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JMCC730248
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I am considering going to a pull behind,my knees are making it difficult for me to negotiate the steps inside my 5er;I am single,but desire comfort and quality,as close to 30 ft as practical;I know there are many to choose from,but need some advice as to the makes and models that may be compatible with my needs,Thanks;BTW,do not mind breaking my budget for this as I am considering full timing;
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06 jayco eagle 301rls,retired and loving it, TOM .............don,t look back something might be gaining on you..........
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hawkeye-08
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Explorer III
OP, your issue is exactly why we didn't get a 5th wheel to start with. We started with a bumper pull travel trailer, two steps in, worked great. We wanted more room, really liked the Arctic Fox 27T with rear living and ended up finding one (we buy used) in great shape. We love it, but it sits much higher than our old trailer and has three steps in. We feel the difference but when it is just us, we don't go in and out constantly like it seems we do when camping with a group. When it is just us, we cook mostly inside (grill outside). We either out for hours or inside.. last weekend, after getting all the foodstuffs out to cook and eat as a group, we were tired of the steps.

Not saying to avoid higher trailers, just be aware when looking that some are much higher than others.

myredracer
Explorer II
Explorer II
kerrlakeRoo wrote:
For better quality also take a look at grand design, and maybe even the K-Z Spree, Two year warranties and no full timing exclusions.
Sorry, but I would NOT include a KZ TT on a short list. I could write a book on all the issues we've had. On 4th season, still finding them. 😞 After having one, I don't think a 2 year warranty is such a big deal. Most things requiring a trip to the dealer happen within the first year, and that's *IF* the dealer has the capability to make correct repairs, if at all or will honor the warranty. In the beginning of the 2nd year, our KZ dealer said they would no longer do any warranty work claiming some LED lights I added voided the factory warranty. Total BS but anything that came up from that point on I fixed myself (and properly too) and wasn't worth going to the dealer anyway.

FWIW, KZ and Jayco are now both owned by Thor.

I understand OP's concern. Besides the brand/model of TT, a couple of things I would suggest are getting a set of Glowsteps from Torklift. Besides being a lot more stable, the riser of each step is 7" high, close to what you'd have in a house. The standard Lippert steel steps are 9" high per riser which is harder on the knees (and wouldn't comply with building code if in a home). We have the Glowsteps and they are great, but take a bit more effort to deploy. Extending the "landing gear" feet would probably be a challenge (when on uneven ground) but you could slide a piece of wood or a "lego" leveling block under a foot instead.

The other is getting a Stromberg Carlson "soft touch" grab handle at the entry door. These are 18" tall and make entering the door much easier. We had our KZ TT special ordered without the typical tiny grab handle so there'd be no holes through the fiberglass siding and then the dealer installed the soft touch handle for us. Don't get the other brand that is similar because the handle material is hard. Torklift also has a handrail but I'm not convinced a handrail would work that well.

In general terms, I'd do all the research you can and find a good quality TT and also a good dealer that will provide proper warranty coverage and has the ability to actually execute repairs properly. Not easy to define what a quality TT is as most can have issues of some kind. Last thing you want with arthritic hands is to be fixing things on an ongoing basis.

I would avoid any brand/model that has the type of frame made from 3 pieces of sheet steel welded together to form an I-beam ('nuf said). Jayco has a BAL frame that has almost no welds in it and would be an excellent choice. A few other brands use this frame (Lance is one) and you could call BAL/Norco and find out who they are.

I would pay close attention to functionality of a floor plan and also things like accessibility & efficiency of cabinets/closets and even little things like light switches. Having to reach up to the ceiling to a switch can be annoying. I added wall switches in our TT (with concealed wiring). Get a ceiling fan that has a remote like a Fantastic fan for same reason. If you are used to a FW being taller inside, some TTs are made with an arched ceiling. Make sure the sewer outlets and pull handles aren't in a hard to reach location like under a slide (Like ours, grrr.).

You might want to get a TT with 2 exterior entry doors and a floorplan that allows access to the bathroom with slide retracted and it possible, being able to walk from bedroom to the rear with the slide in.

rbpru
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Explorer II
My standard advise is to take your best guess at what you think you want and rent a similar unit for a couple of weeks.

See if you like the floor plan, towing, parking etc. before you spend the big bucks.
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jerem0621
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Explorer II
Airstream is a good choice as they are very low to the ground. Not only are there no steps inside but there should only be 1 or at the most 2 to get in.

