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Why is the Hemi Going Away

FishOnOne
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So here's the official reason why Stellantis is ditching the Hemi. To add injury to insult the Hemi is a cash cow for Tesla.

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rjstractor
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Reisander wrote:

Ok. But can’t Stellantis just make some cars that generate the same compliance credits and buy them from themselves? Electric cars are the number one selling cars in the world. Wouldn’t it make sense for Stellantis to make some and get the credits?


That's exactly why the Hemi is going away- to help increase the CAFE numbers so that Stellantis (or whomever owns Chrysler this week) doesn't have to pay for the carbon credits. It will be interesting to see if Tesla continues to be profitable after they are no longer selling carbon credits. I imagine they will, since they were able to leverage the profits from selling the credits to accelerate R&D of models like the Y.

I kind of agree with StonedPanther on the general silliness of compliance credits- nothing but an environmental shell game. Kind of like destroying a wetland area but "creating" another wetland 50 miles away to make up for it.
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Reisender
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StonedPanther wrote:
Reisender wrote:
Electric cars are the number one selling cars in the world.


What? In 2022 EV sales worldwide made up @ 14% of all car sales. In the US that number was somewhere a little north of 7%. Buying compliance credits from themselves makes no economic sense whatsoever One could argue that compliance credits in general make no sense whatsoever, no matter who is buying or selling them or mandating them to begin with.


Sure. But the number one selling car is electric. Not gas. The Tesla model Y dethroned the Toyota Corolla as the number one selling car this year. The rest is just production. As production ramp up. That takes time.

I can’t figure out the compliance credits either. I just don’t understand why they would buy them from another company when they could just generate their own by making electric vehicles. Weird.

StonedPanther
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Explorer III
Reisender wrote:
Electric cars are the number one selling cars in the world.


What? In 2022 EV sales worldwide made up @ 14% of all car sales. In the US that number was somewhere a little north of 7%. Buying compliance credits from themselves makes no economic sense whatsoever One could argue that compliance credits in general make no sense whatsoever, no matter who is buying or selling them or mandating them to begin with.

Reisender
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StonedPanther wrote:
Reisender wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
So here's the official reason why Stellantis is ditching the Hemi. To add injury to insult the Hemi is a cash cow for Tesla.

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I’m not up on this stuff. How does it become a cash cow for Tesla?


Because evidently the OP thinks Stellantis and others are going to pay big bucks to Tesla to buy their compliance credits that have to do with CAFE standards, but in actuality Corporations like Stellantis would rather just pony up and use it as a profit and loss write off.


Ok. But can’t Stellantis just make some cars that generate the same compliance credits and buy them from themselves? Electric cars are the number one selling cars in the world. Wouldn’t it make sense for Stellantis to make some and get the credits?

StonedPanther
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Reisender wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
So here's the official reason why Stellantis is ditching the Hemi. To add injury to insult the Hemi is a cash cow for Tesla.

***Link Removed***

***Link Removed***


I’m not up on this stuff. How does it become a cash cow for Tesla?


Because evidently the OP thinks Stellantis and others are going to pay big bucks to Tesla to buy their compliance credits that have to do with CAFE standards, but in actuality Corporations like Stellantis would rather just pony up and use it as a profit and loss write off.

Reisender
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Nomad
FishOnOne wrote:
So here's the official reason why Stellantis is ditching the Hemi. To add injury to insult the Hemi is a cash cow for Tesla.

Link

Link 2


I’m not up on this stuff. How does it become a cash cow for Tesla?

Best hemi I ever drove was a buddys 68 Coronet RT with a dual quad 426 4 stick. What a machine! Wind it up, sidestep the clutch and hang on!

Ok, I admit, the same friends 300 series SRT8 was pretty impressive too. And his current ride, a Durango Hellcat is quite the beast too!
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NamMedevac_70
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They are jumping around acting like stupid monkeys that seem usual these days on youtube and for that group type (immature grownups). I am enjoying my V8 hemi in my Dodge Ram 1500 and glad I got mine. May even buy another before the end if possible.

I have read on many forums about the overheating of the V6 or inline 6 Eco boost when doing hard work aka towing of heavy loads so I will stay with V8 with another brand if possible as the eco boost no match for V8 hemi. Still have two older Dodge magnum V8 1500s as backup and for dirty work in the rough. They run great with good power. Life is good fishing, camping, hiking and

BB_TX
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Nomad
I hate those videos to the point I will not watch them. If you have similar inclinations here is an article on the subject you can read.

https://pickuptrucktalk.com/2022/08/ram-1500-5-7l-v-8-hemi-days-numbered-as-dodge-declares-end-of-v-...

M_R_E_
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I heard it's being replaced with an inline 6 turbo.
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