โSep-14-2014 05:16 AM
โMar-22-2015 06:37 PM
soren wrote:JaxDad wrote:
Mind you yet another franchise told me they were going to have to charge for installing a battery (sold as "includes installation") because the battery wasn't under the hood.
Find a ten or fifteen year old Passat, or New Style Beetle, or even a Dodge Intrepid. Now spend a while finding the battery under the wiper motor, or under the back seat, or in the front wheel well, behind the fog lights. Now decide if you want to spend 30 minutes to an hour swapping a battery out for free?
โMar-22-2015 05:13 PM
โMar-22-2015 01:48 PM
BFL13 wrote:
When did it become law that the tires have to be rated "to carry the weight of the axle" using the axle's weight "rating" as stated above?
Our truck has a rear axle rated at over 10,000 lbs. But the RGAWR is 6,084 lbs, which is what the two E tires can take at 80psi as singles.
BFL13 wrote:
Our truck has a rear axle rated at over 10,000 lbs.
โMar-22-2015 12:35 PM
BFL13 wrote:
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Anyway we are getting off-topic from the OP and just "talking trucks" now ๐
โMar-22-2015 12:31 PM
spud1957 wrote:BFL13 wrote:spud1957 wrote:
I'd love for you to show me your vehicle weight rating label that states your truck's rear axle is rated at 10,000lbs. That label is all TC cares about. Otherwise I'll stick to the 6084.:)
The tires have the lowest weight rating so they set the label's GAWR.
Not necessarily true. My OEM 18" tires are rated at 3420lbs but I still have a 6100lb rating per my label. It's a weird rating system. What it ends up is a tire retailer will not install tires that have a lower rating that's on the "official" axle rating label.
โMar-22-2015 12:14 PM
BFL13 wrote:spud1957 wrote:
I'd love for you to show me your vehicle weight rating label that states your truck's rear axle is rated at 10,000lbs. That label is all TC cares about. Otherwise I'll stick to the 6084.:)
The tires have the lowest weight rating so they set the label's GAWR.
โMar-22-2015 11:51 AM
spud1957 wrote:
I'd love for you to show me your vehicle weight rating label that states your truck's rear axle is rated at 10,000lbs. That label is all TC cares about. Otherwise I'll stick to the 6084.:)
โMar-22-2015 11:34 AM
โMar-22-2015 11:12 AM
spud1957 wrote:BFL13 wrote:PrivatePilot wrote:
Gary, read the entire thread. If Canadian Tire ..........
The only legal requirement is that the tires are capable of carrying the weight for the application they are being used for, AKA they must be rated to carry the weight the axle they're to be attached to is rated for. In my case the tires are each rated for just under 2700 pounds each and are mounted on an axle rated to carry less than that, therefore they are well within their legal required ratings.
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When did it become law that the tires have to be rated "to carry the weight of the axle" using the axle's weight "rating" as stated above?
It is true that the tires have to carry the load put on them, but that has nothing to do with the axle rating. In fact the GAWR can be based on the tires max load limit while the axle is rated to carry much more.
When you go on the scales and get your "axle weight" that is to get the load on the tires. Nothing to do with "axle weight rating"
Our truck has a rear axle rated at over 10,000 lbs. But the RGAWR is 6,084 lbs, which is what the two E tires can take at 80psi as singles.
Meanwhile our trailer has a pair of 5,200 lb axles but its GAWR is 8,600 lbs, which is max for four C tires at 50 lbs.
If I put stronger tires on the vehicle it would not change its legal GAWR. There are other components involved such as the springs. GVWR also involves the frame strength and I think, the stopping the brakes can do. If you modify your truck AFAIK you can go through a process to get its weight ratings legally changed, but otherwise its legal ratings stay the same.
BFL13, not sure if this is what you are disputing but this is taken from Transport Canada's CMVS110 definitions:
GAWR: Gross Axle Weight Rating, in kilograms, means the value specified by the vehicle manufacturer as the
load-carrying capacity of a single axle system, as measured at the tire-ground interfaces. โThe GAWR shall not
exceed the rated load carrying capacity of, but not limited to, the tires, rims, suspension, axle mounting hardware
and axles.โ
So it looks like it says, the axle rating cannot be greater than the tire's rating (among other components). Not sure if you meant to say your rear axle is rated for 10,000lbs or did you mean to say GVWR? You have a 3/4 ton so your rear axle is rated at 6084. From a Transport Canada perspective, your rear axle is rated at 6084 by GM, per your door label. So your tires' load capacity has to be equal or greater than 6084.
โMar-22-2015 10:12 AM
BFL13 wrote:PrivatePilot wrote:
Gary, read the entire thread. If Canadian Tire ..........
The only legal requirement is that the tires are capable of carrying the weight for the application they are being used for, AKA they must be rated to carry the weight the axle they're to be attached to is rated for. In my case the tires are each rated for just under 2700 pounds each and are mounted on an axle rated to carry less than that, therefore they are well within their legal required ratings.
...........
When did it become law that the tires have to be rated "to carry the weight of the axle" using the axle's weight "rating" as stated above?
It is true that the tires have to carry the load put on them, but that has nothing to do with the axle rating. In fact the GAWR can be based on the tires max load limit while the axle is rated to carry much more.
When you go on the scales and get your "axle weight" that is to get the load on the tires. Nothing to do with "axle weight rating"
Our truck has a rear axle rated at over 10,000 lbs. But the RGAWR is 6,084 lbs, which is what the two E tires can take at 80psi as singles.
Meanwhile our trailer has a pair of 5,200 lb axles but its GAWR is 8,600 lbs, which is max for four C tires at 50 lbs.
If I put stronger tires on the vehicle it would not change its legal GAWR. There are other components involved such as the springs. GVWR also involves the frame strength and I think, the stopping the brakes can do. If you modify your truck AFAIK you can go through a process to get its weight ratings legally changed, but otherwise its legal ratings stay the same.
โMar-22-2015 09:16 AM
PrivatePilot wrote:
Gary, read the entire thread. If Canadian Tire ..........
The only legal requirement is that the tires are capable of carrying the weight for the application they are being used for, AKA they must be rated to carry the weight the axle they're to be attached to is rated for. In my case the tires are each rated for just under 2700 pounds each and are mounted on an axle rated to carry less than that, therefore they are well within their legal required ratings.
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โMar-22-2015 08:51 AM
โMar-22-2015 07:51 AM
JaxDad wrote:
Mind you yet another franchise told me they were going to have to charge for installing a battery (sold as "includes installation") because the battery wasn't under the hood.
โMar-22-2015 05:06 AM
shum02 wrote:PrivatePilot wrote:
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FWIW I also discovered last week that Canadian Tire franchises charge different amounts for tire balancing - most I called were around $17 per tire, the store in Bowmanville Ontario told me that "it depends on how much weight is needed, it starts at ~$17 but can go up if your tire needs a lot of weight to balance". Huh?
Seriously?! 1st I've heard of that. Really......how much does a few chunks of tire weights cost that they would charge for it?????
Will have to look at my receipt but I'm pretty sure I paid less than that per tire for mounting and balancing at the Burlington store. Like I said, they do a decent job here doing mounting and balancing.