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67avion
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Without going into too much painful detail, we had a mishap several week-ends ago. While working with sand bag crews on the Mississippi River, the truck and camper fell into the flood waters as a road collapsed. Because of a number of issues dealing with the wrecker truck, we had to release the camper as the truck was reeled up over the bank. The good news is that the truck is as good as new after a thorough rinsing, inspection of brakes, etc. The bad news is that the camper was thoroughly drowned. A lot of people had far worse trouble than we did, so we consider ourselves lucky. The floods are ongoing as I write.

Our planned trip to Montana in June is called off. heh.

However, I have now convinced my dear Jane that its time to really update the TC. After drying for several days we pulled out the interior. Amazingly the Zolatone paint that I had applied last year is good as new after a cleaning.



Without burdening the TC family overmuch, I'd like to ask some advice other than don't park too near a flood :-).

My DW was overjoyed that I had a plan for the bathroom: a composting toilet developed by Nature's Head http://www.natureshead.net/. Our holding tank was practically unusable and there was no real grey water tank on the 67 Avion. Our plan is to rip out the bathroom and install one of these and converting the blackwater to a greywater tank. Any experience with this?

Finally, the roof. I admit that I have not really done the work I should have. Now, I need to remove the various sealants on the roof and repair it. We are also setting up for a solar installation. Any advice as to this?



Here's hoping I have posted the pictures correctly. And many thanks in advance for your advice.
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Photog101
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rfuerst911sc wrote:
How about stainless steel ? Seems like it would be perfect, easily cleaned and holds up to most chemicals/foods that's why it is used in restaurants. Put down a plywood base and then glue down the stainless. Not sure what to do for the front edge maybe wood ?


See if you can find a metal fabrication shop that will use a metal brake on the stainless and have them bend over the front lip to cover the wood.
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1997 Veri Lite RL1200 on a '02, K3500, CC, DRW, 8.1L, Allison, 4.1 gears, Bridgestone 225/70R19.5 tires.
'12 C2500, EC, 6.6L Duramax
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rfuerst911sc
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How about stainless steel ? Seems like it would be perfect, easily cleaned and holds up to most chemicals/foods that's why it is used in restaurants. Put down a plywood base and then glue down the stainless. Not sure what to do for the front edge maybe wood ?

Avion_C-11
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Man I'd love to se those Corian counters! Got any pics?

I did some work on the underside of the bunk today. It's ready to polish now. Also the right wing ready to polish.
Happy Camping!

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sabconsulting
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Wow, I've just been looking at the polishing you guys have been doing - not sure I would have the patience for that, but it looks fantastic - well done.

Steve.
'07 Ford Ranger XLT Supercab diesel + '91 Shadow Cruiser - Sky Cruiser 1
'98 Jeep TJ 4.0
'15 Ford Fiesta ST
'09 Fiat Panda 1.2

ticki2
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Photog101 wrote:
My uncle had a 1957 or 58 Airstream. He bought it new and kept it until he passed in the mid 90's. Sometime during the 80's, the outer metal started looking pretty worse for wear. I towed it to a truck wash and they cleaned the aluminum with a chemical that is used on aluminum truck parts (tanks, bumpers, wheels, etc). It gave it a flat finish but it was bright again. We laid on a heavy coat of wax and then he would re-wax it every year after that and it looked great.

Just another thought on how to brighten up an Avion.



I have used the aluminum cleaner that comes with my pressure washer and cleaned up the skin very nicely . I dilute it 5 to 1 with water , rinse thoroughly .
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed

ticki2
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Garry , I would be careful with aluminum as a counter top . Most aluminum is not very chemical resistant , think vinegar , seafood spills, etc . I stained up an alum table with lobster water .
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed

garryk6
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I have been contemplating using aluminum plating for my counter tops, since it is relatively light, sturdy, durable. I have the equipment to work with aluminum, and on the Island it is definitely easier to come by than other materials. Our one lumber store carries limited selection of anything, and most things are ordered in, and as such get expensive. I try to time my purchase with trips to Anchorage on the ferry, but those are only a few times per year...

