ol' grouch wrote:RobertRyan wrote:Valhalla360 wrote:
My take: the driving force was likely the MPG and range of a small diesel not that the toyota was intrinsically more capable. Dodge just came out with thier small diesel for a 1/2 ton, so there were no comparable.
A big 1 ton, long bed 4 door is a lousy off road vehicle but makes a real nice tow vehilce which is much more relevant to this site
Actually would be very wrong, basically Toyota is extremely reliable, yes the small diesel is FE, it is more capable. That is why it sells roughly 650-700,000 Hiluxes outside NA, take out Europe generally as a market they sell very few Pickups there.
Dodge is now Ram and the basic payload is terrible for the VMotori 3litre diesel
Right US 1 tons are terrible Off Road, I/2 tons not much better
My 2001 Ram 2500 can handle 1 ton loads just fine as it has the heavy duty chassis. It's also been great off road for the last 5 years I've owned it. I don't really need roads, just areas without big trees. However, Chrysler Corp. did wimp the trucks out after 2002. My truck was also a commercial farm truck originally. I've also got a 1997 F-250 diesel witch rides like a Cadillac compared with the dodge. It also gets twice the fuel mileage.
These handle 1tonne (2,200lb) loads just fine, but they are vastly more capable Off Road, so I agree with Valhalla on that score.
From an Australian Road Test
RobertRyan wrote:valhalla360 wrote:RobertRyan wrote:
Vehicle of choice crossing the Artic and just recently the Antartic, which is colder
And it has absolutely nothing to do with a stock truck.
With the amount of work they put into it, you could take an old Yugo and do the same thing.
No. but they had the option of choosing a U.S. HD Pickup or the Hilux, Hilux won out easily for the expedition
Their version of an F350Why Not Use a Full-Size Pickup?
Grimsson said Arctic looked at larger trucks, but larger vehicles would need still bigger tires to get the flotation needed. Plus, trucks like the Ford F-150, which Arctic considered, don't come with a diesel engine. This creates a logistical problem since there are limited places to get gasoline.
Another factor working against newer vehicles is testing them at extreme temperatures. With a new Ford pickup, for example, Arctic would have to start with shorter routes that have support stations in case things break. These routes would also need air-support options to have parts delivered.
Finally, since Arctic has lots of experience with the Hilux it has a collection of spare parts to fix things on the go. Instead of going larger, Arctic created a 6x6 Hilux to handle Iceland's and Antarctica's challenging terrain and conditions.
Pickup Trucks .com Artic Trucks
My take: the driving force was likely the MPG and range of a small diesel not that the toyota was intrinsically more capable. Dodge just came out with thier small diesel for a 1/2 ton, so there were no comparable.
A big 1 ton, long bed 4 door is a lousy off road vehicle but makes a real nice tow vehilce which is much more relevant to this site.
valhalla360 wrote:RobertRyan wrote:
Vehicle of choice crossing the Artic and just recently the Antartic, which is colder
And it has absolutely nothing to do with a stock truck.
With the amount of work they put into it, you could take an old Yugo and do the same thing.
No. but they had the option of choosing a U.S. HD Pickup or the Hilux, Hilux won out easily for the expedition
Their version of an F350
Why Not Use a Full-Size Pickup?
Grimsson said Arctic looked at larger trucks, but larger vehicles would need still bigger tires to get the flotation needed. Plus, trucks like the Ford F-150, which Arctic considered, don't come with a diesel engine. This creates a logistical problem since there are limited places to get gasoline.
Another factor working against newer vehicles is testing them at extreme temperatures. With a new Ford pickup, for example, Arctic would have to start with shorter routes that have support stations in case things break. These routes would also need air-support options to have parts delivered.
Finally, since Arctic has lots of experience with the Hilux it has a collection of spare parts to fix things on the go. Instead of going larger, Arctic created a 6x6 Hilux to handle Iceland's and Antarctica's challenging terrain and conditions.
Pickup Trucks .com Artic Trucks
RobertRyan wrote:
Vehicle of choice crossing the Artic and just recently the Antartic, which is colder
And it has absolutely nothing to do with a stock truck.
With the amount of work they put into it, you could take an old Yugo and do the same thing.
My "old" 83 K20 Chevy that I bought new and still has the original paint. A Colorado truck which saw its fair share of winter roads. To be fair I am pretty meticulous with maintenance and spent as much time washing the underside as the top.
My mid 90's Honda Accord rusted out in the rear quarters quickly plus many electrical problems. It was my first and last Japanese vehicle.
My mid 90's Honda Accord rusted out in the rear quarters quickly plus many electrical problems. It was my first and last Japanese vehicle.
