Too Much Trailer for the TV???

[_1nobby]

Too much trailer for this tow vehicle?

[BarneyS]

beemerphile1 wrote:

BarneyS wrote:

Great picture but do you know for a fact what happened to the frame?

It has a WDH. Was it too heavy rated for the TT?

Was the TT damaged in a previous accident?

Was it simply defective?

A number of Weekend Warriors were recalled due to the wrong gauge steel used for the tongue. The result was them slowly bending over time.

A trailer on a ball without a WDH will not be overly stressed by a heavier duty truck.

A picture without mucho information means nothing.

1. The only thing I know for a fact is that the A frame bent.
It has a ProPride hitch on it so I assume it had at least 1000lb bars which should not have been too much for the 6" A frame.

2. I don't know if that is a Weekend Warrior toy hauler or not.

3. What documentation can you provide for backing up your statement that a trailer on a ball W/O a WDH would not be overly stressed by a heavier duty truck?
Common sense tells me that is it possible that the HD truck could transmit more and stronger jolts to the A frame which could lead to metal fatigue.

4. My reason for posting the picture was in reaction to another members post that said "The entire trailer frame is simply going to rock on it's own springs. It isn't going to flex/stress or damage the A frame."
Barney

[beemerphile1]

BarneyS wrote:

Great picture but do you know for a fact what happened to the frame?

It has a WDH. Was it too heavy rated for the TT?

Was the TT damaged in a previous accident?

Was it simply defective?

A number of Weekend Warriors were recalled due to the wrong gauge steel used for the tongue. The result was them slowly bending over time.

A trailer on a ball without a WDH will not be overly stressed by a heavier duty truck.

A picture without mucho information means nothing.

[intheburbs]

Saw this at Grand Canyon a few years ago....think he has enough TV for the trailer?

[_1nobby]

BarneyS wrote:

I think that the WD hitch is working WAY too hard. 🙂

[dodge_guy]

BarneyS wrote:

Jay Coe wrote:

Hannibal wrote:


On a buckboard conrete interstate, you seriously can't tell the difference in ride between an F550 and your F150? You can't understand that the harsh ride of the F550 gets transmitted to the tongue of the trailer? We can't always predict the road's surface nor can we creep down the interstate to ease over rough concrete expansion joints or dips in the road. If that ball that the travel trailer is hooked to is jerking up and down with the stiff suspension of the F550, the A frame is going to flex as it absorbs the shock and will eventually fail.

Hogwash. The entire trailer frame is simply going to rock on it's own springs. It isn't going to flex/stress or damage the A frame.

I agree, sometimes there is such a thing as too much truck!

[BarneyS]

Jay Coe wrote:

Hannibal wrote:


On a buckboard conrete interstate, you seriously can't tell the difference in ride between an F550 and your F150? You can't understand that the harsh ride of the F550 gets transmitted to the tongue of the trailer? We can't always predict the road's surface nor can we creep down the interstate to ease over rough concrete expansion joints or dips in the road. If that ball that the travel trailer is hooked to is jerking up and down with the stiff suspension of the F550, the A frame is going to flex as it absorbs the shock and will eventually fail.

Hogwash. The entire trailer frame is simply going to rock on it's own springs. It isn't going to flex/stress or damage the A frame.

[_1nobby]

98coachman wrote:
Look what you started nobby.:B

And here I thought my social experiment was a bust.

I just needed to be patient!

[Hannibal]

Jay Coe wrote:

Hannibal wrote:


On a buckboard conrete interstate, you seriously can't tell the difference in ride between an F550 and your F150? You can't understand that the harsh ride of the F550 gets transmitted to the tongue of the trailer? We can't always predict the road's surface nor can we creep down the interstate to ease over rough concrete expansion joints or dips in the road. If that ball that the travel trailer is hooked to is jerking up and down with the stiff suspension of the F550, the A frame is going to flex as it absorbs the shock and will eventually fail.

Hogwash. The entire trailer frame is simply going to rock on it's own springs. It isn't going to flex/stress or damage the A frame.

Is that like a car wash for Harleys? With a properly sprung tow vehicle, it will rock on its trailer axles. With too much truck, it's going to be shook like a dirty rug. This will flex, stress and eventually damage the A frame.

[Fordlover]

Jay Coe wrote:

Hannibal wrote:


On a buckboard conrete interstate, you seriously can't tell the difference in ride between an F550 and your F150? You can't understand that the harsh ride of the F550 gets transmitted to the tongue of the trailer? We can't always predict the road's surface nor can we creep down the interstate to ease over rough concrete expansion joints or dips in the road. If that ball that the travel trailer is hooked to is jerking up and down with the stiff suspension of the F550, the A frame is going to flex as it absorbs the shock and will eventually fail.

Hogwash. The entire trailer frame is simply going to rock on it's own springs. It isn't going to flex/stress or damage the A frame.

Been a while since materials class, but I'm fairly certain metal fatigue is 'a thing.'

[GrandpaKip]

98coachman wrote:
Look what you started nobby.:B

And it will now devolve into how TT’s are total junk and the a-frames will fall apart anyway.

[JIMNLIN]

Bryan wrote:
I had one trailer damage the front siding where the A-frame flexed. I had another trailer where the A-frame failed completely. A stiffer truck is absolutely harder on the part of the trailer chassis susceptible to the highest forces. I remember my Jayco voided the warranty if it was towed with a truck heavier than a 1-ton.

Same here...
When I had my small multi state construction business we ran 16' and 18' cargo trailers with tandem 3500 lb axles as tool trailers. We had to stop towing them with our one ton DRW trucks as they were to hard on the trailers interiors (bins and special made containers on the walls) and chassis issues(cracked and broken A frames/couplers).
I compensated employees with 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks to pull them between job sites. Issues stopped completely.

its been my experience we can have too much tow vehicle

[98coachman]

Look what you started nobby.:B

[carringb]

Jay Coe wrote:

Hannibal wrote:


On a buckboard conrete interstate, you seriously can't tell the difference in ride between an F550 and your F150? You can't understand that the harsh ride of the F550 gets transmitted to the tongue of the trailer? We can't always predict the road's surface nor can we creep down the interstate to ease over rough concrete expansion joints or dips in the road. If that ball that the travel trailer is hooked to is jerking up and down with the stiff suspension of the F550, the A frame is going to flex as it absorbs the shock and will eventually fail.

Hogwash. The entire trailer frame is simply going to rock on it's own springs. It isn't going to flex/stress or damage the A frame.

I had one trailer damage the front siding where the A-frame flexed. I had another trailer where the A-frame failed completely. A stiffer truck is absolutely harder on the part of the trailer chassis susceptible to the highest forces. I remember my Jayco voided the warranty if it was towed with a truck heavier than a 1-ton.

[Jay_Coe]

Hannibal wrote:


On a buckboard conrete interstate, you seriously can't tell the difference in ride between an F550 and your F150? You can't understand that the harsh ride of the F550 gets transmitted to the tongue of the trailer? We can't always predict the road's surface nor can we creep down the interstate to ease over rough concrete expansion joints or dips in the road. If that ball that the travel trailer is hooked to is jerking up and down with the stiff suspension of the F550, the A frame is going to flex as it absorbs the shock and will eventually fail.

Hogwash. The entire trailer frame is simply going to rock on it's own springs. It isn't going to flex/stress or damage the A frame.