS TT & 2022 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71, WindyNation 300 watt solar-Lossigy 200 AH Lithium battery. Prefer boondocking, USFS, COE, BLM, NPS, TVA, state camps. Bicyclist. 14 yr. Army -11B40 then 11A - (MOS 1542 & 1560) IOBC & IOAC grad

jaycocreek
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Explorer II
Very few here are under there GVWR compared to those that are over..That being said..I had never weighed any of my previous truck campers prior to being on this forum..I am sure a few were over the GVWR of the pickup used,but who cares anyway..Certainly not me and they all rode really good with minimal sway except one..

That is one kool looking TC with the big 'ol Ford emblem on the side..If that floorplan is what you and your family really like,I would get it..You have enough pickup with some mods so it shouldn't travel to bad if your used to carrying truck campers..You can always travel Lite(Laffin') without loading it really heavy and be close to where you want to be..

I have never heard anywhere of a TC being pulled over and ticketed because of weight and there are some that maybe should be,but your 1-ton truck with that camper is not one that would..

I have a DRW and 4600# of payload and I am almost at my GVWR with a 9.6 Non-slide/no basement TC all loaded up ready to camp..If you go by the GVWR you will be limited to very few non-slide TC's like the Lance 850 to meet the GVWR of your rig and that may put you over a small amount...

Great looking TC..Go for it...LOL
Lance 9.6
400 watts solar mounted/200 watts portable
500ah Lifep04

Grit_dog
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In the spirit of Christmas, this thread should get shut down now. Nothing good or new will come of this discussion compared to the 100 others.
Nor will it help or hinder the OPs position as he was simply venting that he isn't comfortable putting that camper on his truck. He wasn't asking for advice about it, but rather just stating his opinion.
2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5” turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

romore
Explorer II
Explorer II
You are unlikely to be pulled over and checked as you are not a commercial vehicle unless there is an obvious problem. However if you are involved in an accident it could be a whole new ball game. Weigh the truck so you have hard numbers to work with.
Back in the distant past I got pulled over by the RCMP, dad's pickup was obviously overloaded with gravel. He made me turn around and drive eight miles back to the scale where I was waved through. I parked and went inside where the weighmaster asked what the problem was. I said "Ask him" as the cop came through the door. He told the cop I was obviously overloaded but he didn't care as it was a non commercial vehicle.

Kayteg1
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GVWR is taxable number and has nothing to do with camper carrying.
Since most of TC weight goes on the rear axle, the math is pretty easy.
Find your rear axle rating on door pillar, deduct the actual weight and you have what camper weight you can safely carry.
When tax issue theoretically might hit you, beside British Columbia nobody reported being scaled by DOT officers in USA.
Than you still can go to DMV and pay higher taxes for higher GVWR classification.

GAR2
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A friend of mine just informed me that we have a FS in the next rural neighboring town just North of me about 12 miles away with an outside scale that’s on all the time......I plan to run up there tonight or tomorrow evening to see what my truck weighs—- thanks for the input guys!
In the market to buy a T/C
2002 F350 4wd CC DRW 8’ box
Load Lifter 5000 rear air bags, front Timbrens
Rancho 9000 shocks
Brighton, Illinois

Fire19
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Well I have a 2000 F-350 Dually Crew cab XLT and 8' box and mine weighs in @ 7960 with a full tank of fuel according to the Cat Scales.
2000 Ford F-350 Dually Crew Cab
2002 Gulfstream Seahawk 29FKS
1998 GL1500SE

SidecarFlip
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Being the odd camper out, my camper weight (laden) is well under the GCW of my 350 ford. How I like it. Legal.
2015 Backpack SS1500
1997 Ford 7.3 OBS 4x4 CC LB

NRALIFR
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I was thinking your truck weight would be more like 7800 +/-.

My 1995 F350 CC long bed 7.3 weighed 7280 lbs with two people in the cab and 65 gallons of diesel. I didn’t think the next gen truck gained that much weight, but maybe so.

:):)
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specta
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Mines over the gvw too when all loaded up and its not a concern to me.

I see no reason why your truck couldn't handle that camper.
Kenny
1996 Jayco 376FB Eagle Series TT
1997 Jayco 246FB Eagle Series TT
1976 Ford F-250 4wd Mercury Marauder 410 - 4V
Regular cabs. The best looking trucks.