Our temp ones have worked well for the one trip (1/4" plywood) but are difficult to keep clean, and are susceptible to spills damaging the wood. We use plastic cutting boards for cutting, so that helps. Here on the island they do sell a thin (about 1/4") teflon/plastic material that is used for large cutting areas for fish cleaning (we area fishing town) that is really light, and could go over the plywood, but I know that it would not be as sturdy as the aluminum plating. The aluminum plating would also be nice since I can have it bent on the front edge down for a covering lip, and if I want I could weld a back splash to the back edge that would follow the curvature of the Avions curves. These are just a few of the ideas that have been going through my brain through this long cold winter...
I'll try to take some pics today of the mountains of snow in my yard and the neighborhood.
Take care, Garry
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper

67avion
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We picked up the Corian countertops for the Avion yesterday. They look beautiful. I can't wait to finish up the wiring so that we can install them. Because we need a relatively small amount of Corian I was able to piece the counter tops from the remainder bin at our local shop. Its a bit of a chore to find pieces that can be cut to fit, especially pieces that are attractive. But it can be done. Our costs for the cooking area counter top, as well as the front counter next to the couch was around $500 including all of the millwork.

I have read about some people's concerns about weight with Corian. They are certainly far heavier than the tops they replace, so that may a problem in your installation. We found that they added around 60 pounds or so. I felt it was well within our weight range.

We have not been working as hard on the camper this past several months, but plan to gear up yet again in the near future. I'll post photos of the counter tops when they are iinstalled.

rfuerst911sc
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garryk6 wrote:
Seeing all the work to de-anodize and polish an Avion, I am liking the dull silver more and more...:W

When we stop having snow and freezing temps, I hope to be able to just give my C-10 a good cleaning,and hopefully a good waxing.

But while the cold temps are here, I am looking at what I can do in the warmer areas inside. I need to decide on a counter top material, and now that my newer 3 burner cook top is here, I can start re-making my kitchen area with some minor tweaks. THe maiden voyage/shakedown run last Thanksgiving helped show us some pros and cons to our initial design. So we are planning some adjustments before our summer trip in June. I also hope to get some Aluminum for the rear pan, and start working out that piece of "art". As with everything on an Avion, each piece is a "work-of-art". Just some come out like mona-lisa and some come out like crayon...

Garry in the Frozen north (10F as I type and over 4 ft of snow since the first of the year...


I'll be watching to see what you use for the countertop as mine needs total replacement. Plastic laminate is cheap and relatively easy for the DIYer but I kinda like the idea of using Corian or material like that. I'm a long ways away from doing the replacement but curious what others use.

Photog101
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My uncle had a 1957 or 58 Airstream. He bought it new and kept it until he passed in the mid 90's. Sometime during the 80's, the outer metal started looking pretty worse for wear. I towed it to a truck wash and they cleaned the aluminum with a chemical that is used on aluminum truck parts (tanks, bumpers, wheels, etc). It gave it a flat finish but it was bright again. We laid on a heavy coat of wax and then he would re-wax it every year after that and it looked great.

Just another thought on how to brighten up an Avion.
Combat Vietnam Veteran Support our troops for serving our great country.
1997 Veri Lite RL1200 on a '02, K3500, CC, DRW, 8.1L, Allison, 4.1 gears, Bridgestone 225/70R19.5 tires.
'12 C2500, EC, 6.6L Duramax
A couple of older 5th wheels housing homeless vets.

garryk6
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Seeing all the work to de-anodize and polish an Avion, I am liking the dull silver more and more...:W

When we stop having snow and freezing temps, I hope to be able to just give my C-10 a good cleaning,and hopefully a good waxing.

But while the cold temps are here, I am looking at what I can do in the warmer areas inside. I need to decide on a counter top material, and now that my newer 3 burner cook top is here, I can start re-making my kitchen area with some minor tweaks. THe maiden voyage/shakedown run last Thanksgiving helped show us some pros and cons to our initial design. So we are planning some adjustments before our summer trip in June. I also hope to get some Aluminum for the rear pan, and start working out that piece of "art". As with everything on an Avion, each piece is a "work-of-art". Just some come out like mona-lisa and some come out like crayon...