Apex is also pretty low as is the Surveyor models. All have models around 30 ft.

Thanks!

Jeremiah
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kerrlakeRoo
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For better quality also take a look at grand design, and maybe even the K-Z Spree, Two year warranties and no full timing exclusions.

JMCC730248
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I appreciate your help;will definitely check out the ones mentioned
2016 Ford F250 Diesel short bed 6speed automatic
06 jayco eagle 301rls,retired and loving it, TOM .............don,t look back something might be gaining on you..........

TurnThePage
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Regardless, I don't think those Eagles come in sizes around 30 feet or less.
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drsteve
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afidel wrote:
Sandia Man wrote:
Well, if you already enjoy your Jayco their Eagle TTs are well built, well appointed, and as you know have a 2 year warranty. Some of their floor plans are very similar to their fifth wheels just on a single level deck. Other well appointed TTs to look at are Open Range Roamers (which carry a fully transferable 2 year warranty) and Grand Designs TTs have very livable floorplans as well. Most manufacturers produce a higher-end TT in their product lineup, I'm sure you will find something that closely mimics the floorplan you currently have if that is your desire.

Pretty sure 2 year warranty went away on all Jayco products a few months ago.


According to the website, Jayco's warranty is still 2 years.
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afidel
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Explorer II
Sandia Man wrote:
Well, if you already enjoy your Jayco their Eagle TTs are well built, well appointed, and as you know have a 2 year warranty. Some of their floor plans are very similar to their fifth wheels just on a single level deck. Other well appointed TTs to look at are Open Range Roamers (which carry a fully transferable 2 year warranty) and Grand Designs TTs have very livable floorplans as well. Most manufacturers produce a higher-end TT in their product lineup, I'm sure you will find something that closely mimics the floorplan you currently have if that is your desire.

Pretty sure 2 year warranty went away on all Jayco products a few months ago.
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normal_dave
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Ditto Outdoors RV, but you'll likely have to go out West and get one, from what I've read, lots of folks do.

Here's a nice layout, excellent build quality, four seasons, 31' hitch to ladder.
Outdoors RV Timber Ridge 25RDS

also PM sent...
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Sandia_Man
Explorer II
Explorer II
Well, if you already enjoy your Jayco their Eagle TTs are well built, well appointed, and as you know have a 2 year warranty. Some of their floor plans are very similar to their fifth wheels just on a single level deck. Other well appointed TTs to look at are Open Range Roamers (which carry a fully transferable 2 year warranty) and Grand Designs TTs have very livable floorplans as well. Most manufacturers produce a higher-end TT in their product lineup, I'm sure you will find something that closely mimics the floorplan you currently have if that is your desire.

TurnThePage
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OK, listen people. ALL RVs have steps to get in and out. They don't all have steps INSIDE. Pretty much just fivers. Give the person a break. If you spend your day inside, you can mosey front to back as much as you want without any steps to deal with in a trailer.

OP, my only suggestion would be based on my assumption that you already have a stout truck, so you don't have to limit yourself to lighter trailers. In that case I agree with the recommendation for Northwood and Outdoors RVs. Jayco Eagles might be an option, but I think most of those are pretty long. Highland Ridge makes at least one shorter model that looks roomy inside and should be comfortable.
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JMCC730248
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I am only asking for suggestions on makes and models;did not mean to open a can of worms concerning my knees and aging body
2016 Ford F250 Diesel short bed 6speed automatic
06 jayco eagle 301rls,retired and loving it, TOM .............don,t look back something might be gaining on you..........

Fireballsocal
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JMCC730248 wrote:
Thanks for the feedback,but you all are not answering my original question,which was seeking advice on makes and models,not my decision to move from a fiver to a travel trailer; sorry if I worded it in a confusing manner

I am confused also. The only reason you gave for wanting to switch from a fifth wheel to a bumper pull is your knees on the steps, but bumper pulls have 2-3 steps also. I don't think many people wanted to suggest a $30K plus trailer when you might run into the same problem. You will get no shortage of suggestions here from people trying their best to help you out. Perhaps explain the knee issue a bit more? I am assuming you don't mind the initial steps into the trailer but don't want to continue stepping up and down when moving around inside? I'd also assume then that slide outs with a step up aren't ideal.