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โMar-09-2019 03:04 PM
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โMar-15-2019 10:12 PM
1. Cost - must not be burdensome, it is a hobby not a necessity.
2. Tow vehicle - most vehicles can pull a lot more than they can carry. That means you run out of payload or maximum cargo capacity before you run out of towing capacity. So bigger truck or smaller trailer.
3. Floor plan - if the floor plan is not correct you are stuck. There are a few mods you can make but most items cover other items.
All three of these legs have to be right. But only you can tell if they are right for you.
My plan was to replace our dinette benches with chairs and forgo the extra bed. But, one bench covered the furnace the other the water pump. I now have one bench, one chair and a small box over the pump.
My wife and I come from 20 years of canoe and tent background. There in little in our RV world that is more than a large or small annoyances. However, it can be costly at times.
Good luck
Just right for Grandpa, Grandma and the dog.
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โMar-15-2019 04:20 PM
robsb1234 wrote:
So, what I'm hearing is that I should just buy a new truck. Thanks, I'll let the wife know.
Well, a smaller TT is also an option... but don't tell your wife.
2018 Coachmen Catalina Legacy Edition 223RBS
1991 Palomino Filly PUP
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โMar-15-2019 02:22 PM
You will learn a lot about towing, camping, handling and how much **** you really take. Plus you can even take it across the CAT scales to see how much of a load you are really adding to the truck, when loaded for the road.
All this before you have spent the big bucks.
We did and spent a week in the Ozarks; I definitely knew I needed more horse power after that trip. ๐
Just right for Grandpa, Grandma and the dog.
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โMar-15-2019 09:00 AM
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โMar-15-2019 07:59 AM
Talk with Brad before you commit to an American built unit.
It may be out of your price point but you won't be disappointed in the build quality.
Brad will not sell you anything your truck can't handle
Good Luck in your search.
30 years RV'ing and 8 campers.
2012 Camplite 5.7
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โMar-15-2019 03:55 AM
The softer suspension on half tons made that no fun for me. Have fun and be safe.
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โMar-14-2019 05:20 PM
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โMar-12-2019 03:26 PM
robsb1234 wrote:
Good points everyone. Payload from door sticker is 1644#.
You will have a tough time with any of the trailers you are looking at.
Realize that the ~250 lb difference in payload numbers, from the brochure to the sticker, equates to ~ 2,000 lbs less trailer weight (using 12.5% for tongue weight).
So a 5,000 lb trailer will have a tongue weight of ~625 lbs.
A 7,000 lb trailer will have a tongue weight of ~875 lbs.
2010 Cougar 30RKS
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โMar-12-2019 09:40 AM
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โMar-12-2019 09:36 AM
I've got a 2015 GMC with a payload of 2015 (from the door sticker) and am maxed with my Cougar gross weight of 8,200 lbs. My max trailer is 10,800, but I run out of payload.
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โMar-10-2019 11:40 AM
robsb1234 wrote:
2014 F150 4x4 supercab 5.0L engine 3.55 axle ratio
Rated curb weight:5460#
GVWR:7350#
Payload: 1890#
GCW: 13500#
Max rated trailer weight:7800#
8000# e2 2 point sway control round bar weight distribution hitch
So, what do you think?
Is that the payload number from the door sticker on your truck? Or is it from a brochure or towing guide? You'll want to use the door sticker number, which is the actual payload of your particular vehicle, as equipped from the factory.
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1991 Palomino Filly PUP
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โMar-10-2019 10:50 AM
The Jayco is 33' long and the Grey Wolf is 31.7' These are both getting to be long-ish TTs...
Always ignore dry weights and go by GVWR. Jayco is 8750 lbs and Grey Wolf is 7725 lbs. Allow 12-13% for actual tongue weights. The Jayco could be as much as 1,100 lbs and the Grey Wolf 1,000 lbs. These TWs could be less but you won't know for sure until you go to a scale after it's fully loaded for camping. The WDH will add approx. 100 lbs. Sometimes TW can be up to around 15%, like in our case.
Truck has 1890 lbs payload rating. Similarly, you won't know exactly what it is for sure until you take it to a scale. If you've added any upgrades like a cap, bedliner for ex., that will take away from the rating. Load the truck up with all passengers, pets and camping stuff you'd typically take, fill up the fuel tank and get it weighed. The weight of all this additional payload could be in the 500-1,000 lb range or even higher.
Looks to me like you will be near or over the GCWR & payload rating on the truck. Even *if* just under the numbers, it doesn't mean it will be a good towing experience, especially if you plan to travel longer distances and often. Personally, I think both TTs are too much for the current truck.
What are the axle ratings on these TTs and what specs do the tires have? What frame type? One-piece I-beam or the 3-piece welded up type? Jayco used to be generally well regarded but Thor Industries bought them out (along with many other brands) and I don't know if the quality has gone downhill or not.
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โMar-10-2019 07:25 AM
robsb1234 wrote:
2014 F150 4x4 supercab 5.0L engine 3.55 axle ratio
Rated curb weight:5460#
GVWR:7350#
Payload: 1890#
GCW: 13500#
Max rated trailer weight:7800#
8000# e2 2 point sway control round bar weight distribution hitch
So, what do you think?
You know the trailer will be right up against the tow weight.
OK so trailer at about 1000 lbs tongue against payload, add 100 for WDH.
You have 790 left for cargo in truck bed, passengers in cab and what the kids want to carry with them.
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โMar-10-2019 07:17 AM
Thatโs only one of the two most important numbers. Whatโs your TV payload?