Garry in the Frozen north (10F as I type and over 4 ft of snow since the first of the year...
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper

Avion_C-11
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The Polishing Grind Continues.

Over the last week/end we have made what is apparently little progress. We have come up against the difficult task of deanodizing and polishing the underside of the bunk, wings and tub. It seems as if water and condensation stream down the camper to collect on the undersides of the wings and cabover where it sits, and stays, and slowly evaporates leaving behind a calcified series of tiny little stalactite type bumps that are extremely difficult to remove. Oven cleaner doesnโ€™t do it. Toonbrite doesnโ€™t do it.

We have come up with a process that works finally. First, we sand the area with 300 grit, then we deanodize what anodizing is left, third we Toonbrite and lastly polish. Well we havenโ€™t actually polished much yet in that area as it has taken a while to figure out how to deal with the problem.

We have polished the right corner of the cabover, the front of the tub under the cab window.

Even though we have not made much progress this week I think we have the process down now and thinks will pick up again next week.

Because it had been sitting since the last deanodizing session and it rained a lot I first had to clean up the areas to be polished before starting.


It takes about an hour of polishing to do the front side of that corner.


I cant wait to get a whole endcap finished!


After we finish the tub and under the bunk I will lower the stand so we don't have to do this.


This pic shows the front of the tub polished. We had to go back and deanodize some more so you see some whitish areas in places that we did not have time to go back and repolish.
Happy Camping!

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merc25
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Thanks for the feedback fellas. @Avion C-11, nice work massaging out that crease. That's encouraging. Look forward to seeing it polished up. I got in touch with Cayo Repairs. They still offer replacement panels made from E (electro) Coat aluminum. $93.00 ea. Helpful chap.

ticki2
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67avion wrote:
I wonder if anyone has explored replacement windows for the Avion? I have in mind tinted, double glazed windows. I have run across windows that interested me from Dometic, but I can't find a source in the US.


This place may help here

I'm not sure I'm convinced of the longevity of thermopane in a camper . I know Airstreams have had trouble with them . They also loose their seal in houses regularly . When they are good they are good , when they are not they are not . It would make an interesting survey with folks that have them .
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed

garryk6
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merc25 wrote:
Well!!! I have now read this entire thread and I just want to tip my hat to you guys and thank you for the wealth of information, pics and the benefit of your experience. I stumbled into this forum because I have an offer on a '66 C10. My primary concern is with body repair. My C10 would have a pretty good crease front curbside cabover, affecting 4 or 5 curved panels. I have been unable to contact Cayo Repair (I just get a generic answering machine). I will try again but what I need to know is if they still offer replacement panels. Think I recall someone posting otherwise. I'm not convinced I could get a satisfactory result just hammering them out. Can anyone help?
Thanks again for making the effort in sharing your experiences.


Well welcome to the Avion part of RV.net's TC world!! I spoke with Cayo when I bought my C-10 about a year ago to help determine what year it was. Turns out it is a 66. CAyo told mev that it is too expensive for him to order and keep in stock anodized aluminum, so he would still make new aluminum panels for people, but they would either be painted to closely match the anodized look, or if a person bought the anodized aluminum, shipped it to Cayo RV, then they would make the desired panels.
This information was accurate back in the April/May time frame of 2011. With the Economy, I don't kn ow if that is still the case. Otherwise you can do what many here have done and just straighten the best you can. The only drawback there, is that means basically a complete tear-down, to remove all the interior panels, remove the insulation in the area of the dents, then straighten, reapply the insulation, then re install the interior. It is a big project, as you can see the work that 69Cayo (Dennis) has done to his C-11. But the good news there, is that you will know exactly the condition of your entire Camper after you are done. And I you wnat to add any lights, wiring or change things around, it is much easier knowing where everything is, and that it is done right.

Hope this Helps,
Garry In Kodiak, AK

(Yesterday had to sweep over a foot of snow off the top of the TC and the Class C MH that will be sold in the spring hopefully...)
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper