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What else does your truck do?

burningman
Explorer II
Explorer II
Iโ€™ve always thought part of the reason to have a truck camper is because you already have a truck anyway.
From reading here Iโ€™ve gotten the impression a lot of people buy a truck to do nothing but carry a camper.
Is that really common? Seems like a heck of an expensive way to have an RV!

Question Two is about the olโ€™ hot topic, payload rating numbers.
I understand trucks very thoroughly, itโ€™s just a fundamental one; why is it that only camper hauling people are so concerned about payload sticker ratings, when it seems no one else is?
Hereโ€™s an example, one of my own pickups doing other work.
This is my Dodge dually with two 3000 pound sacks of 5/8-minus gravel in the back. On the scale the rear axle weighed right about 10,000 (that canopy is heavy too). That puts every tire below itโ€™s rating and theyโ€™re only 235/85-16s. The Dana 80 axle has an 11,000 rating by Dana, In fact, F450 Fords used to use the very same Dana 60 front/Dana 80 rear combo. This truck has done this for 20 years. I pulled the rear hubs and bearings recently to have a look, theyโ€™re the originals and are in fine shape.
If you look at the so-called ratings for a โ€˜99 Dodge 3500, it says it canโ€™t do this, yet it clearly can.
Where I work, one tons routinely haul this or more every day. I couid take lots of similar photos of others. Nobody using these trucks for work worries about it.




2017 Northern Lite 10-2 EX CD SE
99 Ram 4x4 Dually Cummins
A whole lot more fuel, a whole lot more boost.
4.10 gears, Gear Vendors overdrive, exhaust brake
Built auto, triple disc, billet shafts.
Kelderman Air Ride, Helwig sway bar.
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specta
Explorer
Explorer
My truck houses a world class car audio system. ๐Ÿ˜„
Kenny
1996 Jayco 376FB Eagle Series TT
1997 Jayco 246FB Eagle Series TT
1976 Ford F-250 4wd Mercury Marauder 410 - 4V
Regular cabs. The best looking trucks.

GAR2
Explorer
Explorer
Hereโ€™s a picture of my truck- above post , if this link works.

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In the market to buy a T/C
2002 F350 4wd CC DRW 8โ€™ box
Load Lifter 5000 rear air bags, front Timbrens
Rancho 9000 shocks
Brighton, Illinois

GAR2
Explorer
Explorer
I agree! Iโ€™m still a ways from retirement. I have two trucks, an old beater (02 F150 253,000 ml.) for hauling firewood, trips to lumberyard, quarry, etc. Last year I bought a super clean (02 F350 7.3L CC DRW 8โ€™ box) in anticipation of buying my first TC and then later a 5th wheel.

But even now- whatโ€™s my truck do? Keeps me busy!!!! But is turning out sweet:

Pulled Bed, replaced support channels
Dropped tank / hutch-Harpoon Mod
Added Load Lifter 5000 air bags on back
Pulled rear axles, new seals, new rotors, new calipers, new brake hoses, brake job
Pressure wash, wire brush, paint frame (POR-15)
Pull front axles (4WD)
New u-joints, New hub bearings, rebuild auto lock hubs, Timbrens on front
New brake calipers, hoses, brake job
Tuner with tow modes
Mishimoto A/T cooler, gauges (Pyro, AT temp, Boost, Fuel Pressure, Scan Gauge 2)
Built a custom front mount for snow plow & 17,500# winch (farm use)
Ahhh - the. $$$$$$$$$ tcost to go camping ?? Still better than the sticker shock of a new truck- Lol

Getting ready to build custom frame mounted hold downs.
Been looking at new Palominos like the HS 8801 so I can still pull my 18โ€™ fish & ski. Plan is to visit the dealer this Fall!
In the market to buy a T/C
2002 F350 4wd CC DRW 8โ€™ box
Load Lifter 5000 rear air bags, front Timbrens
Rancho 9000 shocks
Brighton, Illinois

emcvay
Explorer
Explorer


Maybe it's just that a lot of TC folks here are retired and no longer do all the things some do with their trucks (but likely still do some). My truck must pull a sawmill, boat, haul wood/lumber/garbage etc etc etc

A truck just makes sense when you 'do stuff'.
2019 F350 Lariat FX4 DRW PS6.7
2019 AF990

mountainkowboy
Explorer
Explorer
Red has been my DD for over 11 years, it hauls the TC, cords of wood, lumber, tows ANYTHING, and scares old ladies on the highway. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Chuck & Ruth with 4-legged Molly
2007 Tiffin Allegro 30DA
2011 Ford Ranger
1987 HD FLHTP

Bedlam
Moderator
Moderator
My truck was purpose bought to carry my camper while towing my trailer. I did not want a larger Super C and did want 4wd with a high tow rating.

Host Mammoth 11.5 on Ram 5500 HD

deserteagle56
Explorer II
Explorer II
The Dodge/Cummins in my signature is wearing the camper right now - but that camper comes off quick and easy when the truck is needed for other tasks...



1996 Bigfoot 2500 9.5 on a 2004 Dodge/Cummins dually

happy2rv
Explorer
Explorer
burningman wrote:
Iโ€™ve always thought part of the reason to have a truck camper is because you already have a truck anyway.
From reading here Iโ€™ve gotten the impression a lot of people buy a truck to do nothing but carry a camper.
Is that really common? Seems like a heck of an expensive way to have an RV!


Everyone has their own reasons. I would tend to agree, from my perspective, with your line of thought. Barring what I would call fringe cases like the extreme 4x4 RV, personally I would think if you only used the truck for the camper, one could do better with a class C both for cost and layout. I've never owned a truck camper and likely never will. But everyone sees things from a different perspective. I'm not sure, again barring special circumstances, how common it is to buy a truck just to mount a truck camper.

burningman wrote:
Question Two is about the olโ€™ hot topic, payload rating numbers.... itโ€™s just a fundamental one; why is it that only camper hauling people are so concerned about payload sticker ratings, when it seems no one else is?


I think the operative word here is seems. It's an essential characteristic of towing and much of the forums is devoted to towing. If you finnd a forum unrelated to RVs focused on towing, you will likely see lots of discussion regarding payloads and tow ratings. If you go to rent a trailer from U-Haul, they will definitely ask you what vehicle you are towing with and will refuse to rent to you if your vehicle isn't "up to the task".

As to why it seems others aren't concerned in every day life, if you've spent much time on the forums, as it appears from the question you have, you're no doubt aware that many of the posters here don't really consider ratings to mean much. Many get away with driving grossly overloaded vehicles every day. Some don't. I won't tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do with respect to weight ratings. I will say it's a bad day when you don't get away with it. Not "getting away" with it can mean anything from getting a ticket to causing a fatal accident. I'm not at all suggesting that 1, 100, or even 1000 pounds over weight will necessarily lead to loss of control or any other specific consequences. I will say that there is a point of overload that will lead to those consequences and I don't have the data or skill set to determine what that point of overload is.

burningman wrote:
What else does your truck do?

Getting back to the central question of your topic. I've owned several pickups. Only the most recent was bought with any thought of towing. All but my first pickup, including my current one, have been my daily drivers. To me, that's one of the advantages of trailer vs motor home. The investment in the pickup is something I use every day. Will the pickup have a shorter life than a motor home? Probably, but again I use it every day. Our motor home sat in the driveway around 9-10 months out of the year, unfortunately. My truck definitely doesn't. As for what do I use it for that I couldn't use a car or SUV for, that's a different question. I do my own handy work / repairs / projects. I use the truck with some regularity to haul wood/supplies, but 90% of the time I could get by with a car or SUV. After my last truck, I owned an SUV for several years and I missed my truck.
2018 Forrest River Salem Hemisphere 282RK - 2017 RAM 1500 TV

Previous RVs and TOADS
2004 Fleetwood Bounder 32W on WH W20
2000 Four Winds 5000 21RB
1986 27' Allegro
TOADS
2005 Ford Ranger XLT 2WD
2004 Suzuki Aerio
1988 Chevrolet Sprint

specta
Explorer
Explorer
My 2500 HD goes up and down the freeway totally empty 99% of the time.

I bought it to carry a camper and its my only vehicle. I average about 30,000 miles/yr.
Kenny
1996 Jayco 376FB Eagle Series TT
1997 Jayco 246FB Eagle Series TT
1976 Ford F-250 4wd Mercury Marauder 410 - 4V
Regular cabs. The best looking trucks.

Chris_Bryant
Explorer II
Explorer II
HadEnough wrote:

Iโ€™m surprise no one has asked this yet. Why do you have a 45 kW generator in that thing? LOL

Heading down to slab city and looking to sell power to people? Little side business? Unofficial campground?


Worked for a small circus, the genset ran the lighting. It was set sideways with another door on the other side. Had an industrial Ford 300 straight six.

Also had gypsie boxes for the 10-12 RVs to plug into at night.

Finally went to a Ford cube van with a 460. Way nicer to drive, lol.
-- Chris Bryant

NEOK
Explorer
Explorer
I've used our truck as a second vehicle to haul everything from our boat to groceries and construction materials while building a new house. It is also used to carry our truck camper.
neok
2009 GMC 25000HD Short Bed 6.0 Gas Engine Crew Cab SLT 4x4
2008 Bigfoot 15C9.5FS
Torklift Talons, Fastguns, Stableload Quick Disconnects, Superhitch & SuperTruss

jimh406
Explorer III
Explorer III
Carries lumber like this picture (all of the wood for a larger ground level deck), but now also carries firewood. Goes to the dump. Moved a lot of furniture including pulling a trailer for a lot of trips. Going to pick up a couple of cords later today, one in the truck and one in the utility trailer.


'10 Ford F-450, 6.4, 4.30, 4x4, 14,500 GVWR, '06 Host Rainer 950 DS, Torklift Talon tiedowns, Glow Steps, and Fastguns. Bilstein 4600s, Firestone Bags, Toyo M655 Gs, Curt front hitch, Energy Suspension bump stops.

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HadEnough
Explorer
Explorer
Chris Bryant wrote:
My truck had a 45kw Onan in the back, along with 4 follow spotlights. Early 80s 350, 165 hp. I totaled 19,500 lbs, about 5,000 lbs over gcvw.




Iโ€™m surprise no one has asked this yet. Why do you have a 45 kW generator in that thing? LOL

Heading down to slab city and looking to sell power to people? Little side business? Unofficial campground?

Kayteg1
Explorer II
Explorer II
Off-roading has lot of discussion here, but as was already pointed, no matter how lifted 4WD you will have with no matter how small TC - you will not go rock climbing.
For me if I can go into forest roads with 10% grade, I will be happy and Sprinter vans will do that just fine.
Worse come to worse - I can always mount front winch on the van.
You can buy Sprinter 4x4 too, but be ready for sticker shock.